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Three female Rebel pilots were discharged from ‘Return of the Jedi’
Yahoo Movie Talk ^ | 12/13/12 | Bryan Enk

Posted on 12/13/2012 2:41:59 AM PST by Kartographer

The Rebel Alliance now seems a little bit less like a galactic Boys Club. The final battle against the Death Star in "Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi" (1983) used to have a bit more of a woman's touch as it's been revealed that there were actually three female Rebel pilots taking on TIE Fighters and Star Destroyers as they waited for Han Solo and the gang to blow up the shield generator bunker on Endor (ah, old war stories!). There were three unnamed lady pilots in "Jedi," two of which can be seen in the extras for the Blu-ray release of the original "Star Wars" trilogy. Both of them were A-Wing pilots, with one even getting a line ("Got it," which was actually dubbed by a male actor in post-production) before getting shot down by a TIE Fighter seconds later. The second pilot is, surprisingly, considerably older ... and could now indeed be the inspiration for a new wave of fan fiction (she's a retired Rebel vet who's allowed to come back for one last hurrah against the Empire after being deemed too old for duty during the Battle of Yavin in "A New Hope," perhaps?).

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I am not a fan of women in combat, but face it some women are made of some pretty stern stuff. If I was flying a X-wing who could ask for a better 'wing-man' than a woman like U.S. Air Force Capt. Kim Campbell? Remember her?


Kim Campbell followed her courageous flight out of Baghdad with another flight into Baghdad the next day to search for a downed U.S. pilot, who was recovered safely. "It completely reinforced the importance of taking care of the guys on the ground," she said. (Photo by Alan Lessig)

Campbell couldn’t see the hundreds of holes in her A-10′s tail, but she knew the plane was built to take fire. She flipped a single switch to convert the aircraft to manual control.

“Thankfully, it worked,” Campbell said, and she and Turner headed back to Al Jaber Air Base in Kuwait.

Her plane wasn’t flying well, but it was flying. Controlling an injured A-10 manually with no hydraulics had been done before, but landing was another matter. Three times a pilot had attempted it. One pilot had been killed when his aircraft crashed on landing. Another pilot survived, but his aircraft was severely damaged when it swerved on and off the runway.

But there was hope from one similar situation: The pilot had landed the A-10 safely.

1 posted on 12/13/2012 2:42:01 AM PST by Kartographer
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2 posted on 12/13/2012 2:45:58 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Kartographer

3 posted on 12/13/2012 2:46:44 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Kartographer

4 posted on 12/13/2012 2:48:03 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Lazamataz

I love the tagline. Often you don’t need to wait for the argument to go on, they lead right off with it.


5 posted on 12/13/2012 2:50:35 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Lazamataz
Tell it to Silver Star winner SGT Leigh Ann Hester:

From irrigation ditches in an orchard near the road, 50 enemy fighters launched their complex attack on the convoy with heavy machine-gun fire and Rocket Propelled Grenades, as well as using parked cars along the route to prohibit movement of US troops. She led her team through the “kill zone” and into a flanking position. SGT Hester assaulted a trench line with grenades and M203 grenade-launcher rounds. Then she and squad leader SGT Timothy Nein cleared two trenches and Hester killed three insurgents. When the firefight ended, only three US soldiers were injured, while 27 Iraqis were dead, six wounded and one captured.
6 posted on 12/13/2012 2:53:30 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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7 posted on 12/13/2012 2:56:04 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Kartographer

How does it feel to have your new thread crapped all over?

Notice how nobody is laughing at the “humor”.


8 posted on 12/13/2012 4:14:08 AM PST by wolficatZ (Hey blue states....Got Food?)
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To: Kartographer
16 years later, there was at least one female pilot in The Phantom Menace, as well as female Jedi in the two subsequent films.

9 posted on 12/13/2012 4:53:54 AM PST by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: Kartographer
I am not a fan of women in combat,
but face it some women are made of some pretty stern stuff.

The Lord makes Men Strong. and Women Tough
In the long haul, Tough wins over Strong

Before modern anesthesia and obstetric techniques,
The Mortality Rate of Childbirth was ~ 2-3% per delivery

If Women were not tough, there would be no more people

IMHO, the harder a situation is,
The tougher a Woman becomes,
until, if necessary, they can become Granite.

