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You Can Give a Boy a Doll, but You Can't Make Him Play With It
The Atlantic ^ | DEC 6 2012

Posted on 12/08/2012 10:28:32 AM PST by nickcarraway

Is it discriminatory and degrading for toy catalogs to show girls playing with tea sets and boys with Nerf guns? A Swedish regulatory group says yes. The Reklamombudsmannen (RO) has reprimanded Top-Toy, a licensee of Toys"R"Us and one of the largest toy companies in Northern Europe, for its "outdated" advertisements and has pressured it to mend its "narrow-minded" ways. After receiving "training and guidance" from RO equity experts, Top-Toy introduced gender neutrality in its 2012 Christmas catalogue. The catalog shows little boys playing with a Barbie Dream House and girls with guns and gory action figures. As its marketing director explains, "For several years, we have found that the gender debate has grown so strong in the Swedish market that we have had to adjust."

Swedes can be remarkably thorough in their pursuit of gender parity. A few years ago, a feminist political party proposed a law requiring men to sit while urinating—less messy and more equal. In 2004, the leader of the Sweden's Left Party Feminist Council, Gudrun Schyman,proposed a "man tax"—a special tariff to be levied on men to pay for all the violence and mayhem wrought by their sex. In April 2012, following the celebration of International Women's Day, the Swedes formally introduced the genderless pronoun "hen" to be used in place of he and she (han and hon).

Egalia, a new state-sponsored pre-school in Stockholm, is dedicated to the total obliteration of the male and female distinction. There are no boys and girls at Egalia—just "friends" and "buddies." Classic fairy tales like Cinderella and Snow White have been replaced by tales of two male giraffes who parent abandoned crocodile eggs. The Swedish Green Party would like Egalia to be the norm: It has suggested placing gender watchdogs in all of the nation's preschools.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: genderdifferences; genderparity; homosexualagenda; sweden

1 posted on 12/08/2012 10:28:38 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

What I find hard to believe is that there are any guns in a Swedish toy catalog.


2 posted on 12/08/2012 10:30:20 AM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: nickcarraway

At what point do people get tired of this bs and say enough is enough!


3 posted on 12/08/2012 10:32:15 AM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: nickcarraway

Glad my paternal Grandfather left Sweden in 1882 for the US and Texas in particular! The Swedes are committing cultural suicide with their silly political correctness and socialism.

(Of course things aren’t going too well here for much the same reasons)


4 posted on 12/08/2012 10:33:16 AM PST by texson66 (In the words of Kent Brockman, "As for myself, I welcome our new commie overlords...")
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To: nickcarraway
Even frustrated 60's liberal weenies have had to acknowledge that boys and girls are different. Give a doll to a boy, he is likely to use it as a bat or point it at you and say "Bang Bang."
5 posted on 12/08/2012 10:33:16 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: nickcarraway

As the Bible says, “thinking themselves to be wise, they become as fools”...

If give a boy a stick it becomes a gun or a sword in his hand, never a doll. Obviously these “highly ed-u-macated” fools have never actually watched children. I suspect its an off shoot of the abortion industry, none of these folks every had kids.


6 posted on 12/08/2012 10:33:36 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

After he pulls the head off of it.


7 posted on 12/08/2012 10:40:19 AM PST by Arm_Bears (The MSM lies about conservatives; and it lies about liberals.)
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To: nickcarraway

Liberalism consists of acting against human nature.


8 posted on 12/08/2012 10:48:01 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: nickcarraway
The catalog shows little boys playing with a Barbie Dream House and girls with guns and gory action figures.

Switching them doesn't eliminate the "discrimination", it just shows the stupid idiocy that passes for "intelligent thought" by the political masters (liberals). Real non-discrimination would be to show both boys and girls together playing with both items.

They don't get enough sun over there in Sweden, do they?

9 posted on 12/08/2012 10:49:34 AM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Precisely what happens. I gave my sons Barbies because their preschool classmates had them and they thought they were kind of cool. They dressed them up for a while.

Then cut off their hair and positioned their bodies into gun shapes and used them as weapons. Hilarious.

10 posted on 12/08/2012 10:57:23 AM PST by Lizavetta (You get what you tolerate)
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To: nickcarraway

I heard a story on the Dennis Prager show(if memory serves me correctly) from a former feminist turned conservative who says as a mom she gave her sons Barbie dolls to play with. They played with them alright. They ripped off Barbie’s legs and used them as weapons to attack each other.


