Question about Obama eligibility

vanity | 12/13/2012 | chuckles

[chuckles]

Question,...Is it possible, that we could make some sort of statement, that if Obama is found out to be illegally elected, we could prosecute some of the people that covered up his lies to get him elected?

It's too late to stop anything now, IMHO, but later, investigations could turn up some evidence that may be accepted. To have Arapio say, positively, that Obama's records are fake and no one even looks at it is criminal, in my mind. If some knew we were coming after them no matter how long it takes, maybe someone would crack.

Someone has to sign off on this crap and their name should put them in jeopardy.

If someone stuffed a ballot box, they would go to jail. To me, it's the same thing. If he is not eligible and they knew it, they should be held responsible. Even as an elector, I would make sure my vote was for someone that was eligible. If I tried to plead ignorance, the person that verified he was legal should be held liable. It seems to me ANY elector would have the legal right, and indeed a responsibility to double check any questions before they cast their vote. That's a lot of electors to believe 100% that Obama has a legit Social Security number. It's easy enough to check E-Verify.

[chrisnj]

Obama/soetoro/whatever-his-name-is claimed that his online digital image of bc is a genuine copy of his bc from Hawaii, and that it proves he was born in Hawaii,
but,
a USA sheriff has proven that that very digital image of his bc is forged.

As the owner of the bc he must know it is forged.
Knowing it is forged and using it to mislead Americans into believing it is a genuine authenticated doc is fraudulent -
there is no and or if but to it!!!

The very act of forging a gov doc is a crime!

[chuckles]

...."Some day we will find out that this Muslim was not eligible to be President."....

We already know that from Sheriff Arapio's investigation. The people he used would be accepted in court on a murder case and no one will even look at their results. For me, That makes then co-conspirators.

[Political Junkie Too]

In order to prove any thing “fraudulent”, one must prove that someone intended to mislead.

Maybe Nancy Pelosi's dual certification forms (one for Hawaii, and another for the remaining states) would be a start in proving intent to deceive? Why the two forms when Republicans used the same form in all states? Why did Pelosi drop the phrase "and that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution" from the all but the Hawaii certification?

-PJ

[chuckles]

....." I fully expect an Obama third term."....

I can ASSURE you that won't happen. Stock tip:.......Buy S&W and Ruger. Stay long and don't sell. Better yet, buy leap call options.

[justiceseeker93]

If someone stuffed a ballot box, they would go to jail.

In case you haven't noticed, there was plenty of election fraud and cheating going on on the part of the Democrats in the recent election. Whether you have the same individuals deliberately voting multiple times (aided and abetted by early voting procedures, on might add), people ineligible to vote actually voting or voting under the name of deceased persons, or hacking of electronic vote counting equipment to falsify vote totals, it's all tantamount to the old-fashioned "stuffing ballot boxes," practically speaking. Yet few if any of the perps will be going to jail for it, even in states with Republican governors, secretaries of state, and/or attorneys general. So your statement is false in most cases, regrettably so.

[chuckles]

I’m no lawyer, but I don’t think you can impeach Congressmen and Senators. They can be Censored, but impeachment is for Pres and VP. They can be prosecuted if they allow it themselves. A Congresscritter cannot even be arrested while in session. If Boehner or Pelosi doesn’t allow it, what then?

[Political Junkie Too]

...it's all tantamount to the old-fashioned "stuffing ballot boxes," practically speaking.

This time, it was also "unstuffing" the ballot boxes. There were many reports of Romney voters saying that error messages indicated that their votes were not being saved, but the poll worker told them to ignore the error and that the votes were indeed saved.

Then after the election, we heard about many districts with zero votes for Romney.

People turned out for Romney; it's just that there votes were not counted.

-PJ

[Las Vegas Ron]

Bump to you post.

[Usagi_yo]

"blah blah blah Official Certification of Nomination blah blah blah"

Like I said, legally elected. The documents were deemed satisfactory. He was placed on the ballot of all 50 states, the Electoral Collegiate voted for him, certified by the US Congress and sworn in by the CJSCOTUS.

[itsahoot]

The problems with the “eligibility issue” is that

At least you gave Orly is an idiot a rest.

[servantboy777]

<<Some day we will find out that this Muslim was not eligible to be President.<<

Could it be that this is (was) designed to marginalize the constitution at a later date?

Going out on a limb here, but seems I can hear the progressives now.

“See, we had a foreign born president and America is doing just fine.” Why not allow foreign born folks run for president.

I can hear it now.

[WhiskeyX]

1787-1800

February 5, 1798
To Arrest an Impeached Senator

http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/minute/To_Arrest_An_Impeached_Senator.htm

[Kenny Bunk]

FR since '98, and now you wake up?

Of course the fellow is illegitimate in office and everywhere else. So what? He's the one flying to HI (born there, you know) on AF 1 and living in public housing. It's definitely your problem, but its:

Local Judge of Election's Job
SCOTUS job
State Courts' job
Federal Courts' job
AG or SoS of 50 States' job
Your Congressman's Job
George W. Bush's job
VP Cheney's job
McCain's Job
Romney's Job

Nacho job.
Not Arpaio's job.
Not Donofrio's job.
Not Apuzzo's job.
Definitely not Orly's job.
But thanks. Everyone has done a really nice job, except those whose job it actually is to guarantee constitutional eligibility of candidates. And congrats to you (and me) we have lived through a successful anti-constitutional coup.

Bye-Bye American Pie. But let's not give up when we still have the

Tri-Metallic Option (TMO)
still open to us: i.e., have a goodly supply of Lead, Brass, and Gold on hand at all times and know how to use them.

[WhiskeyX]

Governor Thomas H. Moore, North Dakota, was removed from office for ineligibility shortly after being sworn into office and being certified by the state legislature.