10 posted on 12/13/2012 5:04:29 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: HangnJudge
There is the Roman Senator that said, "Make women your equal, they will rule you."

Women also are the largest voting block for the Democrats. Women can be selfish.

11 posted on 12/13/2012 5:10:31 AM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: bmwcyle

“Make women your equal, they will rule you.”

This happens anyway
But Those who Rule,
are Enslaved to Those who are Ruled

IMHO,
Beauty is a form of POWER
Like all forms of Power,
it can be Used and Misused

My Take...
The great uses of Beauty is in
Kindness, Caring, and Control
Beauty can Control Difficult Situations,
just by being Present

Beauty is a Magnifier for Healing

Like all forms of Power,
Misuse damages both the Wielder, and Others
The Evidence for this is Everywhere


12 posted on 12/13/2012 5:21:59 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: Kartographer

One of my wife’s favorite sayings...

“I have no problem with men making all the decisions and running things.......

as long as we continue to run the men.”


13 posted on 12/13/2012 6:13:22 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: Kartographer
You'll never get a Blu-Ray of the Star Wars that you used to know...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJlbPXZEpRE

14 posted on 12/13/2012 6:33:22 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: I cannot think of a name
Or, as they put it in the film My Big, Fat Greek Wedding,

"It is true. The man is the head of the family. But the woman is the neck. And she can make that head turn ANY WAY SHE WANTS IT TO.


15 posted on 12/13/2012 6:48:40 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Kartographer
You're aware that Star Wars was fictional, right?
16 posted on 12/13/2012 6:52:31 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Kartographer

Rudyard Kipling (1865-1936)

The Female of the Species

WHEN the Himalayan peasant meets the he-bear in his pride,
He shouts to scare the monster, who will often turn aside.
But the she-bear thus accosted rends the peasant tooth and nail.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.

When Nag the basking cobra hears the careless foot of man,
He will sometimes wriggle sideways and avoid it if he can.
But his mate makes no such motion where she camps beside the trail.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.

When the early Jesuit fathers preached to Hurons and Choctaws,
They prayed to be delivered from the vengeance of the squaws.
‘Twas the women, not the warriors, turned those stark enthusiasts pale.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.

Man’s timid heart is bursting with the things he must not say,
For the Woman that God gave him isn’t his to give away;
But when hunter meets with husbands, each confirms the other’s tale—
The female of the species is more deadly than the male.

Man, a bear in most relations—worm and savage otherwise,—
Man propounds negotiations, Man accepts the compromise.
Very rarely will he squarely push the logic of a fact
To its ultimate conclusion in unmitigated act.

Fear, or foolishness, impels him, ere he lay the wicked low,
To concede some form of trial even to his fiercest foe.
Mirth obscene diverts his anger—Doubt and Pity oft perplex
Him in dealing with an issue—to the scandal of The Sex!

But the Woman that God gave him, every fibre of her frame
Proves her launched for one sole issue, armed and engined for the same;
And to serve that single issue, lest the generations fail,
The female of the species must be deadlier than the male.

She who faces Death by torture for each life beneath her breast
May not deal in doubt or pity—must not swerve for fact or jest.
These be purely male diversions—not in these her honour dwells—
She the Other Law we live by, is that Law and nothing else.

She can bring no more to living than the powers that make her great
As the Mother of the Infant and the Mistress of the Mate.
And when Babe and Man are lacking and she strides unclaimed to claim
Her right as femme (and baron), her equipment is the same.

She is wedded to convictions—in default of grosser ties;
Her contentions are her children, Heaven help him who denies!—
He will meet no suave discussion, but the instant, white-hot, wild,
Wakened female of the species warring as for spouse and child.

Unprovoked and awful charges—even so the she-bear fights,
Speech that drips, corrodes, and poisons—even so the cobra bites,
Scientific vivisection of one nerve till it is raw
And the victim writhes in anguish—like the Jesuit with the squaw!

So it comes that Man, the coward, when he gathers to confer
With his fellow-braves in council, dare not leave a place for her
Where, at war with Life and Conscience, he uplifts his erring hands
To some God of Abstract Justice—which no woman understands.

