Skip to comments.Military Discounts (VANITY)
Posted on 12/13/2012 8:43:38 AM PST by Sporke
I have a problem. I was reading posts from Military folks on a certain social internet forum about Military Discounts.
It seems as though a fair number of Soldiers were offended that a certain restaurant didn't offer a discount.
I responded that when I served, I never expected a discount. If one was offered, I would accept, but I never asked for one. I also posted that if they went into a business expecting a discount, and were offended when they didn't get one, they were no better than a common beggar. Needless to say my post didn't go over very well.
My questions are these....should a business offer a discount? Should a Soldier ask for one? Should a Soldier expect one?
Owners should run their business the way they want.
I ask about discounts (except in San Francisco where I was told “we don’t give discounts to baby killers) but am not offended when they are not offered.
I will patronize a place that offers a discount over a place that does not.
No they shouldn’t expect a discount as if it’s a right, but then our military remains a reflection of our society as a whole, so it doesn’t surprise me in the least that you get flak from your response.
A soldier is free to ask for a discount. The establishment is free to offer one, or not. The soldier is free to take his or her business elsewhere, or not.
When Jesus healed the lepers, how many came back to thank him?
No, they shouldn’t expect a discount.
Seems to me there’s no harm in asking, and if one has military ID, in taking it.
But I am 60+. Some places offer senior discounts. I’ll sometimes ask if they offer a discount. Family does a lot of eating at buffets, sometimes we have to pay first. I’ll ask if they offer a discount.
If they do, then yea. If not, I have a choice to either accept the prices as is, or depart. Thus far, I have always accepted the price as is.
I have a retired military ID.
I ask for a military discount everywhere I go but I don’t expect to get one.
It’s actually a little “bonus” surprise if they say yes.
It’s up to the business, no, and no. That being said, there were a few times I was offered one without asking, and yes, I accepted their graciousness.
“should a business offer a discount? Should a Soldier ask for one? Should a Soldier expect one?”
What do we pay our troops, what do we expect from them, and how do they get treated by this administration, and what will be happening to what was promised them when they enlisted?
My wife & I mid-60s and what bothers us most is when restaurants give a senior discount without asking if we are seniors...really makes one feel older than dirt.
Lowe’s and Homer Depot give 10% military discounts if you flash your ID card. They do not ask you. It was a Lowe’s employee who actually told me about this at church a few years back. Until that time, I had been retired over 15 years and did not know it. I have never been given a military discount any other place but these two. I don’t ask and no one has actually offered. I know on Vets Day, places like Appleby’s and such give discounts and such.
I think we should all be somewhat alarmed at the growing entitled Obama voter segment within our military. The day will come when these types, along with the "pink swastika" types, will obey unlawful orders to disarm americans and arrest Christians.
A discount is similar to a tip. Tipping in America began in the old south when a slave belonging to somebody else did something for you. It was outside their normal duties so a gratuity was often given. It was, for example, standard that people left their shoes outside their bedroom doors in the expectation that theyd be put back polished. The tip was often in the shoe. Id say given that history that tipping/gratuities and discounts are not generally a good thing. You dont ask for a tip. Its okay to accept one if it is offered.
History has moved on. Tipping is now expected in restaurants because the wait-staff is underpaid in the expectation that if theyre good theyll make good tips. Even if theyre not good youre EXPECTED to tip.
Discounts in the modern sense probably originate with Nixons wage and price freeze. That fundamentally changed pricing structures because they rolled back everybodys product to the price it was on x date. If a company was running its product on that date as a loss leader then they might go out of business. Thus manufacturers started listing the suggested retail price, offering coupons and discounts based on one thing or another.
I always say to somebody in uniform Thank you for your service. If they were offended because I didnt say it, that would be annoying. Likewise, to be offended because you cant get a discount on somebodys product is annoying.
Most pricing structures are carefully thought out. They take into account sometimes hundreds of variables. Most clerks are not empowered to vary the price even a little bit because some would abuse the privilege and hurt suppliers or their employers. There was quite brouhaha in my hometown when a clerk gave a couple of the local university football stars a discount. She got fired. But the local university jocks had come to expect discounts and it played badly before the university stepped in and forbid them from asking or accepting discounts.
“I use a hotel chain that has a standing military discount, their website has a box to check when you make reservations on line and just show your ID at check-in. It’s a nice discount 33% usually.”
Some hotel military discounts are more expensive than the regular price - I always check both.
bingo....it’s simple really
The bigger issue is when your military starts to expect to be treated as a member of an elite class separate from the citizens whose rights they serve to secure.
If you treat every soldier, fireman, police officer or public servant as a hero, true heroism can be obscured.
When i served i never sought to be treated any different from a non military citizen. Today i do not seek any veteran discounts because i served for a different reason than to secure a discount.
I travel a lot between Alaska and California. Enterprise and Budget rental cars give military discounts. Marriott Hotels do as well. I did not know that about Applebees...I’ll file that away as I love Applebees!
