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Valuable WWII Gun at Police Buy-Back (Sturmgewehr 44)
Yahoo! ^ | 12/10/12 | Annie Rose Ramos

Posted on 12/11/2012 8:38:58 AM PST by GOPsterinMA

Just like a scene out of "Antiques Roadshow," a woman in Hartford, Conn., turned in an old rifle to her local police station's gun buy-back, only to discover the gun was worth anywhere from $20,000 to $25,000. The woman, who wishes to remain anonymous, inherited the gun from her father who had brought it home with him from Europe as a memento from World War II.

The two officers conducting the gun buy-back, who are resident gun experts for the Hartford Police Department, informed the owner she was in possession of a Nazi Assault Rifle, the first of its kind, that dates back to 1944.

The gun is called a Sturmgewehr 44, literally meaning "storm rifle," and is the first "modern assault rifle ever made, eventually replaced by the AK 47 in 1947 by Russia, who copied the German design of the Sturmgewehr 44," Officer Lewis Crabtree, one of the two officers who discovered the gun, told ABC News.

"It's like finding the Babe Ruth of baseball cards," said Officer John Cavanna. "The rarity, it was made for such a very short period."

(Excerpt) Read more at gma.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; gun; sturmgewehr44; treasure; wwii
I wonder how many treasures have been "pocketed" by LEO's during these gun "buybacks".

I'm surprised the woman didn't get cuffed for not having the proper permits.

1 posted on 12/11/2012 8:39:06 AM PST by GOPsterinMA
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To: DarthVader; Impy; campaignPete R-CT; fieldmarshaldj; Perdogg; GSP.FAN

Sweet!


2 posted on 12/11/2012 8:40:34 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (The autopsy will show that this nation committed suicide.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

She needs to send that gun Red Jacket and get it fixed up.


3 posted on 12/11/2012 8:47:01 AM PST by Nashvegas (What do you get if you offer a liberal a penny for their thoughts? Change)
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To: GOPsterinMA

She needs to send that gun Red Jacket and get it fixed up.


4 posted on 12/11/2012 8:47:06 AM PST by Nashvegas (What do you get if you offer a liberal a penny for their thoughts? Change)
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To: GOPsterinMA; waterhill; ixtl
Cool!

Banglist (((ping)))!

5 posted on 12/11/2012 8:52:50 AM PST by Envisioning (Call me a racist........, one more time..........)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I’ve held a couple of these in my day. Sturdy platform and functionally similar to an AK, it doesn’t surprise me that any little old lady would think it “dangerous” if they’ve been conditioned to see “assault rifles” as such.

If it was a full-auto, depending on its pedigree and condition, it would fetch more than $25,000 without a problem.


6 posted on 12/11/2012 8:55:41 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Nashvegas

Uh, shouldn’t she have been arrested and charged with violation of the NFA? Maybe the batfe needs to be called in. Do the cops get an exemption from the NFA automatically just because they are cops? Must fall under a cover since they were doing it on behalf of the department. Inoperable at the time it was turned in but I’ll bet it wouldn’t take much for a good armorer to get her up and running. Like Red Jacket.

On the other hand. Nice piece for the avid collector.

Share the lead.


7 posted on 12/11/2012 8:57:19 AM PST by rktman
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To: GOPsterinMA
FTA: The unnamed owner of the gun has left the valuable artifact at the police station for safe keeping.

Uh-oh.

8 posted on 12/11/2012 8:57:43 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

The cops in the video seem to be on the up-and-up. Also, if the owner took it back, you can bet BATF would be waiting to bust her. The PD will probably hand it off directly to a museum for her. In this case, they actually seem to be acting in this woman’s best interest.


9 posted on 12/11/2012 9:08:55 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Charles Martel

I was wondering since its a machine gun in no working condition if she would now need a tax stamp to own it.


10 posted on 12/11/2012 9:18:42 AM PST by Nashvegas (What do you get if you offer a liberal a penny for their thoughts? Change)
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To: Charles Martel
The cops in the video seem to be on the up-and-up.

That's part of the training: "How to pretend you aren't an A-hole in front of cameras." They are very good at adopting a "WTF" expression when you try to recover something. "Gun? What gun? Nobody here signed that reciept."

But I do believe you're correct that if she tried to take it home, the BATFE would have busted her for sure.

11 posted on 12/11/2012 9:22:50 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Charles Martel

I know an ATF agent. He was actually sickened the day he was required by law to confiscate a similar item form a citizen. His choice was to destroy it or ensconce in in the ATF private museum. Selling to a dealer or giving it to the National Firearms museum was not an option.


12 posted on 12/11/2012 9:25:02 AM PST by cyclotic ( Obama's golden halo is really just a rusted hubcap)
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To: GOPsterinMA

WAY cooler than that Jap Arisaka on yesterday’s thread.


13 posted on 12/11/2012 9:28:18 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: GOPsterinMA

It’s amazing what one comes across. In 1982 I purchased an old used Japanese made pellet gun for $3. I never considered it to be of any value at at all until I ran across an identical one on ebay several weeks ago. I also didn’t know that it was one of the few CO2 pellet rifles made with an adjustment for chamber pressure, a feature I didn’t even know it had until I checked further. I now find that it’s worth about $700.


