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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 49 DECEMBER 7, 2012
Free Republic | 12/07/2012 | greeneyes

Posted on 12/07/2012 11:18:15 AM PST by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread ... there is no telling where it will go and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: agriculture; food; gardening; hobby
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Today is the anniversary of the day that will live in enfamy. I want to take the time to thank all Freepers who are vetrans or on active duty. A special prayer for all of you and your families. Best wishes to all.

It's a cloudy day here in Missouri, but the weather is mild going to a high of 58 and low of 48 tonight. We have had sunshine and balmy days for most of the week, and I took the row covers off to let the plants breath a little more, but also to harveset the bounty.

A little lettuce and lots of Rosemary, Stevia, Lavendar, Parsley, Carrots, and a snip of tarragon. Still eating on falls tomato pickings-all are various shades of red-no green ones left.

The green bells are blooming like crazy, and already have 9 peppers of various sizes developing. My lemon tree has almost 20 little pea sized buds, but I may pinch back some of those.

I planted some more spinach and lettuce this week, but it hasn't sprouted yet. Hope the weather in your location is great and you are enjoying your gardening activities. Best Wishes, and God Bless.

1 posted on 12/07/2012 11:18:26 AM PST by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; ...

Pinging the List.


2 posted on 12/07/2012 11:25:27 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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3 posted on 12/07/2012 11:26:06 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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Pinging the List.


4 posted on 12/07/2012 11:27:18 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

We still have lettuce, turnips and turnip greens in the garden; some spinach in the gutter garden on the side of the garage. (So far, I’m not excited about the gutter garden; it’s messy, soil is of necessity shallow and production is low. It’s husband’s project, so I don’t want to hurt his feelings.) - If a person can just raise a little lettuce and a few tomatoes, they’re ahead of the game; tomato growing season has been over for us for a while.


5 posted on 12/07/2012 11:27:24 AM PST by Twinkie (The WICKED walk on every side when EVIL men are exalted. Psalm 12:8)
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To: greeneyes; Jim Robinson

I am awful. I snort disparagingly everytime I see this ridiculous post/thread.

How exactly, what should maybe be a letter to the grandchildren (under nine years old) becomes a regular post on FR, eating up band width, I’m so sure I don’t know.

I recommend posting in Junior Scholastic.

Sorry. I now feel better for getting this off my chest.


6 posted on 12/07/2012 11:53:29 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: RitaOK; greeneyes

“I snort disparagingly everytime I see this ridiculous post/thread”

And yet you click on it each and every time?


7 posted on 12/07/2012 12:12:44 PM PST by momtothree
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To: greeneyes
Good for you. I wish we were so fortunate! Everything here is dead except the parsley and sage in the flower boxes, and a lovely little thyme plant that is sitting on the kitchen table. Even the basil plant I brought in died, but I never have any luck with trying to overwinter basil.

The bamboo we planted along the driveway a few years ago is doing very well.

8 posted on 12/07/2012 12:22:39 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: greeneyes

Isn’t stevia the plant that can be used as a sugar substitute? If so, do you dry it and grind it up or simply add as a green?


9 posted on 12/07/2012 12:30:32 PM PST by momtothree
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To: RitaOK; Jim Robinson
I am awful. I snort disparagingly everytime I see this ridiculous post/thread.

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I agree with your first sentence, you are awful, but there are around 500 Freepers on the Garden Ping List, and I just recently took over posting the thread from Red Devil, so I can't really tell you how it all started.

Frankly, I recommend that you just ignore the thread, it must have been awful holding back all these years, but I am glad you feel better.

It appears that your response to stress is to spread it around and denigrate others who are enjoying a little discussion about growing their own food.

I prefer to spread a little cheer, so you have a great day and God Bless you and your family. May the Lord grant you tolerance to forbear all the many trials and tribulations that obviously come your way frequently.

10 posted on 12/07/2012 12:32:14 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Bless her little heart!


11 posted on 12/07/2012 12:34:47 PM PST by momtothree
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To: Twinkie; All

Sorry for the triple ping-I only hit the button once I swear. I also missed some typos before posting-distracted by a sick grand daughter. LOL.

Enjoy the lettuce and turnips.


12 posted on 12/07/2012 12:36:04 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Twinkie

What is a “gutter garden”?


13 posted on 12/07/2012 12:39:40 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: RitaOK

Ridiculous? Really? Then why open this thread? There are many of us that enjoy gardening, and enjoy this thread- if you don’t then BYE


14 posted on 12/07/2012 12:44:52 PM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: greeneyes
Self-sufficiency/independence is one of the lynchpins of conservative ideology...being able to provide for your family has its roots in Scripture. People who are unable to grow their own food may find themselves in a very tight spot in the coming years...

Carry on.

15 posted on 12/07/2012 12:50:05 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: RitaOK

The Garden thread predates your date of joining and claims many regular participants. Have you ever heard of “When in Rome...?” At least tolerate those who do.


