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2012-13 bowl schedule
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Posted on 12/03/2012 10:47:10 AM PST by Perdogg

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To: Theoria

How is LSU/Clemson a repeat?


51 posted on 12/03/2012 11:53:33 AM PST by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: MHGinTN

I could care less what the SEC does it is all the others. Point being, had Kent State won they would have possibly gone to a bowl over a much better range of teams. NIU really? If every conference would do it and forward their best 2-4 teams, ok. That will do away with a lot of out of conference rivalries but too bad. Until then I watch the games I watch for enjoyment and put no stock in a number 1 ranking. It is meaningless.

It would also prevent stacking from one conference. Would pro football be ok if all the team in the play-off be from one division example NFC east of AFC north? You either win or runner up in your conference or don’t go. If you don’t like it or you have too many teams go to another conference or independent. Allow only 4 or less independent teams into bracket (dependent on bracket size).


52 posted on 12/03/2012 11:54:22 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: saleman
And Northern Illinois is the champ of....what?

The MAC, which is probably pretty level with the ACC in terms of football.

53 posted on 12/03/2012 11:55:45 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Yeah, my mistake I was thinking of LSU vs. Oregon, or even vs. West Va.


54 posted on 12/03/2012 11:58:08 AM PST by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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To: dfwgator

Bama’s gonna beat Notre Dame, mark it down. Not to disrespect Notre Dame. They are well coached but they are too one-demesional on offence and a few athletes short on defense. Their time may come but it’s not now..

There are several teams that I think Bama would have more trouble winning another championship against than Notre Dame. One being Georgia. Oregon. Florida. South Carolina. Texas A@M.

But, I’m sure it’s going to be a good game. I hope not but it prolly will. I don’t know that my heart can take another one like Sat night!


55 posted on 12/03/2012 11:58:20 AM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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To: saleman

I expect it to be fairly low-scoring.....Bama doesn’t quite have the game-breakers on offense they’ve had over the past few years.....I think ND can slow down their running game. But I don’t know if ND will be able to score that much on Bama’s defense, even though they showed some vulnerabilities against UGA.....I predict 16-10, Bama.


56 posted on 12/03/2012 12:00:40 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Ingtar

“How is LSU/Clemson a repeat?”

Hell, it is a repeat of that 1996 game, silly!
(don’t stop him. He’s on a roll)


57 posted on 12/03/2012 12:01:20 PM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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To: saleman

Alabama will be fighting Notre Dame and at least one crooked official working to throw the game ... follow the money.


58 posted on 12/03/2012 12:01:46 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN
what put OSU on probation?

Ohio State coach Jim Tressel lied and allowed ineligible players to compete by failing to report that they had sold OSU-issued memorabilia to a tattoo-parlor owner. Classy.

This was a stupid violation of stupid rules.

59 posted on 12/03/2012 12:02:01 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: dfwgator

That sounds pretty close to what I was thinking. But if Bama starts fast and gets some turnovers it could get ugly.


60 posted on 12/03/2012 12:03:00 PM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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To: FatherofFive

Thanks ... had completely forgotten that story!


61 posted on 12/03/2012 12:04:24 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Remole

The Big 10 stinks this year. Penn St. and OSU are on probation and the B10 match ups are mostly with the SEC.

I wish the Pac12 had matched up with the SEC and I think the P12 would have delivered a beat down. The P12 has a lot of teams that feature a decent QB, decent team speed and physical linemen.

The pac12 teams have to aspire to not let Oregon and Stanford embarass them. That means you have to have a decent QB, speed for Oregon, and physicality for Stanford.

The SEC has a lot of teams that do not have a QB or are slow. The SEC is physical top to bottom.

Cal Bears were one of the worst teams in the Pac12 (3-9, 2-7) but played OSU pretty even in Columbus. The bears had a decent QB, decent speed and decent size.

