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'The Hobbit' premiere: Peter Jackson's fantasy epic is eye-popping (FIRST REVIEW)
New York Daily News ^ | Thursday, November 29, 2012, 7:47 PM | Ethan Sacks

Posted on 12/02/2012 10:56:54 AM PST by Eurotwit

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To: kearnyirish2

You make Faramir sound less comfortable with a sword and comfortable with a Swiffer and an apron.

I know when they do movies, because they have timetables, deadlines, and budgets, they will start with mockups of costumes and characters to see if what is in the book will work on screen. They generally only make changes when it’s not coming across well. I know for a fact that Peter Jackson told the actors that they had to play the parts straight and there would be no room for any sardonic attitudes, if the parts called for being emotionally vulnerable to each other.

His main characteristic was incorruptibility and I thought they captured it. He held the ring and had no temptation to put it on. They probably changed his personality to account for the fact that he was a warrior-prince and wasn’t his habit to cry into his souffle. :P


81 posted on 12/02/2012 8:56:51 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: kearnyirish2

If you think of it this way, Peter Jackson and New Line laying everything on the line to get this film made. They spent upwards of a billion dollars to make it, with the risk that it could very well fail, because most fantasy movies are not particularly big office draw.

The last thing they would want to do is produce a movie that would piss off fanboys. Everything they field in these movies was with intent to strike a balance between the fanboys, but keep it attractive enough to also draw in the general movie audience, especially women.

I think overall, because there is usually no way, outside of using cardboard cutouts with balloons drawn with exact dialogue, they succeeded.


82 posted on 12/02/2012 9:16:12 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jonty30

bttt


83 posted on 12/02/2012 9:17:33 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: BenLurkin

Well, OK. Tetralogy.


84 posted on 12/02/2012 10:31:54 PM PST by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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To: Jonty30
I'd like to know - what happened to the pukel-men?

Didn't see any pukel-men in the movie.

85 posted on 12/03/2012 2:43:44 AM PST by FroggyTheGremlim (2012 elections: American Coup d'etat!)
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To: Jonty30

“His main characteristic was incorruptibility and I thought they captured it. He held the ring and had no temptation to put it on.”

He tried to bring it back to his father (as Boromir had), rather than see it for the danger that it was. In the book he didn’t waver, and that distinction was important. He was supposed to be of the race of men who hadn’t yet been “lessened”.


86 posted on 12/03/2012 3:47:35 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Lancey Howard
King Kong was one of the most visually beautiful, effects perfect movies I ever saw....
....the story SUCKED!!!! Big time.

this bit of gay(pedophile?) friendly, PC tripe that celebrated 1930 metrosexual sissies and feminist fervor was NOT the King Kong I grew up with. A true shame....I would love for someone with a pair, to get all the raw footage and remake this turkey into a film with a strong adventure story line to compliment the visually brilliant cinematography that Jackson made.

87 posted on 12/16/2012 7:52:05 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Eurotwit

I saw it on Friday. There are some great scenes. The opening scenes all the way to the Ettenmoors is probably the uniformly best part of the film. The Riddle and Bilbo’s escape from the Misty Mountains is also well-handled.

But Jackson again takes liberties to unnecessarily invent; juxtaposes jarring, modern vernacular phrasing with Tolkien’s measured and careful prose; and turns every 30 second scene in another film into a bloated, extended sequence in this.

From the time the party of Dwarves (and Bilbo) leave Rivendell, it’s almost one extended fight/chase through the mountains until they are rescued by the Eagles.

It’s like a short stack of pancakes smothered with a full bottle of maple syrup. syrup.


88 posted on 12/16/2012 7:47:55 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: yarddog
The cartoon version was actually very good. My little daughter really liked sting. I had a Gerber Mark II knife and she would call it “sting”. It did actually look a bit like that small sword.

Jackson's movie reminded me how much the old Rankin-Bass cartoon managed to fit into just 77 minutes. And how very well it did it, too.

89 posted on 12/16/2012 7:55:25 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: NELSON111
Call me a downer, I guess.

I loved the original novel. I love the Rankin-Bass cartoon. I even enjoyed the BBC radio-play—as hard as it was to understand at times. (The second half of the play is very powerful. Sobering, even.)

I think there are some fines scenes in the new one, but no one knows how to go on, and on...and on... the way Peter Jackson does.
90 posted on 12/16/2012 8:03:07 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Popman
I also love the end of King Kong when he falls off the empire state building and hits the ground...still in one piece, no blood, no splatter, and the pavement is unbroken...

I loved the scene where Kong slides across the lake in Central Park without breaking the ice. (Of course, Kong's dainty frame would never have broken it!)

91 posted on 12/16/2012 8:09:26 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: little jeremiah

McKellan’s Gandalf and Bernard Hill’s King Theoden rose head and shoulders above the material they were given in the film.

Theoden’s speech to the Rohirrim before the Battle of Pellenor fields was made all the better for an idea Hill pitched to Jackson months before it was filmed: as he gave the speech, riding down the line of troopers, he touches his spear to all the other Riders of the front rank. THAT was a kingly gesture. Viggo’s speech to the Men of the West didn’t come close. But I forgive him because he had such a hard act to follow.

From an interview with Bernard Hill:

“...Two main areas. One was the ‘tkatkatkatka’ [extends his arm as if holding a sword and makes the sound of the sword touching each of the Rohirrim’s weapons]. That was all my idea - which terrified me. That came out of a visit to the Weta workshop in the first week. I saw all the spears and weapons and stuff like that; and for some reason I thought of Pelennor Fields y’know, like you do [chuckles] and I thought of a kid going down the railings with a stick hmmm the king touching everybody’s spear it might be a Rohan tradition that kind of thing. I was thinking in those kind of terms; that the king gives his spirit and sword to them, that he goes into their spirit somehow through the spear, and we’re all in this together. This is it, we’re all going to die, but you’ve got the king’s spirit in you. That kind of stuff...”


92 posted on 12/16/2012 8:30:10 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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