16 posted on 12/07/2012 12:52:43 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: RitaOK

The Garden thread predates your date of joining and claims many regular participants. Have you ever heard of “When in Rome...?” At least tolerate those who do.


17 posted on 12/07/2012 12:52:43 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: greeneyes

Decent weather, all considered.

14 of my 18 germinated apricot seeds have pushed through the surface, and are putting out their first leaves.


18 posted on 12/07/2012 12:54:25 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: who knows what evil?
Here it is...

"But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel." 1 Timothy 5:8

G-d has provided us with seed...get those orders in. :-)

19 posted on 12/07/2012 12:56:53 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: trisham
I have heard that bamboo is vigorous. I planted some basil seed in a little 5 inch pot in January of 2010. Set it outside during the growing season.

I harvested leaves all summer, brought it in and it has grown like gangbusters in and outdoors ever since. It has even been knocked off ledges and put back in the pot. It still survives.

Just harvested a bunch for #1 daughter when she was here cooking tomato sauce for lasagna. It is the geneovese(?spelling?) variety. I potted it in Mels mix and give it a dose of dynagrow once in a while, and have to give it just a little water daily cause it is so big and the pot is so small.

20 posted on 12/07/2012 1:02:27 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

‘posed to freeze here next week Monday and Tuesday...
I guess my Bell’s and Jalapeno’s will be done...

I had a free range ‘mater pop up about 6 weeks ago I may put a bucket on it since it has had a couple blooms stick...I doubt I can nurse it through the Winter tho.

My Neighbor with the tiller is moving I’m gonna have to come up with a tiller...unnnggghhh.


21 posted on 12/07/2012 1:07:07 PM PST by Rightly Biased (Avenge me Girls AVENEGE ME!!!! ( I don't have any son's))
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To: greeneyes

It is vigorous, and is also evergreen. I ordered it online and it is excellent. I just wish that I had made a note of the company name, because I wouldn’t mind getting more of it. Next spring I’m going to try to either dig up part of one of the plants, or try to grow a cutting. It’s beautiful.


22 posted on 12/07/2012 1:07:16 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: greeneyes

Greeneyes, will you add me to your ping list, please? Thanks.

I’ve got 12 cabbages growing in the winter garden, along with about 200 garlic cloves, about half of which have sprouted. This is near Raleigh, NC.

In the space between the barn and a wall I’ve got a few arugula plants and some spinach.

In a month or so I’ll start some broccoli indoors.


23 posted on 12/07/2012 1:07:48 PM PST by steerpike100
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To: momtothree

Yes, Stevia is the natural sweetner. I just use the dried leaves in with the dried tea leaves when I make tea. I have a little book, though that tells how to make a green powder and has some recipes.

It also gives hints for growing it. It is supposed to be perennial in zones 5-6, so this is the first year I am trying it in the outdoors garden.

Thanks for your support with the disgruntled poster, by the way.


24 posted on 12/07/2012 1:10:16 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Tammy8

Thanks for your support.


25 posted on 12/07/2012 1:11:47 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: RitaOK

Yours is the first flame post, lame as it was, that I’ve ever seen in the WGT.

You should be proud.


26 posted on 12/07/2012 1:12:39 PM PST by Augie
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To: momtothree; greeneyes

Stevia is great stuff. Mrs. Augie uses it in her tea and has been experimenting with it as a sugar substitute for baking.


27 posted on 12/07/2012 1:15:12 PM PST by Augie
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To: Rightly Biased

Just switch to no till. It is easier.LOL

I nursed some tomatoes and peppers through some short term freezes with row covers and straw, but you are correct about long term in the winter. Best to dig them up and bring them in.

Tomatoes won’t set fruit below a certain temperature,IIRC it may be 50 degrees.


28 posted on 12/07/2012 1:16:16 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
It's currently 79°F in the Hill Country, and I've been busy covering all my sensitive plants (radish, peppers, tomato, papaya, pineapple) and moving the potted plants indoors or in protected area's. Yesterdays weather forecast a temperature drop to 26°F by Tuesday. I still need to buy some more covers for the loquat trees.
The freeze will kill off the last of the okra, and hopefully make the peanuts easier to harvest.
29 posted on 12/07/2012 1:18:54 PM PST by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: steerpike100

You have been added. Welcome to our little thread. Glad to have an addition after the snorting complaint that we are too “junior” to be allowed any bandwith.


30 posted on 12/07/2012 1:19:04 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Nothing growing up here in Michigan except my Egyptian walking onions. They’ll have green shoots all through the winter. Those of you unfamiliar just google it. They root incredibly deep and stay alive all through the winter. I always have green onions and the older ones get almost as large as leeks. In the summer they form clove heads at the top that can be used for propagation or peeled and used like shallots. They do spread like crazy and have given away many clumps over the years.


