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A billion here, a billion there. Who's pissing on who?
1 posted on 12/07/2012 3:59:03 PM PST by ExxonPatrolUs
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Most likely it would be cheaper to give them all the schools property and start over.


2 posted on 12/07/2012 4:02:08 PM PST by riverrunner
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Lockyer is poring through a database collected by the Los Angeles Times of school districts that have recently used capital appreciation bonds.

Yeah, sure he is. I bet he's as good at financial management as he is at wife management.

California, lol.

3 posted on 12/07/2012 4:05:35 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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They went to one of those Payday Loan stores and did this bond?

lol

People need to see the fine print before they vote to pass bonds


4 posted on 12/07/2012 4:08:47 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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Instead, CABs allow districts to defer payments well into the future — by which time lots of interest has accrued.

Note that it doesn't say "requires districts" ...

5 posted on 12/07/2012 4:10:27 PM PST by NonValueAdded (If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, you've likely misread the situation.)
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I call BS on these numbers. Unless there were derivatives involved I can’t see how these could compound so much.


6 posted on 12/07/2012 4:11:01 PM PST by bt-99 ("Get off my Lawn")
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Sloppy reporting. No mention is made about the interest rate and only a couple indefinite references to the length A ten times payout 30 years later would be just under 8%. If it is 40 years it would be just under 6%. Depending on when these were issued, like around 1980, those could have been great rates.


7 posted on 12/07/2012 4:13:51 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Big Bird is a brood parasite: laid in our nest 43 years ago and we are still feeding him.)
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The people running these schools (and the whole country) are just stupid. BLINDLY stupid. They want to pretend that they had nothing to do with this. These school districts have attorneys who review bond proposals, don’t they? These things get debated and all that by the school board don’t they?

They couldn’t be bothered to look at the fine print? These people are the cream of the crop?

Bonds... lets pass it and find out whats in it!

Of course they blame the terms of the bonds, they can’t admit they were blithering stupid. If these people had any honor they would resign en masse and beg forgiveness of the local-district taxpayers.

They probably highlighted that bond as a reason to be re-elected didn’t they? Now, it’s not their fault - someone else did it. The issue they likely praised to get elected will now be the “we was robbed” issue to run for election next time.


8 posted on 12/07/2012 4:17:00 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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Well if I were a lender I’d want pretty high interest rates to lend to a California political entity too. There is no telling whether those commies will ever pay their debts. What was it Lenin once said... “for the loans you gave us, we forgive you”.


11 posted on 12/07/2012 4:20:47 PM PST by SeeSharp
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"Poway has done nothing different than every other district in the state of California," Collins told the program.

Now, when I used that excuse, my mom bitchslapped me.

12 posted on 12/07/2012 4:21:04 PM PST by aimhigh
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What makes this so funny is that the “educators” took a loan that defies common sense. I guess that only shows how “smart” the educators are.


13 posted on 12/07/2012 4:25:46 PM PST by fini
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They talk like the 2.5m was to get 25m for free, while if you read correctly its 2.5m for a federally subsidized loan of 25m?

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Teacher’s unions weren’t the prime finance source for these bonds.


14 posted on 12/07/2012 4:32:10 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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There is no way, no way on earth, that politicians, much less local goofballs operating in boring little town council meetings that nobody pays attention to, should be allowed to encumber their constituents this way. No way. This is a failure of 6th grade mathematics.


15 posted on 12/07/2012 4:32:29 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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Old news, but the LA Slimes and NPR waited till after the election where taxes were raised to report this boondoggle.


16 posted on 12/07/2012 4:32:52 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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It borrowed the money using bonds that the state treasurer has compared to payday loans

My first thought was that they could have saved money to go to a payday loan store...

Mark

18 posted on 12/07/2012 4:43:55 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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Gotta feed that PENSION PIG. More fundraisers ahead!! That’s a LOT of See’s Candy to bridge that gap. LOL!!! Or maybe time for another Proposition on the Ballot to raise taxes for ‘THE KIDS’.. Yes, do it for ‘THE CHILDREN’.. /s


20 posted on 12/07/2012 4:54:02 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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What the hell?

Did they go to one of those ‘Payday Loan’ places for the loan? ROFL! I bet each and every one of their classrooms has one of those expensive/fancy ‘smartboard’ things, and every student has an iPad for their “studies”.....

Those idiot politicians, and the morons that voted for them obviously deserve whatever they get. I hope they have to go bankrupt! (they probably already ARE, just not on paper quite yet)


21 posted on 12/07/2012 4:54:06 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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It’s way past time to separate school and state.


22 posted on 12/07/2012 4:57:38 PM PST by EternalVigilance (America's creed: Our rights come from God, not men. Governments exist to secure those rights.)
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This is what happens when Eric Holder’s people get to run things just because they’re Eric Holder’s people.


23 posted on 12/07/2012 5:01:55 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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Ramsey says it was a good deal, because his district is getting a brand-new $25 million school. "You'd take that any day," he says. "Why would you leave $25 million on the table? You would never leave $25 million on the table."

Charles Ramsey, Affirmative Action school board member, says: "Math is HARD!"


24 posted on 12/07/2012 5:09:51 PM PST by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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Woohoo! I have a checkbook full of blank checks so I can spend until it’s empty, wheeeee!


26 posted on 12/07/2012 5:16:57 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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