Did you ask if that same rule applied to abortionists?
I totally get that, but a fun thing happened the other day, I had to show my ID to prove I was a senior......needless to say that young lady got a nice TIP. (yea, I know it was a gimmick but it worked)
Walgreens in my area, give a 20% discount on their brands, and a 15% discount on other brands, on two dates the 1st of the month and the 15th to military and dependents with ID card..
I think we all who served believe as you do. But if they OFFER a discount, I'm going to take it. I don't EXPECT or DEMAND one.
1) That's a free market business decision, which I will not attempt to second-guess.
No one in the military should ever EXPECT a discount. They should simply show appreciation for them when they’re offered. Problem is a bit of an entitlement mentality seeping into the ranks.
..that ain’t nothing, a few weeks ago I get a call from a long lost cousins. Seems he was doing some research on Ancestry dot blah blah....
The last time I saw him and spoke with him was when he was 12 or so, during the conversation he updates me with...”I just retired from the US Army as a Lt.Col”.....I could’ve drop right there
I have never asked, and I think I put up a thread here, about a time I was in line at the Del Taco (WAY better than Taco Bell, BTW)
I got up to the window to pay, and was told the lady in front of me saw my Marine Corps license plate and paid my bill.
“The bigger issue is when your military starts to expect to be treated as a member of an elite class separate from the citizens whose rights they serve to secure.”
They should be so treated and appreciated. They will give up their life to save yours without judgement of your character; one for one without blinking - that makes them special.
Yep, everyone's a hero these days, which makes the term meaningless. Everyone gets smiley faces in pre-school, gold stars in secondary education and moved on thru higher education. It's all about self esteem and feeling good, not actual achievement and valor.
Now, gimmee my discount. /s
They'd probably give discounts to REAL baby killers in Planned Parenthood.
so have gang members, a bigger problem than they want to let on to
I have seen some advertisements near Veterans Day that Appleby’s had a deal for all Vets on our day. Put that on your calendar for next year as a reminder.
>>I got up to the window to pay, and was told the lady in front of me saw my Marine Corps license plate and paid my bill.
Now that’s cool! I’ve done that on occasion when the opportunity presents itself, and it feels good. But it’s rare when the stars align just right. Last time I can remember was while waiting for a flight, and a fellow was in uniform with his huge duffel bag in tow, waiting like me. I briefly spoke to him and thanked him for his service, at which time he indicated he was headed home after a stint in one of the muzzie wars (my term, not his). When he went into the little magazine store that was by the terminal I accosted him at the cash register and made sure his money was no good. It’s fun to be in a position to do that, but the logistics and finances aren’t always in alignment. :)
Thank you for your service!
I don’t normalyor automaticaly ask for one. That said, I shop at Lowes, and Advance Auto because they offer one.
As a former Air Force member, I say: that’s the business’s decision; no and no.
I never asked, and never expected one.
I will admit that I personally do tend to visit those companies more often not for the discount but for the fact that they appreciate what the military has done for them.
We have a good conservative house delegate in my county, Scott Lingamfelter, who is running for lt. Governor. However, he would always propose special treatment for veterans, like waiving their property taxes. I would write against these special benefits.
My argument was that if we don’t pay soldiers enough, we should raise their pay. And that a property tax waiver doesn’t compensate all soldiers equally, but instead gives more benefits to soldiers who have more (own more property) because their tax waivers would be worth more, so if we really wanted to repay all soldiers, we should find something that would benefit all of them.
I got a lot of flack for that. Of course, I also get a lot of flack from conservatives who shop online when I point out that they are supposed to be paying sales taxes in their states (they hide under the guise of “taxes are bad”, but can’t explain why they should be allowed to avoid them when others cannot). And try to argue for removing a deduction that someone takes, and it won’t matter how conservative they are, they will fight you over it.
We all love our free stuff. We all think we are entitled to whatever it is we get, and we all want OTHER people to have to be punished or treated more harshly, so we can continue to enjoy our benefits.
Many street cops refuse discounts at restaurants because there is an unsaid expectation of the management that the cops will take their side in any customer altercation resulting from a bill dispute.
It is easier to tell a client that a discount is no longer offered than to raise your prices. Some sort of psychology there, they are grateful for having gotten by cheaper than usual while they did, and are far less resistant to prices returning to "normal" when the discount expires than they would be to a price increase later after a price drop. It says your goods and/or services are really worth X, but you are/have been getting a deal at n% off.
“My wife & I mid-60s and what bothers us most is when restaurants give a senior discount without asking if we are seniors...really makes one feel older than dirt.”
That’s just silly.
Offering any type of discount is soley up to the business. No discount program should be expected/required.
It is appropriate for anyone to inquire if discounts are offered at those types of businesses which traditionally offer them.
It is never appropriate to expect/demand a discount.
