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Mitsubishi Reports Toyota Replication [of Iwamura's LENR transmutation of elements]
New Energy Times ^ | December 7, 2012 | Steve Krivit

Posted on 12/12/2012 4:54:03 PM PST by TXnMA

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To: TXnMA

The title suggests Mitsubishi is building Toyotas now. What’s next? Ford building Chevys?


41 posted on 12/13/2012 6:12:32 AM PST by Fresh Wind
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To: The Antiyuppie
I noticed that too. And platinum is very useful.

Besides having a spot price about the same as gold.

42 posted on 12/13/2012 6:14:39 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Paladin2
I’m more than good with Platinum.

Yabut, what are you gonna do, pave your driveway with it?

43 posted on 12/13/2012 6:21:02 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: Fresh Wind
What’s next? Ford building Chevys?

I don't know if they'd be any good, but at least they wouldn't go bankrupt.

44 posted on 12/13/2012 6:24:42 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: TXnMA; <1/1,000,000th%; Wonder Warthog; Kevmo
I was initially disturbed by the news of this only seeming to be reported in publications like "e-catworld" and such, but looking at Yasuhiro Iwamura's publications and citations, he seems to be the real deal.

He has also published on LENR with co-author Francesco Celani, who has critiqued Rossi's device

45 posted on 12/13/2012 6:31:14 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: TXnMA
Here's Yasuhiro Iwamura's 2006 paper "Observation of Nuclear Transmutation Induced by Deuterium Permeation through Pd Complex" .

It's hosted on Mitsubishi Heavy Industry's research page, which gives me a warm fuzzy.

46 posted on 12/13/2012 6:41:41 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop

THE single best starting point if you are unfamiliar with “cold fusion” is this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Excess-Heat-Fusion-Research-Prevailed/dp/0967854830

Beaudette writes clearly enough for the non-science layman to understand, but includes sufficient depth that the practicing scientist will also benefit.


47 posted on 12/13/2012 8:44:11 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: TXnMA
Ah, now I can get through. I see you made the connection concening the lighter elements. In the Mitsubishi experiments, deuterium being included.

I'm curious as to how much deuterium might be used up. Hydrogen itself is too stable. According to theory, one cannot get two of those to fuse..but instead, a heavy hydrogen (deuterium) fuses with a hydrogen atom. Or so I understand, what is said to take place inside a star.

Some other ancient alchemy-like text spoke of taking the lighter (in their eyes more noble) "air", and "casting it to the ground".

What the heck was all of that about? Are we seeing something like it, now?

48 posted on 12/13/2012 9:41:35 AM PST by BlueDragon (I sang Dixie as he died The people just walked on by as I cried...)
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To: TXnMA
Mitsubishi Reports Toyota Replication

Did they use a Honda Element?

49 posted on 12/13/2012 9:52:11 AM PST by tnlibertarian
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To: BlueDragon
I seriously considered posing Krivit's re-drawing of Iwamura's diagram of his setup

...but I was hoping folks would go to his article...

50 posted on 12/13/2012 10:29:00 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA; dangerdoc; citizen; Liberty1970; Red Badger; Wonder Warthog; PA Engineer; glock rocks; ...

And thank you for posting it. If I had posted it, the naysayers would be out in droves.

The Cold Fusion/LENR Ping List

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/coldfusion/index?tab=articles

Keywords: ColdFusion; LENR; lanr; CMNS
business, news, extended, tech


http://ecatnews.com/?p=1144


51 posted on 12/13/2012 11:26:31 AM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: TXnMA; betty boop

I do not understand all this excitement. Transmutations have been part of the LENR investigation for years.

From the LENR-CANR website, there’s a link to some excellent books that I recommend, including one focused on transmutation.

Mizuno, T., “Nuclear Transmutation: The Reality of Cold Fusion” describes the experimental work of Prof. Mizuno. Read selected pages in our library.
http://www.amazon.com/s/189-0162132-4114471?ie=UTF8&index=books&keywords=Nuclear%20Transmutation%20Cold%20Fusion&link_code=qs&tag=thedesmoinescity


52 posted on 12/13/2012 11:30:42 AM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: PapaBear3625
When heavy-hitters like Mitsubishi and Toyota start announcing results, it's time to grab a cup of coffee and pay attention. They would not risk losing face unless they had subjected their results to a LOT of checking and were sure it was the Real Deal.
***How about National Instruments?