14 posted on 12/11/2012 9:35:03 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Children, pets, and slaves get taken care of. Free Men take care of themselves.)
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To: GOPsterinMA
IRS
10% gift tax        $2500.00
Capital Gains Tax 39.6%        $9,900.00
Obamacare tax 3.8%        $950.00
Federal Machine gun License $300 per year        $20,000.00
Penalty for not paying license fee 10% per year        $138,720
Total owed to Obama $163,160.00 (gun confiscated under new law)
Sound about right?
15 posted on 12/11/2012 9:37:09 AM PST by Foolsgold (L I B Lacking in Brains)
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To: GOPsterinMA
The type of weapon in question:


16 posted on 12/11/2012 9:40:44 AM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: GOPsterinMA

If the rifle wasn’t registered during one of the amnesty periods the ATF will confiscate it from a citizen. I don’t know the legality of the cops putting it in their “collection.”


17 posted on 12/11/2012 9:46:52 AM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: GOPsterinMA

18 posted on 12/11/2012 9:53:08 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: GOPsterinMA
"If the gun had been in the closet loaded, any second you could hit the wrong level and discharge a fatal round," he said of the Sturmgewehr 44.

GOOD FREAKIN LORD.

Yeah, antigun buffoon, if you hit the wrong 'level' (aka, the trigger), you can discharge a 'fatal' round.

Gaw damned antigun trash f***holes.

19 posted on 12/11/2012 9:54:40 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: GOPsterinMA

At least, these cops were honest and let the woman keep it.


20 posted on 12/11/2012 10:00:40 AM PST by expat2
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To: GOPsterinMA
"...eventually replaced by the AK 47 in 1947 by Russia, who copied the German design of the Sturmgewehr 44..."

A claim strongly disputed by Mikhail Kalashnikov.

21 posted on 12/11/2012 10:01:50 AM PST by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Bleh, that’s an AK-47!

/BSM


22 posted on 12/11/2012 10:20:48 AM PST by chainsaw56 (Do you have the right to defend yourself??)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Is there such a thing as drool ping?


23 posted on 12/11/2012 10:23:23 AM PST by chainsaw56 (Do you have the right to defend yourself??)
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To: GOPsterinMA
It is unregisterable contraband under the National Firearms Act of 1934 as amended by the Gun Control Act of 1968, per Section 922 of the US Code of Federal Regulations.

That Stg44 cannot be owned legally, and must be melted down immediately.

Haven't you people seen the sacred sculpture in front of the United Nations? Bow down to the twisted gun!

This country is so screwed, that we have laws requiring museum-quality relics to be melted down.

24 posted on 12/11/2012 11:15:20 AM PST by backwoods-engineer ("Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the gov officials committing it." -- K. Hoffmann)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I would love to have one.


25 posted on 12/11/2012 11:16:14 AM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Back in the early 1980s, a friend of mine found a nice .32 Colt pistol at a garage sale.

When he asked the woman what she wanted for it, she said that her husband paid $15 dollars for it back in the 1930s and she wanted what he paid for it, $15.00.

A local widow woman sold her husband’s guns to the local police when he died. They got bargans on M1-Garands and M1 carbines, and his other military rifles from WWII.

The locals were very upset that the cops took advantage of her ignorance to fleece her of the rifles.


26 posted on 12/11/2012 11:21:35 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (SAVE THE SUMATRAN RAT MONKEY!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

The badge is a dividing line. Some thugs stand behind it, others in front of it.


27 posted on 12/11/2012 12:27:45 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Officer Crabtree is an honorable, honest man with whom I would prefer to deal if I have to deal with the police.

He is technically incorrect. While the SG44 and AK-47 are superficially similar (to my wife’s untrained eye, they are also indistinguishable from a flattop AR), their operating systems, internal architecture and other mechanical characteristics differ greatly.


28 posted on 12/11/2012 1:23:10 PM PST by ExGeeEye (I'll give y'all 90 days for the wounds to heal; then we start on 2014. Carpe GOP!)
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To: Nashvegas
I was wondering since its a machine gun in no working condition if she would now need a tax stamp to own it.

Unfortunately, it was once a functioning machine gun, so in BATFE's eyes it must either have been registered before the '86 cut-off date - or be sliced, diced and julienned.

A registration amnesty is long, long overdue for these stashed WWII firearms. But of course, that would deprive BATFE of its favorite door-busting, kitten-stomping entertainment.

29 posted on 12/11/2012 2:05:47 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I wanna shoot me some nazzys!


30 posted on 12/14/2012 2:56:36 AM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Impy

Very good, Lt. Raine! :)

I’m having SOA withdrawal...


31 posted on 12/14/2012 5:30:12 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Time to musk up.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Me too.

“Holidays”, terrible time for TV watching unless you like the Peanuts.

“Justified” is back in January, ever watch that one?


32 posted on 12/17/2012 11:14:09 PM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: GOPsterinMA
I've heard of several incidents like this. There was one discussed here on FR a few months ago where the proverbial little old lady brought in her father's Tommy Gun. Apparently he'd been a hit man/enforcer back during Prohibition and had somehow managed to both elude police and keep the tool of his trade.

Sadly, it ended up getting melted down despite attempts by several museums to acquire it for their collections.

33 posted on 12/17/2012 11:27:18 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson ( "I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.")
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