I think OSU in the pac12 this year, would have lost a bunch of games and I think Wisconsin is going down in the rose bowl too.


62 posted on 12/03/2012 12:05:39 PM PST by staytrue
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To: MHGinTN
Any of the top four SEC teams would beat Notre Dame convincingly this year.

I think ND is better than an overrated LSU and South Carolina. ND does get stomped by AL, underrated Texas AM, and Georgia, but probably plays FL pretty even.

I would like to see Pac12 vs. SEC. The Pac12 has a lot of speedy physical teams like Oregon St. UCLA, Stanford, and Oregon is pretty good too.

63 posted on 12/03/2012 12:11:51 PM PST by staytrue
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To: SVTCobra03

The rules of the BCS mandated Northern Illinois get the slot. This is the same rule that Boise State could never get the stars to align correctly for. You can thank Wisconsin, I believe.


64 posted on 12/03/2012 12:11:51 PM PST by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: Theoria
I was hoping for a WVU-Pitt game....oh well.
65 posted on 12/03/2012 12:11:59 PM PST by Roccus
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To: staytrue

“Overrated” LSU won when they traveled to “underrated” Texas A&M this year. They lost to Alabama by trying to use a prevent defense with too much time remaining.


66 posted on 12/03/2012 12:23:29 PM PST by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: dfwgator

There were really only 2 decent conferences this year, SEC and Pac12. The Big10 had OSU and Penn St. on probation and the rest of the league is not very good anyway. The Big East is an embarassment. The ACC has one decent team. The Big 12 has one decent team in KState.

To be a decent team, you need size and speed and a decent QB. I think the Pac12 is pretty speedy, decently sized and has the best lineup of QBs.

But guess what, in the bowls, I don’t think there is a single Pac12 vs. SEC match up.

I am looking for the P12, SEC to go a combined 14-1 or something like that in the bowls. The only close games I see for the two conferences is Oregon might lose to KState and Vandy might lose to NC State.


67 posted on 12/03/2012 12:26:38 PM PST by staytrue
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To: Perdogg

One factor that leads to bad bowl match-ups is the ridiculous conference tie-ins. They hamstring any flexibility in getting a good match-up. I’ll be a very happy guy if the concept of the 4 Super Conferences comes to fruition. 4 conferences of 16 teams 2 divisions of 8 within the conference. These 4 conferences would then create a NCAA “Premiere League” and the remaining teams can combine with the good FCS schools and create the next tier. The 64 top teams would be required to only play within the 64 team league. No cupcake opponents looking for a payday. An 8 or 16 team playoff could then be formatted and the bowls would be sent to the ash heap of history they so richly deserve.


68 posted on 12/03/2012 12:28:06 PM PST by wrcase
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To: KarlInOhio

>What happened to the old days when bowl games were named after obscure citrus fruits?<

Corporate sponsors had to pick up the naming rights or they all would have been named ‘High Fructose Corn Syrup’ bowls.


69 posted on 12/03/2012 12:31:38 PM PST by highnoon (Where do I sign up for all the free stuff??)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

After 2 and 10 last year and 3 straight egg Bowl loses to Ms State this is like the BCS crown for Ole Miss.


70 posted on 12/03/2012 12:32:02 PM PST by WKB ( Remember "Bush Lied and People Died" Now it's "People died and Obama Lied")
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To: Ingtar

My idea of a good football team is big, fast guys with a talented QB. LSU falls short in the talented QB area. To my eye, and to my bias, the QB situation makes LSU look bad to me. And to my eye and biases, the AM Qb makes his team look very good and better than LSU.


71 posted on 12/03/2012 12:33:23 PM PST by staytrue
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To: Resolute Conservative
I am really at a loss as to why a playoff is "necessary".

Back before the BCS days, there was arguing all winter long about who shoulda won the votes, who was jobbed and wound up as #3, but you know what?

No one got hurt by it.

