NTSB To Help Investigate Plane Crash That Killed Singer Jenni Rivera

AP/CBSLA.com) ^ | December 10, 2012 6:42 AM

[BenLurkin]

The National Transportation Safety Board has been called in to help investigate the plane crash that killed singer Jenni Rivera and six others in northern Mexico over the weekend.

Rivera, 43, had performed a concert in Monterrey, Mexico before boarding a Learjet25 early Sunday morning.

The flight took off around 3:30 a.m. and was reported missing 10 minutes later after airport officials lost contact with the pilots, Mexican authorities said.

Rivera’s makeup artist, lawyer and publicist, as well as the flight crew are all believed to be among those killed in the crash, CBS News reports.

[I_Publius]

So my question is whether or not the drug cartel would have shot the plane down? They have killed several musicians over the past few years, just to make a point.

Could they have stepped it up a few levels in order to make a point?

Crazy thought...I know.

[1rudeboy]

Not in our jurisdiction to investigate, sorry. /s

[LifePath]

As a routine matter, the NTSB offers to assist in the crash investigation of any American-designed aircraft, which includes the Lear 25.

[ILS21R]

Probably want to start with the center fuel tank. ; (

[thesharkboy]

If some Mexican authority dropped the ball on the investigation, you’d be the first here screaming to high heaven.

The question is: Should the NTSB be involved in the investigation of accidents that happen on foreign soil? The fact that a foreign agency is incompetent is not relevant.

[thesharkboy]

uninformed knee-jerk reactions

Ad hominem. Limited government is rational, and applying those limitations is a reasonable, thoughtful response to government over-reaching.

[1rudeboy]

And the answer to your question is: yes. Furthermore, simply because you are unable to distinguish the point you are trying to make does not make an objection to it, "irrelevant."

[golux]

When I was a little shorter in the tooth I helped surgeons in New York and New Haven who were experts in certain rarefied fields operate with laparoscopes on patients in places like New Delhi on their lunch breaks. We called our new technologies "telemedicine."


No, we didn't have "jurisdiction." But we sure saved lives, and the research we pioneered led to many more lives saved.


The difference between a TSA agent and an NTSB researcher is that one is a pizza-faced high-school grad control freak piglet whose aim is to make minimum wage, sniff panties and make innocent people feel uncomfortable and victimized.


The other is a student, scientist, materials expert, researcher, and out-of-the-box problem solver on some of the most complex and deadly cases imaginable whose aim is to kick failure in the ass and save lives... Maybe (probably) yours. If you've ever flown, you have NTSB agents to thank for their tireless, 24-7 / 365 / WORLDWIDE dedication to learning from EVERYTHING they can touch, making flying as safe as it is, and safer every day.

[1rudeboy]

The NTSB is not “over-reaching” by investigating the crash of a U.S.-built (so we’re told), U.S.-registered airplane which takes the lives of U.S. citizens.

[az_gila]

“She’s a U.S. citizen... wouldn’t you want the NTSB to investigate your crash?”

I don’t think NTSB would investigate any ole’ U.S. citizens crash. I’m going to say this and flame if you want... the reason they are going to investigate is because of the minority group she belongs and she was a singer. IMHO.

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It might be much more likely that the NTSB is interested in the Lear jet that was certified by the FAA in the US.

Accident investigations are one way of discovering design flaws.

[thesharkboy]

And the answer to your question is: yes.

Care to provide justification for your answer? Or does the possibility that such an investigation on foreign soil may be "useful" provide sufficient justification?

[1rudeboy]

I refer you to my comment #29.

[momtothree]

I see both your points. Thanks...

[stormer]

The plane was registered in the US and I would assume had an American pilot. The crash of an American plane flown by an American should be investigated by the NTSB regardless where it take place or the nationalities of the passengers.

[latina4dubya]

she was a singer.

she was a popular singer (entertainer)... this is why they are investigating... imo... if Johnny Depp or Angelina Jolie died in a plane crash over Monterrey, Mexico, the NTSB would likely investigate...

[ILS21R]

>>she was a popular singer (entertainer)... this is why they are investigating... imo... if Johnny Depp or Angelina Jolie died in a plane crash over Monterrey, Mexico, the NTSB would likely investigate...<<

True. They called in half the Navy in to find JFK Jr.

[machogirl]

Last pic taken before takeoff by a makeup artist. (from instagram account of her make up artist that perished in the crash)

[thesharkboy]

An assertion is not an argument.

[1rudeboy]

Such as the “assertion” that this NTSB investigation is an example of governmental “overreach?” What just happened to your “argument?” Two can play this game.

[staylowandkeepmoving]

The investigation may involve the aircraft’s owner, who continues to operate a US business (Starwood) even after being deported after being released from Federal prison for fraud involving aircraft logbooks. Some detail on Christian Esquino
http://lapoliticaeslapolitica.blogspot.com/2012/04/trouble-with-christian-eduardo-esquino.html