Skip to comments.Study suggests we could refreeze Arctic. But should we?
Posted on 12/10/2012 10:33:55 PM PST by Daffynition
A record loss of Arctic sea ice and faster-than-expected melting of Greenlands ice cap made worldwide headlines in 2012, but research published in major science journals in the fall suggest warming in the North doesnt have to continue.
We could refreeze the Arctic, proposed a paper in Nature Climate Change. It wouldnt even cost that much, said an affiliated study in Environmental Research Letters.
The question is should we?
In terms of pure technical capacity, any significant nation in the world could do it, said David Keith, a Calgarian and professor of applied physics at Harvard University, one of the lead authors in both studies.
The really hard questions here arent mostly technical. Theyre questions about what kind of planet we want and who we are.
The Arctic is refreezing itself, but the lib media refuses to report on that.
How about if we just send Al Gore to the Arctic. Based on past history, he’s a one-man local cooling engine.
We’d have to turn off the underwater volcanoes that are erupting in the Arctic first! Let’s see those enviro-nuts accomplish that one.
“Theyre questions about what kind of planet we want and who we are.”
I’m a right-winger who wants all liberals eradicated on this planet.
Let me guess. They’re going to suggest ... winter.
“A record loss of Arctic sea ice and faster-than-expected melting of Greenlands ice cap”
Both recently proved to be wrong - Arctic has almost recovered it’s “lost” sea ice. Greenland’s ice cap is melting slower than was predicted.
Putin wants the oil. The international agreements on not staking claims for such exploration don’t matter to him, so they ought not matter to us either.
Well, it won’t be Russia and Canada. The only other entity with enough ambition to match Russia’s, believe it or not, is the European Union. (That is, once they unite around a strong leader, and I wonder if people are praying that such a thing does not happen.)
I ain’t goin into dis link cuz I don’t tink they’d have it dere but I am curious how dis guy expects to heat up Greenland so we kin sink neuyork
Best Movie Submarine EVER.
Now I’m really laughing! Hilarious.
Someone should send them a few history books.
Aren't we supposed to have rising oceans and drowning cities and people dying with all this extra water going into the oceans at this point?
Wed have to turn off the underwater volcanoes that are erupting in the Arctic first!
I suggest we keep stuffing libs and enviro wacko’s in volcanoes until they stop. If we run out- we can always try different approach. :)
On a more serious note, this idea is very dangerous and all ideas like it, tinkering with the climate of the earth in our rather limited state of actual understanding, and having no real idea what natural trends might be in play, would be inviting an irreversible disaster of some unknown type (most likely where we inadvertently create the startup conditions for a glaciation, and that would prove much more difficult to reverse). I think we should go with what nature provides and adapt as the climate changes, for whatever reasons it is changing. We are not stuck with rising sea levels in that outcome either, it might be easier to develop technology to desalinate ocean water and use it in many ways to improve economic and social conditions in the third world, if we want to get into mass engineering schemes.
I can think of an easier way. Why not dust the upper atmosphere with aluminum dust? The aluminum would come from recycled aluminum cans. The effect would reflect sunlight causing the earth to cool.
The effects of aluminum dust on the Earth’s living things might be beneficial. You never know. Perhaps humans would get smarter with a little aluminum in their bodies. They might even get smart enough to figure out a better answer to Global Warming. We could always use smarter government leaders to find ways to cool off those hot hot summers.
. . . I couldn’t resist the opportunity to end my evening with a little sarcasm.
I had a dream the other night that the global warming and cooling cycles are a function of the alignment of the earth’s magnetic core axis and the geographic axis of the earth’s crust. The dynamo effect creating the electromagnetic field and the related magnetosphere strength is greater when the axis are are greater opposition.
Right now, the magnetic north axis has accelerated its rate of travel across Canada toward Siberia. In this journey it is crossing near the geographic north pole creating a planetary axis alignment that decreases output and results in a decrease in our earth’s gravitational field and magnetosphere.
At the same time, the decrease in friction and resulting output of the dynamo created as the two axis align allows the earth to be vulnerable to solar energy ejections as the magnetosphere weakens. This creates an increase in fluctuation of climate on earth and is the reason the magnetic north pole or core axis wobbles on a daily basis, correlating to solar activity.
It was a long dream and what I shared barely scratches the surface of what I learned. I do not have a background in geophysics and found the whole vision fascinating.
What is creating all the concern is that the earth’s axis alignment is coinciding with solar max.
A record loss of Arctic sea ice and faster-than-expected melting of Greenland's ice cap made worldwide headlines in 2012......even though it was entirely bogus.
It would be ironic that on or around the mayan date Earth has a magnetic pole shift and thus the weather patterns change, or a series of massive earthquakes that changes the axis or tilt.
Places like Alaska will suddenly see tropical weather. Maybe even tropical hurricanes.
Australia changes dramatically and the interior gets wave after wave of rainfall transforming it into a vast lush fertile land.
We can NOT!
Therefore, we shouldn’t spend the money pretending.
I guess that rules out THIS Obamanation.
With dreams like that one you should give up sleeping.
I vote yes. I would love to have 30 inches of snow in Houston for Christmas every year. And burying Chicago under a mile of ice would be .....just?
If the plan included triggering a nuclear winter by flattening Mecca, I could get on board with that.
“Scientists have long theorized that injecting reflective particles of some kind into the high atmosphere could reduce the amount of sunlight reaching the Earths surface and compensate for the greenhouse effect. High CO2 levels would continue to trap heat, but with less energy coming in to begin with, temperatures on the surface would go down.
Keiths paper used climate models to cautiously suggest that the method could be adapted to engineer regional effects. The right amount of aerosols in the right place at the right time could restore the Arctics frozen glory.”
Scientists have long “THEORIZED” that injecting reflective particles “OF SOME KIND”......
I think they have been injecting themselves with a substance of some kind.
The shift is not a flip as one would do with a pancake.
The dipolar field loses its strength and small polarity fields develop all over the earth. These small polarity fields slowly reorganize to a strong dipolar field with a reverse polarity. The sun does this every cycle and it is what creates all the sunspots and CME’s during solar max.
“With dreams like that one you should give up sleeping.”
This is why I do not watch TV, especially news prior to going to bed.
True, many mornings I wake up and feel as though I did not sleep. Thank God for naps!
“In terms of pure technical capacity, any significant nation in the world could do it,
NO THEY CAN’T. These people don’t realize how HUGE the earth is. It’s a matter of scale. The earth is TOO BIG for us to have any “significant” global impact on climate or anything else.
A grain of sand on the beach or more appropriate, in the desert.
A drop of water (or 4 to 5 million barrels of BP crude) in the ocean.
We, PUNY humans can’t affect the entire planet. It is beyond arrogant to think that we can. (Never mind that we shouldn’t even try).
Lefties believe in evolution, but they also believe that evolution should stop now that they are here and if anything changes, it’s bad.
These people are effing nuts!
Saving this one very good
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