Discounts for active duty & veterans are a privilege. They are a way for businesses to say "thank you" to those who have served. Demanding a discount is as innapropriate as demanding a "thank you". If a discount is offered to a serviceman/veteran, the response should be gracious, whether on not the offer is accepted.
I am aware of a lodging entity which this year started offering a military/veteran's discount. It is the only discount it has ever offered, though at times it does offer promotional packages.
The military/veteran's discount is this business's discrete way of saying "thank you". Those inquiring about it receive it. If management becomes aware of a guest's military/veteran status during his stay, his rate is automatically reduced to the discounted rate for the entire stay. This is done quietly with a simple "thank you for serving" to the guest on departure.
Without fail, all guests receiving this discount have been humble and grateful. Most will comment along the line of; "I haven't done much..." And though the slight easing of expenses is much appreciated, you can tell that the thoughtfulness means the world to the recipient.
That is the true difference between military/veteran disounts and other discounts. One is a "thank you". The others are merely business inducements. Never expect a "thank you" for serving. But when given one, accept it humbly and graciously.
I also own a few businesses and offer a 10% military discount to my customers. It's a way to thank them and it keeps them coming back!
Businesses don’t have to offer a soldier discounts unless they advertise as giving discounts. It’s a good marketing strategy to bring in new customers.
Most vets can't remember being able to afford to eat in a restaurant when they served, we were lucky enough to be able to afford cigarettes and booze at the EM club as we lived and ate on base.
The military is a pretty well paid job today.
Living in military towns for the past 27 years, we ask and most of the time we receive. I have never been offended when told that they don’t have a military discount.
But if you don’t ask, you usually will not find out. Lowe’s and Home Depot give 10% discounts to retired military as well as active. ATT Cellular offer a 19% discount.
I have no problem with it.
Now I'm back in NYC. When I got something from Men's Warehouse the other day I inquired if they had a military discount. They do not. Which is totally fine. They aren't four miles from a military base so it doesn't make sense for them to have one.
If one of my soldiers ever griped about not getting a discount I would make it clear that is not an acceptable outlook.
I was in uniform and on my 100 mile commute from the graveyard shift at my Air Force duty station when I came by an IGA supermarket. It was just about midnight when I pulled into the parking lot, hopeful that I could find something to eat. I hadn’t had anything to eat other than some breakfast rolls at the hotel the previous morning, so I was getting more than a little hungry. As luck would have it, the store manager had already locked the doors for the night, so I turned away and started walking back to the car in disappointment. Everything was closed the rest of the way home, even the gas stations. I was happily interrupted in those thoughts when the store owner/manager ccalled out to me and invited me into his store. He helped me find a snack to keep me going. When I tried to pay for the food, he refused to accept payment. We had a conversation about his military experiences, and I thanked him very appreciatively before letting him close the store and go home to his family. This event was very much appreciated after the cold shoulder being experienced while in uniform all too often in the Vietnam era. Our commanders often warned us about the personal anti-military attacks we were to expect and how to respond to them without causing disrepute to the service.
On another occasion I was aboard a B-727 TWA flight out of Los Angeles headed eastbound. Budget car rental had given me a problem refusing to rent to military under the age of about 25 with or without a credit card, so I was not too happy with the hassles encountered in this trip. After we were airborne and at cruising altitude, a stewardess (they weren’t addressed as flight attendants yet) came down the aisle and mysteriously asked me to leave my seat and follow her. She led me forward to the First Class seats just aft of the cockpit and put me in one of those seats all by myself. They had fun bringing me some great drinks and a first class meal! The stewardess explained how the captain-pilot had given the order to bring me forward to the First Class seating. The hassles of the trip were quickly forgotten, but the memories of the kindness of that TWA flight crew were never forgotten and much appreciated in the later years when I chose TWA flights in preference to the other airlines.
Although the offer of a First Class upgrade was not repeated, I did run into another unusual situation on a flight out of Los Angeles. My seatmate in Coach Class was an attractive young lady. We were having a good time as we jetted across Arizona and the Sun was setting outside our window. She raised the chair arm separating us, scooted over, and snuggled in real close like a long lost girlfriend happy to be with her boyfriend in uniform. The stewardess assumed we were a couple and treated us as such. After about the fist hour of this trip, she held me tight and went to sleep. After arriving at our destination, we said our goodbyes and made our separate ways to the baggage carousels. As I was walking down the airport concourse, I noticed her overtake me from behind and I was prepared to smile and say hello to her, but never got the opportunity. She went right by me without giving any sign of recognition, which was confusing until a few moments later, when the reason became all too obvious. Ahead of me she jumped into the arms of her husband and hugged her children waiting for her on the concourse.
Military discounts are an honor only when they are not an entitlement. Anyone in the military who thinks they should be entitled to a discount should consider how they dishonor themselves and the service by demanding what former members of the military must sacrifice from their own businesses and families in order to honor those who followed them.