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Researcher points to Sun as likely source of eighth-century 'Charlemagne event'
PhysOrg ^ | 11-20-2012

Posted on 12/12/2012 5:34:52 AM PST by Renfield

(Phys.org)—Until recently, the years 774 and 775 were best known for Charlemagne's victory over the Lombards. But earlier this year, a team of scientists in Japan discovered a baffling spike in carbon-14 deposits within the rings of cedar trees that matched those same years. Because cosmic rays are tied to carbon-14 concentrations, scientists around the world have wondered about the cause: a nearby supernova, a gamma ray burst in the Milky Way or an intense superflare emanating from the Sun?

Now, Adrian Melott, professor of physics and astronomy at the University of Kansas and Brian Thomas, KU alumnus and professor of physics and astronomy at Washburn University, have examined the evidence and zeroed in on the likely source of the medieval cosmic ray bombardment—a coronal mass ejection from the Sun.

Melott said the scientists, who originally discovered the carbon-14 spike and published their findings in the journal Nature, miscalculated the implied intensity of such an event, and they mistakenly ruled out the Sun as the cause of the radiation detected for the years 774-775....

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TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: 774ad; 775ad; ad774; ad775; adrianmelott; beryllium10; brianthomas; carbon14; catastrophism; charlemagne; charlemagneevent; cme; cmes; coronalmassejection; dendrochronology; franks; fusamiyake; gammaray; gammarays; godsgravesglyphs; protonevent; protonstorm; radiation; ralphneuhauser; valerihambarya; valerihambaryan
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To: knarf
No worries. I work at 3 computers all day and am often working on remote systems with headphones on most of the day.

I have been known to type in a Joe Bonamassa lyric or two onto a command line interface.

21 posted on 12/12/2012 9:07:13 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred.)
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To: Renfield
... earlier this year, a team of scientists in Japan discovered a baffling spike in carbon-14 deposits within the rings of cedar trees that matched those same years. Because cosmic rays are tied to carbon-14 concentrations, scientists around the world have wondered about the cause: a nearby supernova, a gamma ray burst in the Milky Way or an intense superflare emanating from the Sun?


22 posted on 12/12/2012 9:56:39 AM PST by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: Renfield

Ancestor of Bush’s fault


24 posted on 12/12/2012 12:55:59 PM PST by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: vanilla swirl; Renfield; Ernest_at_the_Beach

There’s also Ernest’s list about CME, hmm, okay, maybe that’s not exactly what that list is about, but it definitely includes CMEs.


25 posted on 12/15/2012 10:08:22 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Renfield; 75thOVI; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; ...

Thanks Renfield.


26 posted on 12/15/2012 11:02:34 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Thanks Renfield.

Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


27 posted on 12/15/2012 11:03:25 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Renfield
This brings to mind another post I just finished scanning on the GGG ping list; something about scientism. Anyhow, from this article:
"But in order to produce effects like the ones seen in the tree rings, such a supernova would have had to have been within 100 light years or so. Such an event would have been blindingly bright in the sky, much brighter than a full moon. It would have been bright like that for months and could not have failed to be noted by every civilization on Earth. Being so close, there would be remnants of the explosion visible today, still expanding. Something so close could not have been missed."
Velikovsky, amongst others, from accounts of austensibly drunk shaman and wild eyed witch doctors long before his and our time noted MANY such phenomena in the heavens. Along with a good deal of contemporaneous nastiness on earth. Were they all a bunch of Neanderthal twits??? The arrogance of today's scientific community™ is their belief that earlier humans couldn't tell the difference between the sun and a large campfire.

I may be missing something here but from what I've been able to gather from the little reading I've done re gamma ray bursts is that the part we SEE that could affect us can last from fractions of a second to several minutes; then they're gone. Like they were never even there??? The author(s) may be assuming that every supernova explosion leaves a lasting impression. Maybe they do; maybe they don't...

That being said, our sun very likely produces some spectacular, even devastating fireworks from time to time.

28 posted on 12/18/2012 5:45:04 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (2C7:14 If my people..shall humble themselves and pray..I will hear from heaven..and heal their land.)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Yes, and we’re about due for another “Carrington event”...and our idiots in the Senate voted down the bill that would have mandated hardening of the electrical grid.

By the way, have you watched David Talbot’s “Symbols of an Alien Sky” videos? Check him out on YouTube if you haven’t already.


29 posted on 12/19/2012 3:52:02 AM PST by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Renfield

Can’t recall if I’ve seen that particular segment of his but I’ll check it out. The electric universe is alive and well, eh???


30 posted on 12/19/2012 7:25:22 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (2C7:14 If my people..shall humble themselves and pray..I will hear from heaven..and heal their land.)
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To: FlipWilson
They teach worse fairy tales than that.

They believe life sprang from non living matter.

The fact that this has never happened doesn't seem to register. The fact that it continues to not happen has no effect on their faith.

31 posted on 11/16/2015 10:30:42 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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To: FlipWilson

Ummm, I am FlipWilson and I did not post the above comment. Don’t get me wrong, it was witting but I did not post it.


32 posted on 11/16/2015 6:06:29 PM PST by FlipWilson
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