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Dispute over cigarette led to Beaver Falls fatal shooting
Beaver County Times ^ | December 10, 2012 | Kristen Doerschner and Patrick O'Shea

Posted on 12/11/2012 4:44:20 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia

BEAVER FALLS -- A dispute over a cigarette was apparently the reason a Beaver Falls woman was shot to death outside her home Saturday afternoon.

Three teenage boys from Beaver Falls have been charged in the death of Kayla Peterson, 22, of 516 13th St. They are: Marcus Velasquez, also known as Marcus Cleckley, 14, of 2409 Seventh Ave.; Todavia Cleckley, 14, of 70 Harmony Dwellings; and Kyle Goosby Jr., 13, of 109 11th St.

William Bailey, 28, said just after 3 p.m. he had walked to J’s News on Seventh Avenue to buy cigarettes, and as he left the store a group of three boys began to follow him and ask for a cigarette. Bailey said he ignored the boys, and they followed him the entire way to Peterson’s house.

“I didn’t look at them. I didn’t acknowledge them,” Bailey said. He said the boys yelled at him, used foul language and got progressively louder.

When Bailey arrived at the house, he said Peterson, who was his fiancé, came out and said to the group of boys, “Why don’t you guys get a job.” He said she also told them to quit running the streets.

That’s when one of the teens pulled out a gun, Bailey said. He said when Goosby saw the gun he ran. “He didn’t want any part of that,” Bailey said.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.com ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: cigarette; murder

1 posted on 12/11/2012 4:44:25 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The anti-smoking nazis will gleefully categorize this as a ‘tobacco related death’ for statistical purposes.


2 posted on 12/11/2012 4:48:12 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Hate crime?? Certainly. Not that it matters though, murder is a bad enough charge.

The kids will cry about how young they are and how their young lives are destroyed by this.

The victim was young too, and now she has no life.

All because 3 young smartasses with a gun were anxious to see what it felt like to kill someone.


3 posted on 12/11/2012 4:52:23 AM PST by Venturer
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Am I mistaken or did that child look like Obama's potential son?

(Gruff cowboy voice) Get a rope.

Liberal position check. In this situation, do we blame society or global warming?

4 posted on 12/11/2012 4:53:10 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (The trouble with the "masses" is that they never achieve the "m")
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Todavia likes to be known as Todavia "Allwayhigh" Cleckley.

There really are no limits to stupidity.

5 posted on 12/11/2012 4:54:38 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Actually, it was the lack of supervision and parenting of the kids, that lead to their delinquency and the opportunity to “acquire” the guns.


6 posted on 12/11/2012 4:57:59 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

“Todavia”????


7 posted on 12/11/2012 5:00:40 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Children packing heat and begging strangers for smokes. Getting stoned on Mary Jane and braggin’ about their crimes on social media.

How Urban is that? Someone should write a song.


9 posted on 12/11/2012 5:11:46 AM PST by Truth2012
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
"It's disheartening juveniles this age were involved in an incident like this, and have guns," Jones said.

Well they don't have guns. Gun control laws make that illegal. And everyone know that gun control prevents criminals from having guns. Just as any elected black Democrat.

Beaver County District Attorney Anthony Berosh said they will be tried as adults.

If there is any justice to this they will get the maximum sentence, but I'm guessing that they will be out in about 7 years ready to commit more crimes. These three should be shot as a simple public safety precuation. Murdering filth at 14 does not give much hope for becoming productive citizens when they get out of jail. Too bad they didn't shot a cop, then they would all be killed while resisting arrest.

10 posted on 12/11/2012 5:11:46 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Venturer
All because 3 young smartasses with a gun were anxious to see what it felt like to kill someone.

Actually, two young smartasses. The third one was willing to engage in harassment, but wanted no part of a killing.

11 posted on 12/11/2012 5:13:05 AM PST by Sherman Logan (Brought to you by one of the unpopular pale penis people.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Todavia? Harmony? One has an alias or an aka? WTH is this? Sounds like the bad guys from a James Bond movie.


12 posted on 12/11/2012 5:16:10 AM PST by albie
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Another white woman killed by black guys!


13 posted on 12/11/2012 5:21:43 AM PST by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: G Larry

Actually, it was the lack of supervision and parenting of the kids. . . . .
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Actually it was the lack of the boyfriend carrying a gun that allowed this pos to kill his girlfriend.

Sparky needs to be brought out of retirement.


14 posted on 12/11/2012 5:26:36 AM PST by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

He said he’s gotten calls of condolences and apologies from the families of the boys.....Yeah, Todacious ( or whatever) just turned his life around. Don’t press charges.