11 posted on 12/08/2012 11:14:49 AM PST by ReformationFan
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To: I want the USA back

“...Liberalism consists of acting against human nature....”
Acts against nature are only one of the many symptoms.
Liberalism is a chronic, debilitating mental disease that rots out the brain’s ability to think logically or objectively. As the disease takes it’s course, you will see self-loathing and violent hatred of others. We’ve all seen it in the headlines.
Until society comes to grips with it being a disease, society will continue to suffer. Once liberalism is recognized for what it really is, then the solution becomes blatantly obvious. Only problem is that there are not enough padded cells for all of em.


12 posted on 12/08/2012 11:16:04 AM PST by lgjhn23 (When the tainted finger of government touches anything, the ROT begins.)
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To: nickcarraway

I saw a show about 10 years ago. Maybe longer. The commie libs were trying to answer the question, “Are boys really different than girls?” They had this old hippie “mother” who had two little boys that she was trying to raise as two nice little pacifists. One of the experiments they did involved putting the two boys in a room with nothing to play with except for a couple of Barbie dolls. They ended up having a sword fight with the two dolls. LOL!


13 posted on 12/08/2012 11:16:20 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Don't tax me bro! Tax that guy over there!)
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To: Lizavetta

Were you ever a guest or caller on the Dennis Prager radio show? The reason I ask is heard a story very similar to yours on there.


14 posted on 12/08/2012 11:18:03 AM PST by ReformationFan
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To: nickcarraway
Here's a better image for us, forget the dolls!



15 posted on 12/08/2012 11:18:03 AM PST by cyn (Benghazi.)
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To: nickcarraway

This subject is so funny to me!

My poor mother despaired of my preferences for baseball and toy guns. She kept buying dolls for me but I kept stripping them naked and dragging them through mud.

It wasn’t until my mother lay dying she confessed to being afraid I was a lesbian when a child. Of course her fears were unfounded. Sometimes a little girl is a tomboy without any sexual context involved.


16 posted on 12/08/2012 11:22:05 AM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: nickcarraway

I think it should be pointed out that when parents are attracted to “cross-genderism” in their children, it is not the training or the children who are in error, but their parents.

Even at the turn of the 20th Century, there were parents who dressed their boys up in dresses, intentionally trying to feminize them. Despite what this said as, even then this wasn’t “social convention”, but parents acting weird.

“Little Franklin Delano Roosevelt sits primly on a stool, his white skirt spread smoothly over his lap, his hands clasping a hat trimmed with a marabou feather. Shoulder-length hair and patent leather party shoes complete the ensemble. We find the look unsettling today, yet social convention of 1884, when FDR was photographed at age 2 1/2, dictated that boys wore dresses until age 6 or 7, also the time of their first haircut.”

Efforts at “cross-genderism” also found a home in the Progressivism movement, alongside all sorts of other dubious efforts at social engineering. They rejected the idea that people had natural programming or ‘design specifications’, and embraced the idea that things like eugenics and conditioning could create “the perfect man”.

They did an impressive amount of evil and harm in the pursuit of their fantasies, and still do.


17 posted on 12/08/2012 11:33:52 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: Arm_Bears

Beat me to it. Plus the shoot them, blow them up, run them over and many other things real boys do with dolls.


18 posted on 12/08/2012 11:34:36 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: nickcarraway

Boys play with “action figures” all the time! Technically, action figures are dolls.


19 posted on 12/08/2012 12:00:20 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: AlaskaErik

Read a few years back about an experiment done with toys/boys/girl/. The boys with the barbies took the head off and used them as guns....laughed my butt off at the idiots that think boy and girls are the same...male and female are different in all species...


20 posted on 12/08/2012 12:40:17 PM PST by goat granny
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To: nickcarraway
And in 15 years...rectal syphilis.
21 posted on 12/08/2012 12:57:09 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Efforts at “cross-genderism” also found a home in the Progressivism movement, alongside all sorts of other dubious efforts at social engineering.

