Posted on 12/03/2012 10:52:28 PM PST by Cronos
..a study led by Indian and Estonian academics, including Dr Toomas Kivisild of Cambridge University, has confirmed their origins in the Indian sub-continent, and even identified the location and social background from which they emerged.
..The study, which was published this month in the journal Nature, examined Y chromosomes in DNA samples to compare the genetic signatures of European Roma men with those of thousands of Indians from throughout the sub-continent.
Scientists from Hyderabad's Centre for Cellular and Molecular Biology collaborated with colleagues in Estonia and Switzerland to compare more than 10,000 samples, including from members of 214 different Indian ethnic groups. They were analysed to match a South Asian Y chromosome type known as "haplogroup H1a1a-M82", which passes down male bloodlines, with samples from Roma men in Europe.
While there were matches with samples from men throughout the Indian sub-continent, the closest match and the least genetic variation occurred with those from north-west India.
When the researchers overlaid the closest matches onto a genetic map of India, the highest density was in areas dominated by India's "doma", "scheduled tribes and castes" – the low caste dalits or untouchables who suffer widespread and generational discrimination and usually do society's dirtiest jobs.
The researchers believe the descendants of today's Roma gypsies in Europe began their westward exodus first to fight in wars in what is today Punjab between 1001 and 1026 on the promise of a promotion in caste status.
Later, they left to flee the fall of Hindu kingdoms in what is today Pakistan, with many setting off from near Gilgit.
The exodus to North Africa and Europe suggested they may have been early refugees from the spread of Islam into the Indian sub-continent. ...
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
Are the untouchables the ones with a cork in the bullet hole in their forehead?
Well, I'll guess I'll have to be more supportive and understanding of gypsies, now.
No good ever comes out of...Gilgit!
“I cannot abide, Quiretes, a Rome of Greeks ; and yet what fraction of our dregs comes from Greece ? The Syrian Orontes has long since poured into the Tiber ...”
- Juvenal, Satire III, circa 120 AD
Pull up “why we ear islam 1400 year” on youtube for an excellent lecture on the fall of rome and islam’s spread.
Hmmm hitler loved the isamists, the gypsies came to europe because they fled islam, then thousand years later hitler had they gypsies killed.....
Another chain link to link hitler and islam, the gypsies and their sufffering at the hands of both
What is interesting is that the Nazi “scientists” had to acknowledge that the gypsies were Aryans. Yet they still subjected them to a hell probably worse than that given to Jews.
Over here!
DNA does get around. For example a black tribe in South Africa was discovered to be from the Hebrew priestly tribe in Yemen; Macedonian Greeks and later Romans likely lived, and their descent might still live in China; DNA and art associated with ancient Japan has been found in a single Indian tribe in New Mexico, but not in any others; and an extinct Indian tribe in southern Florida has connections to tribes in South America, but nowhere in between.
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Untouchable? My dear, I'd go Klingon on that sh*t.
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Pretty good book.
The Zuni Enigma : A Native American People's Possible Japanese Connection
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