National Instruments is a multibillion dollar corporation that does not need to stick its neck out for “bigfoot stories”. After noting more than 150 replications, they recently concluded that with so much evidence of anomalous heat generation...
http://www.22passi.it/downloads/eu_brussels_june_20_2012_concezzi.pdf
Conclusion
• There is an unknown physical event and there is a need of better measurements and control tools. NI is playing a role in accelerating innovation and discovery.



The current state of the science of LENR is that the Pons Fleischmann Anomalous Heat Effect has been replicated and it is an established scientific fact. But it is not an established ENGINEERING field because the effect is difficult to generate and there is still some lingering stigma associated with the field.
53 posted on 12/13/2012 11:33:46 AM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: PapaBear3625

It is Celani’s device which is being replicated at the EU cell of MFMP

http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/follow/176-eu-cell-2-active-wire-run


54 posted on 12/13/2012 11:36:17 AM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: TXnMA; chrisser; Alamo-Girl; betty boop

To me, the excitement in this is potential understanding of transmutations / formation processes for heavy element development inside deuterium-rich, fusion-powered stars.

IMHO, cosmological theory and the “big bang” explanation of Creation (of the Earth) just got a whole lot more real...
***That has been part of my excitement about this field for a long time. What does it take to get someone to look at scientific data, especially when it is well organized at Jed Rothwell’s website?

http://lenr-canr.org/

Instead, LENR fans have been subject to abuse. I did not expect such anti-scientific invective from Freepers about this.


55 posted on 12/13/2012 12:05:07 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo
***How about National Instruments?

National Instruments is a multibillion dollar corporation that does not need to stick its neck out for “bigfoot stories”. After noting more than 150 replications, they recently concluded that with so much evidence of anomalous heat generation...

Conclusion • There is an unknown physical event and there is a need of better measurements and control tools. NI is playing a role in accelerating innovation and discovery.

The difference is that NI did not stick its neck out as far. NI talks about "unknown physical event" and the need for better instrumentation to analyze what's happening.

Mitsubishi is saying, on its own corporate website, that one of their scientists has observed unambiguous LENR activity. They are reporting transmutation of elements, in their own internal research. That's a big difference. They are putting their name and reputation in on LENR being very real.

56 posted on 12/13/2012 12:32:33 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: TXnMA
Thanks for the enlarged graph. I missed the enlargement, so overlooked the flooding aspect, but do recall previous (some months ago?) reports mentioning it. Deuterium flooding or infusion all along in the process... [idle speculations following, deleted]
57 posted on 12/13/2012 12:43:33 PM PST by BlueDragon (I sang Dixie as he died The people just walked on by as I cried...)
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To: PapaBear3625

It’s interesting that you say, “When heavy-hitters like Mitsubishi and Toyota start announcing results, it’s time to grab a cup of coffee and pay attention. “ But science is true whether or not someone is a heavy hitter. The Wright brothers unlocked the secrets of controlled flight, while the heavy hitters of their day completely failed. But on in an engineering sense, rather than a scientific sense, heavy hitters are required to attract the money needed for rapid development. It is a requirement for engineering but not for science. The science behind these experiments is long established. The engineering is just at its beginning phase.


58 posted on 12/13/2012 5:25:48 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: PapaBear3625
Here's Yasuhiro Iwamura's 2006 paper "Observation of Nuclear Transmutation Induced by Deuterium Permeation through Pd Complex" . It's hosted on Mitsubishi Heavy Industry's research page, which gives me a warm fuzzy.

I don't see any cold fusion going on there. It would be nice to see the stoichiometries of all of the input/outputs, but I suspect that Iwamura was describing an alternate method of isotope production. Making isotopes is nothing new. The figure showing deuterium gas on either side of the Pd barrier puzzles me; if the deuterium is part of the reaction, I expect to see some reaction products mixed with it after it goes through the barrier. I'd also like to see the atomic weights of the Cs (starting material) and the Pr (end product).

In any case, transmutation =/= cold fusion.

59 posted on 12/13/2012 5:33:28 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: TXnMA

That’s nice. Can you power a car with one?


60 posted on 12/13/2012 5:35:19 PM PST by Little Ray (Get back to work. Your urban masters need their EBTs refilled.)
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