15 posted on 12/11/2012 5:28:05 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

If it wasn’t for the cigarettes, Kayla Peterson would be alive today.

Bob Costas is a dope.


16 posted on 12/11/2012 5:47:58 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: kenmcg

You won’t hear or see this on the news.


17 posted on 12/11/2012 6:00:06 AM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

Prayers to the victims family.

Notice that the paper named all 3 of the youts involved and nary a comment from uncle obie about them looking like his son/s if he had one. New gun laws? They already violated existing laws and whoever provided access should be charged as accessory to murder also. Not to mention the whole cigarette violation. Will costas have any comment?

Cause? Superstorm Sandy of course which per algore was caused by climate change. Dang, I just looked outside and the climate changed again. It’s happening faster and faster. Like every second. Hard to keep up with it.

Helping keep mankind warm for 65 years.


18 posted on 12/11/2012 6:19:56 AM PST by rktman
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

File under: John Derbyshire was right. Again.


19 posted on 12/11/2012 6:22:39 AM PST by jocon307
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
"Peterson...came out and said to the group of boys, "Why don’t you guys get a job."

While I feel bad for her family and fiance, I must say that this was an awfully high price to pay for the satisfaction of being able to express your opinion.

People should think twice before initiating a confrontation.

20 posted on 12/11/2012 6:46:24 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
The anti-smoking nazis will gleefully categorize this as a ‘tobacco related death’ for statistical purposes.

They did that when my uncle, a life-long snuff chewer, died at age 94!


21 posted on 12/11/2012 7:02:32 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

They also include deaths from housefires where the cause of the fire was believed to have been a cigarette.

Seriously.


22 posted on 12/11/2012 7:12:12 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Hang the Mf’ers..today.


23 posted on 12/11/2012 7:49:04 AM PST by Post5203 (I bought 6 marines a beer at a bar recently and not one said thanks. I won't do that again.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

There is an important tactical lesson here.

It is an increasingly common m.o. of “group thugs”, to approach a single person and for *one* of them to engage the person with some conversation, like asking for a cigarette or spare change. This is a ruse.

The others will circle or partially circle their victim, then a different one will try to punch them out. No matter what happens, the rest of the group will then began punching and kicking them, even if they are unconscious.

The tactical response to this is several things, based on the situation.

1) If armed, immediately “confirm” your weapon is ready.

2) Put distance between yourself and the group, not just an individual. Think “group attack”.

3) Do not let yourself be encircled or your path blocked. If they try, brandish your weapon, and escape immediately. If you cannot, brandish and back into a doorway or against a wall so you cannot be attacked from behind.

4) Start yelling, use obscenities, racial epithets, and threats, because they make it clear to attackers and witnesses that you mean business.

5) Select which targets you will defend against in which order, starting with the most aggressive. Typically the more cowardly ones will run away, reducing your targets.

Important note: This is just one aggressive technique being used. Others give little or no warning, so you must be situationally aware.

Some others include a single individual rapidly approaching from behind to hit you on the head with a blunt object; a “purse snatch” type running attack where appear to be running past you, but hit you while passing; and a “wilding mob” that are walking and running in a direction, and looking for targets of opportunity.


24 posted on 12/11/2012 8:13:46 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: Joe 6-pack

My ex was a serious alcoholic, sick for years, organs were failing, weighed barely 100 lbs when he died. He also happened to smoke. The death certiicate showed smoking as his cause of death.


25 posted on 12/11/2012 9:31:28 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
guns don't kill innocent people,, idiots do.

the perp

The photograph used as a profile picture on the Facebook profile of Todavia Cleckley.
Cleckley, a 14-year-old Beaver Falls resident, is charged in connection with
Saturday's shooting death of Beaver Falls resident Kayla Peterson.

the innocent victim

RIP

26 posted on 12/11/2012 9:58:27 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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oops, the top pic above is of Todavia, not the alleged shooter, his brother, Marcus.


27 posted on 12/11/2012 10:00:36 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Beaver Falls Pennsylvania....Sounds so quaint and picturesque.

Get out of smalls towns while you still can!


28 posted on 12/11/2012 10:03:04 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: G Larry

No, it was the toxic mix of a gun with a cigarette.

Raise taxes on both and let the kid go; he’s suffered enough.


29 posted on 12/11/2012 10:40:49 AM PST by DPMD
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To: dragnet2
Beaver Falls Pennsylvania....Sounds so quaint and picturesque.

Brodaway Joe Namath's hometown.

30 posted on 12/11/2012 10:45:23 AM PST by Ditto
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

“Why don’t you guys get a job.”

An obvious threat in Obamerica.


31 posted on 12/11/2012 10:51:43 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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