Some time ago I saw a documentary about a boy who,when he was a baby,somehow suffered major damage to his you-know-what..I think it was the result of an operation gone wrong.The doctors then decided that,given the circumstances,it was best to turn him into a girl and raise him as a girl.Long story short,the guy,interviewed for the documentary,said that he know all along that he didn't want to do girl things and that there was something very wrong with the way he was treated...and that was *before* he understood anything about what happened.IOW,being a boy...or a girl...is innate,at birth,to all kids and only the most disordered individuals attempt to buck that important fact of nature.

22 posted on 12/08/2012 1:05:17 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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To: SatinDoll
Sometimes a little girl is a tomboy without any sexual context involved.

Curious how it is socially acceptable for a girl to be a tomboy but not the other way around. In fact, there is no real antonym for "tomboy" other than "sissy", which is about the worst thing in the world you can say about a boy.

Growing up, the girls often joined us in "boy" games such as stickball, shooting stuff with BB guns and catching frogs. But if a boy ever did anything with the girls such as play house with tea sets and Easy-Bake ovens, he would be ostracized.

23 posted on 12/08/2012 1:14:39 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Gay State Conservative

In the 1960s, university researchers conducted studies about gender orientation, and these studies were essentially duplicated by the US government in the 1980s.

About halfway through mammalian gestation, a male fetus will secrete a small amount of testosterone, which travels to its brain and tells it, that it is a “male” brain. If the testosterone does not arrive, by default the brain is a “female” brain.

The researchers interfered with this process, creating animals that were physically male but psychologically female, and visa versa. They also tried limiting the hormone to just one brain hemisphere, and came up with animals that would exhibit traits of both genders in mating.

However, they noted even back then, while this was enough to determine animal sexuality, it did not do the same for humans. That is, feminine boys were still mostly sexually attracted to girls, with only the typical number homosexual.

The researchers noted with some concern that female hormone can block testosterone, and plant estrogen was and is being widely used to increase crop yields. Since it is chemically similar to animal estrogen, they worried that it might result in far more feminine male children over time.

Androgynous, though still mostly heterosexual.

Eventually it turned out that females who consumed either male or female hormones prior to pregnancy could influence their offspring’s gender, but it had far less effect on the halfway through gestation brain “genderization”.


24 posted on 12/08/2012 2:33:42 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: SamAdams76

Exactly. I’ve never heard of a girl being ostracized for being a tomboy. In fact, she’s often lauded as being a girl with spunk and spirit. The reverse situtation is very different.


25 posted on 12/08/2012 2:45:27 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: nickcarraway

Are “action figures” dolls??

I say yes. and GI Joe??


26 posted on 12/08/2012 3:36:43 PM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Perdogg
At what point do people get tired of this bs and say enough is enough

They don't. Each succeeding generation just accepts the nannyism as normal and goes along or ignores it without protest [mustn't offend anyone, you know.] In my never-to-be-humble opinion, we've lost the culture and there's nothing in place to get it back.

27 posted on 12/08/2012 3:54:03 PM PST by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: KosmicKitty

I said, pretty much, the same thing at post #19.


28 posted on 12/08/2012 5:26:37 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

Exactly

KK <-— who never reads the whole thread before posting :-)


29 posted on 12/09/2012 5:49:05 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: nickcarraway

I hate the people pushing this.


30 posted on 12/09/2012 8:48:59 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

The muslims are rolling on the floor about this. It will make their take over so much easier.


31 posted on 12/10/2012 6:45:21 AM PST by USAF80
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To: nickcarraway

Can’t get little boys play with dolls? What the hell do they think “action figures” are? They are basically nothing but little toy dolls.


32 posted on 12/10/2012 6:36:03 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: nickcarraway

All the macho action figures,,,Superman, G.I. Joe, The Incredible Hulk, etc., are nothing more than little toy dolls designed for boys.


33 posted on 12/10/2012 6:41:49 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: Lizavetta
Feminist friend Barbara gave her little girl Tonka trucks. Kristi put them in a circle, put little hats on them, and said she was teaching them to sing "Happy Birthday".

Barbara gave Kristi a Sea King Explorer kit, and Kristi wrapped her legs in a green towel and said she was a mermaid. Barb said, "But you could be a Sea King! You could be anything you want!"

"Anything?"

"Anything."

Sez Kristi, "I want to be a boat."

34 posted on 12/12/2012 8:17:22 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (C'est la vie.)
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