31 posted on 12/07/2012 1:22:32 PM PST by MomwithHope (Buy and read Ameritopia by Mark Levin!)
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To: who knows what evil?; afraidfortherepublic

Thanks for your support!


32 posted on 12/07/2012 1:29:43 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Augie; Biggirl
Yours is the first flame post, lame as it was, that I’ve ever seen in the WGT.

LOL...I've been around from 'square one', and I believe you might be right. Wonder if 'biggirl' has one of those blenders she can spare for a trophy?

33 posted on 12/07/2012 1:34:04 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: greeneyes

Hey, Greeneyes...pay no attention to the person behind the curtain...
I love this thread, read it when I can even though I’m a horrible gardener...
Keep up the good work!


34 posted on 12/07/2012 1:34:24 PM PST by matginzac
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To: who knows what evil?
Self-sufficiency/independence is one of the lynchpins of conservative ideology...being able to provide for your family has its roots in Scripture. People who are unable to grow their own food may find themselves in a very tight spot in the coming years...

Carry on.

Dittoes to that.

35 posted on 12/07/2012 1:36:02 PM PST by painter (Obamahood,"Steal from the working people and give to the worthless.")
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To: who knows what evil?

Thanks for the quote, keep it handy in case we need it.LOL


36 posted on 12/07/2012 1:38:38 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

While the local non-gardening liberals and marxists will be ordering Domino’s tonight; my wife and I will be enjoying home-made pizza featuring sauce made from (OMG) home-grown tomatoes from the garden...there’s ten bucks in our pocket for bills or whatever. :-)


37 posted on 12/07/2012 1:39:14 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Augie

Thanks for the support-I really was a bit incredulous that someone could get so worked up over a little harmless chit chat.

Stevia is something I am experimenting with too. I wanted to grow my own, because so much of what is in the stores is mixed with sucrose, dextrose, or one of the ose’s.LOL


38 posted on 12/07/2012 1:43:26 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: who knows what evil?

Not to mention, a product that is much more nutritious and so much better in taste! Nothing beats home-grown herbs and vegetables!


39 posted on 12/07/2012 1:45:16 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: steerpike100
In a month or so I’ll start some broccoli indoors.

Thanks for the reminder! Broccoli and cauliflower...

40 posted on 12/07/2012 1:45:59 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Sarajevo

Are your tomatoes and peppers in pots?


41 posted on 12/07/2012 1:47:51 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: trisham
Not to mention, a product that is much more nutritious and so much better in taste! Nothing beats home-grown herbs and vegetables!

Not to mention a food item that isn't going to be handled by/exposed to other people before I eat it...creepy; if you think about it.

42 posted on 12/07/2012 1:48:54 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: MomwithHope

Sounds like a good type of onion to have, and very versatile.


43 posted on 12/07/2012 1:50:07 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: who knows what evil?
Not to mention a food item that isn't going to be handled by/exposed to other people before I eat it...creepy; if you think about it.

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That's a good point. I didn't even think of it, but anything that is touched by human hands can carry disease, which supports the idea of washing any fruits and vegetables gotten from the grocery store or farm stand.

When we grow our own, we also know what is in the soil, and whether or not pesticides or chemicals were used.

44 posted on 12/07/2012 1:55:55 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: matginzac

Thanks for your support. Just keep working at it. I used to joke about having a brown thumb, cause all my house plants died.

Then I discovered this thread, square foot gardening, and Mel’s mix. Even I the famed “Doom the Bloom” gal had more successes than failures. Who Knew??????

I really enjoy having some homegrown fresh from the garden all year round now. Keep in touch.


45 posted on 12/07/2012 2:00:11 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: trisham

Who may have coughed on the ‘fresh produce’ in the store or at the market? It’s ‘flu season’, after all...


46 posted on 12/07/2012 2:05:17 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

While the local non-gardening liberals and marxists will be ordering Domino’s tonight; my wife and I will be enjoying home-made pizza featuring sauce made from (OMG) home-grown tomatoes from the garden...there’s ten bucks in our pocket for bills or whatever. :-)

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That Ten dollars could also buy a handy dandy sterno stove. It folds up kinda small, and easy peasy. Perfect for the backpack or emergency coffee when the electricity goes out, which is kinda often here where we live, or 5 or 6 silver war nickles, or........fill in the blank.LOL.


47 posted on 12/07/2012 2:05:39 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes; All

Thank you for maintaining this thread. I know how much it means to all of us to have this resource, inspiration, and gardening community here on FR.


48 posted on 12/07/2012 2:06:27 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

That’s exactly why I wanted to start gardening. That way I know if pesticides have been used or not(not in my case), and I don’t have to worry about E-coli on fresh spinach.

Now, I have expanded to actually become a little more self-sufficient, and it helps on the grocery bill too.

It’s all good!


49 posted on 12/07/2012 2:09:22 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: trisham

Thank you for the kind words!


50 posted on 12/07/2012 2:11:37 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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