The schools and the bowls still made money, the best players got their shot at pro tryouts, just like now. I was fine with it and I think lots of other fans were, too.

Besides, there is no playoff system I am aware of that will eliminate the real curse of Division I ball - the cupcake games scheduled to pad the W-L record.

72 posted on 12/03/2012 12:40:51 PM PST by Notary Sojac (Only liberals believe that people can be made virtuous via legislative enactment.)
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To: righttackle44

OU is going down in the Cotton Bowl!!!

Gig ‘Em Aggies and Go Johnny Football!!!!


73 posted on 12/03/2012 12:40:54 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: Ingtar

An ‘if’ or ‘but’ was the difference in anyone of the other top six SEC teams from winning the conference, What if Florida didn’t turn over the ball 6 times against UGA? What if Lattimore didn’t get hurt for Carolina? What if LSU didn’t play prevent against Bama? What if A&M could have hung on after their fast starts against UF and LSU? What if UGA spiked the ball before running the last play against Bama?


74 posted on 12/03/2012 12:42:01 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Perdogg

I was hoping for a Michigan vs. SDSU matchup in the Beef O’ Brady Hoke Bowl.


75 posted on 12/03/2012 12:42:01 PM PST by GSWarrior (Click HERE to read entire tagline.)
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To: staytrue
There were really only 2 decent conferences this year, SEC and Pac12

There is a reason they play the games.......Oklahoma and Boise State being a prime example.

76 posted on 12/03/2012 12:43:48 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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To: staytrue

I’m an Aggie, and I think LSU and A&M are fairly evenly matched. I think it just depends whose having a good day.

Of course, I think A&M’s kicker did lose that game along with the Florida game.

I also think our defense is a little weak.


77 posted on 12/03/2012 12:48:36 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: dfwgator

In my post season analysis, I have to give Florida kudos. They had a 4-1 record against the other 11 teams in the top 12 of the BCS.

I am scratching my head at how losing to an unranked NC State team is tremendously worse than losing to an unranked Baylor.


78 posted on 12/03/2012 12:51:17 PM PST by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: MHGinTN

I would love to see A&M play Stanford. I think A&M is better than Stanford, yet Stanford is ranked higher.

Oh well, I’m glad we’re playing OU. It will be one of the better bowl games!!


79 posted on 12/03/2012 12:51:17 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom

The Cotton Bowl is better than any of the other BCS games, outside of the title game....I thought there was a movement to add the Cotton Bowl as an official BCS Bowl Game.


80 posted on 12/03/2012 12:54:54 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Perdogg
The head coach at Vanderbilt voted Notre Dame 4th and Kansas State 11th. Interesting.
81 posted on 12/03/2012 1:08:02 PM PST by ConservativeStatement (Having an abortion is "progressive"?)
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To: luckystarmom

Stanford had the advantage of an extra win. By the logic they used for FSU’s loss, however, Stanford should be down near FSU in the rankings, or FSU should be up where they are.


82 posted on 12/03/2012 1:15:56 PM PST by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: Perdogg

Only 9 SEC teams? hehehe...


83 posted on 12/03/2012 1:16:59 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: luckystarmom

I would want a P12 SEC bowl showdown series.

Stanford vs. Alabama
Oregon vs. Georgia
Oregon St. vs. Florida
UCLA vs. LSU
USC vs. Texas AM

And frankly, Northern IL, Louisville, and Wisconsin have no business in the BCS bowls.


84 posted on 12/03/2012 1:22:17 PM PST by staytrue
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To: Ingtar

Stanford has the much better schedule than FSU.

Stanford played 13 games, 10 games were against teams in a post season bowl, one loss was at ND on a questionable call, and one win was on the road at Oregon and they also beat a 9-2 UCLA team twice to end the season.

Fl ST. played games against 5 teams going to a bowl.