And Man knows it! Knows, moreover, that the Woman that God gave him
Must command but may not govern—shall enthral but not enslave him.
And She knows, because She warns him, and Her instincts never fail,
That the Female of Her Species is more deadly than the Male.

Make yer own sandwich!

Arm and train the womenfolk, it’s the manly thing to do.


17 posted on 12/13/2012 6:56:28 AM PST by petro45acp ( God save the republic, for surely the majority electorate is not up to the task)
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To: Kartographer

There was only really one woman in the first three films. I call it the Ridley Scott effect. No wonder Luke was hot for his sister, and Lando hit on her, she was the only woman in that galaxy far far away.


18 posted on 12/13/2012 7:33:08 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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From the article:

“We have a feeling a lot of the Rebellion’s apparent gender discrimination will have dissolved in time for “Episode VII.” “Star Wars” needs women...”

I’m so sick of women feeling the need to force themselves in everywhere. If they aren’t present in what they deem sufficient numbers, the feminist inferiority complex kicks in and it’s “gender discrimination.”


19 posted on 12/13/2012 7:40:22 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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"There was only really one woman in the first three films. I call it the Ridley Scott effect. No wonder Luke was hot for his sister, and Lando hit on her, she was the only woman in that galaxy far far away."

Are you referring to the same Ridley Scott who produced/directed the Alien series? You know, the one with Ripley as the alpha female? As I remember, all the Alien movies had other females in them.

Not only that, but Star Wars DID have another woman in it (Return of the Jedi) in the character of the female leader of the Rebel Fleet aboard the Mon Calamari cruiser where Han Solo, Leia, Luke, Lando, and Chewbacca learned of their roles in the upcoming attack on the not-yet-completed Death Star. This woman (I don't remember her name) gave the speech about the weaknesses of the new Death Star and its defensive shield whose generator was located on Endor. At the end of her lecture, she states "Many Bothan spies died to bring us this information." Remember her?

20 posted on 12/13/2012 8:06:06 AM PST by EnigmaticAnomaly ("The putrid, metastasizing rot of liberalism consumes only the weak minded.")
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Yes, her name was Mon Mothma - and she was the leader of the Rebel Alliance - she was on screen about 15 seconds and hardly counted as a character.

Yes, Alien had Ripley - the one female character. There were a couple other women - and they all got killed in short order. Aliens had Ripley and ‘Newt’ - ‘Newt’ was a girl not a woman. Alien III had Ripley on a penal colony for XYY men (IIRC) which was stupid, no reason to keep XYY men apart from other men. Alien Resurrection had Winona Rider AND Ripley! Wow TWO entire female characters - although IIRC Winona was playing a cyborg, and at that point Ripley was a part alien mutant.

I call it the “Ridley Scott effect” mostly for TWO movies - Gladiator and Kingdom of Heaven. I liked Gladiator (K of H was an absolute travesty) - but both only had ONE woman in the entire movie as an actual character. No wonder the Emperor (played by Joaquin Phoenix) was hot for his sister - she was the ONLY WOMAN IN ROME!!!!

21 posted on 12/13/2012 8:31:03 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Kartographer

wait.....women fly? - WTH ! - enough of the jibberish and talk of majik flying machines, summon my wench and have her fetch my dining jacket and a tankard of ale


22 posted on 12/13/2012 8:33:38 AM PST by Revelation 911
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To: EnigmaticAnomaly

Let me not forget the character of Vasquez in Aliens. She was such a succesful character that she ALSO appeared in Avatar! She only had a few lines, but she was certainly memorable - and hot in a butch kind of way.

Hudson: Hey Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man?
Vasquez: No. Have you?


23 posted on 12/13/2012 8:48:06 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Mr. Lucky

Yes I am aware that ‘Star Wars’ is fictional. While you are clearly unaware the post is about does it make the movie’s more realistic by including female fighter pilots?


24 posted on 12/13/2012 10:54:36 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: allmendream

I always though that Vasquez kind of accepted Lt. Gorman in the end as a fellow warrior. She looked at him like she was saying: “You are still a ass of an Officer, but you got guts enough to go out with a bang and not a whimper.”


25 posted on 12/13/2012 11:02:36 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

I see.


26 posted on 12/13/2012 11:28:22 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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