85 posted on 12/03/2012 1:36:55 PM PST by staytrue
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To: Perdogg

Wouldn’t it be easier to just have one bowl game between the two teams who weren’t selected for a bowl game?


86 posted on 12/03/2012 1:39:18 PM PST by GnL
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To: Ingtar
The rules of the BCS mandated Northern Illinois get the slot. This is the same rule that Boise State could never get the stars to align correctly for. You can thank Wisconsin, I believe.

Umm, nope! You can thank the Ohio State University for violating NCAA rules and former OSU coach Jim Tressel for not reporting it to the NCAA & lying about it which caused OSU's probation, bowl ban & removal from the BCS ranking system.

You can also thank the Penn State University leadership for hiding & lying about former Asst. Coach Jerry Sandusky's pedophilic adventures on the Penn St. campus. This cost Penn State a probation, bowl ban & removal from the BCS ranking system.

Perhaps you can even thank the University of Nebraska for their matador rushing defense, but I think Wisconsin would have obliterated any SEC team (and most NFL teams) with the offensive game plan and execution they exhibited on Saturday night.

NIU earned their BCS spot by going undefeated in MAC conference play - which is better quality than Big LEast conference play and about on par with ACC conference play.

87 posted on 12/03/2012 1:50:38 PM PST by Sideshow Bob
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To: Roccus
I was hoping for a WVU-Pitt game....oh well.

The Backyard Brawl in somebody else's backyard.

Pitt BTW lost to Oregon State 3-0 in the 2008 Sun Bowl. The most excruciating football game I have ever had to watch.


88 posted on 12/03/2012 2:04:08 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Ingtar
The rules of the BCS mandated Northern Illinois get the slot. This is the same rule that Boise State could never get the stars to align correctly for. You can thank Wisconsin, I believe.

Actually, you should thank the University of Arkansas for abandoning the old Southwest Conference for the SEC. That single event upset the balance of college football conferences across the country and led to all of the current bad ideas in college football - the demise of the Southwest Conference, conference expansion, conference realignments, conference division alignments, conference championship games, the start of the BCS system, the modification of the flawed BCS, its replacement with an even worse BCS system, the end of most conference bowl alignments, famine and plagues, fire from the skies, cats and dogs living together, etc.

Suhey Pig indeed!

89 posted on 12/03/2012 2:05:24 PM PST by Sideshow Bob
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Pitt BTW lost to Oregon State 3-0 in the 2008 Sun Bowl. The most excruciating football game I have ever had to watch.

Don't you mean the 2nd most excruciating game behind last year's 9-6 Alabama-LSU "thriller?"

90 posted on 12/03/2012 2:12:43 PM PST by Sideshow Bob
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To: Sideshow Bob

No, that would be last years’ UF-FSU game.


91 posted on 12/03/2012 2:14:16 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: SVTCobra03

This surprised me too.

What did it was the human polls, not the computers. Usually the less prestigious teams (Boise State in ‘08, Miami of Ohio in ‘03), the computer rating is higher than the human poll rating.

Also NIU’s win over Kent State vaulted them 6 slots in the polls. That’s quite a rise for a fairly evenly matched opponent. (21st vs. 17th going into the game).


92 posted on 12/03/2012 5:21:53 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: dfwgator

Alabama is a early 9 point favorite over Notre Dame.


93 posted on 12/04/2012 3:20:00 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: KarlInOhio

The Kumquat Bowl? ;-)


94 posted on 12/04/2012 7:49:39 AM PST by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Boomer..... Sooner! :-P


95 posted on 12/04/2012 7:50:40 AM PST by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: righttackle44; FatherofFive; Resolute Conservative

The OU - A&M game is terrible for me! One of our sons graduated from OU and the other from A&M. Argghhhhhhh!


96 posted on 12/04/2012 7:59:24 AM PST by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Living in the burnt orange area I am a closet A&M fan but I have no loyalty issue on the 4th.


97 posted on 12/04/2012 8:04:04 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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