Moore is not the only such example.

Obama can be removed even now by the simple expedient of the Republican Governors ordering the disqualification of their state’s Electors. Without the Electors from the Republican states, the Electoral College will not have the required number of Electors to constitute a Constitutional quorum. In the event the Electoral College lacks a Constitutional quorum, the election of the President reverts t the House of Representatives and the election of the Vice President reverts to the Senate.Under current circumstances, you would likely have a Republican President and a Democrat Vice President in January 203, and Obama would be out of office and out of power.

[justiceseeker93]

This time, it was also "unstuffing" the ballot boxes. There were many reports of Romney voters saying that error messages indicated that their votes were not being saved, but the poll worker told them to ignore the error and that the votes were indeed saved.

Yes, I heard about that in one county in Colorado in the early voting. What other geographical locations had this problem?

You would think that with modern technology, at least a few voters could have taken instant images of those "error message" screens with their iPads or whatever and would have the guts to take formal legal action. But it would seem to me that the RNC, the state and local GOP organizations, and the Romney campaign apparatus were caught sleeping, which is inexplicable in view of the fraud and cheating that had gone on in recent previous elections.

[Behind the Blue Wall]

Unfortunately, the whole thing for those who bother to look is just proof that we don’t have a constitutional republic anymore. We have a democracy, and if there is someone charismatic enough to win over a majority of the population, then they get to rule over us, and they will rule over us in the manner in which they see fit, not that outlined under the Constitution. Sad, but true.

[Phx_RC]

“Someone has to sign off on this crap…”

That is just what the governors of each state will/might/might not do next Monday Dec 17th.

This election is not over - not YET.
We do not have time on our side. This is our LAST chance. Don't give up. We must act now.

If the vote count is FRAUDULENT, FLAWED, and CAN'T BE TRUSTED and
if the Electors have been FRAUDULENTLY allocated based on FLAWED vote counts
then WE CANNOT ALLOW THE GOVERNORS TO SIGN
THEIR CERTIFICATES of ASCERTAINMENT on December 17th.
We can stop this if we ACT IMMEDIATELY.

*** CALL TO ARMS *** FIVE STATE CAPITOLS *** LESS THAN FIVE DAYS LEFT ***
Patriots must rally NOW in the State Capitols of
Harrisburg, PA - Richmond, VA - Tallahassee, FL - Columbus, OH, and Madison, WI
PATRIOT LEADERS ORGANIZE YOUR LOCAL EFFORTS NOW

From Today on
****** MAKE PHONE CALLS CONTINUOUSLY *****
through Sunday December 16th

Help these five Governors understand that they can join together and withhold their
Certificates of Ascertainment and their action will be 100% SUCCESSFUL!
Ask them "Why can't we do this?"

If phone numbers do not appear to the right of each name below then go to http://www.HaltVoterFraud.com

Florida - http://www.dos.state.fl.us
            A.        Governor Rick Scott                    850-488-7146
            B.        Lt. Governor Jennifer Carroll        850-717-9331
            C.        Attorney General Pam Bondi        850-414-3300
            D.        Secretary of State Ken Detzner     850-245-6500

Ohio - http://http://www.governor.ohio.gov   http://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov   http://www.sos.state.oh.us
            A.        Governor John Kasich                   614-466-3555
            B.        Lt. Governor Mary Taylor             614-466-3555
            C.        Attorney General Mike DeWine     614-466-4986
            D.        Secretary of State Jon Husted        614-466-2655

Pennsylvania - http://www.dos.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/department_of_state/12405
            A.        Governor Tom Corbett                    717-787-2500
            B.        Lt. Governor Jim Cawley                 717-787-3300
            C.        Attorney General Paula Kelly            717-787-3391
            D.        Sec. Commonwealth Carol Aichele    717-787-6458

Virginia - http://www.commonwealth.virginia.gov/index.cfm
            A.        Governor Bob McDonnell                        804-786-2211
            B.        Lt. Governor Bill Bowling                        804-786-2078
            C.        AttY. General Kenneth Cuccinelli             804-786-2071
            D.        Sec. Commonwealth Janet Vestal Kelly     804-786-2441

Wisconsin - http://www.sos.state.wi.us/index.html
            A.        Governor Scott Walker                 608-266-1212
            B.        Lt. Governor Rebecca Kleefisch    608-266-3516
            C.        Atty. General J.B. Van Hollen        608-266-1221
            D.        Sec. of State Doug La Follette        608-266-3159

We can make HISTORY by fighting for our rights - protecting the integrity of our sacred vote.
The Governor's combined action will withhold enough EC votes so that
neither candidate will have the minimum required to win the Presidency.
Therefore, the U. S. House of Representatives will elect the President
We can save our Republic and PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF OUR VOTE.
Every single LEGAL vote (Especially the MILITARY votes) must be counted. "Chicago Style" thuggery must not be accepted, our leadership must not capitulate on this.

[Political Junkie Too]

This story is about Chicago: HERE'S HOW TOUCHSCREENS KILLED ROMNEY VOTES. WHAT THE MACHINE EXPERT CLAIMS.

-PJ

[Hotlanta Mike]

There was even the son who was working for his father Jim Moran’s re-election campaign (the same one who crushed the skull of his girlfriend) that was caught on video explaining how to commit voter fraud before the election.

[butterdezillion]

You don’t get it. According to Hawaii law, what they’ve got has ZERO legal value and NEVER CAN have any legal value, without first being presented as evidence to a judicial or administrative person or body and having the probative value determined. Without seeing the actual complete record, there is not a soul on earth who can LAWFULLY claim Obama is eligible for anything.

IOW, if some SOS, Chief Justice, etc claims that Obama actually is eligible - without first going through the legal process to determine his actual birth facts - they are violating the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the US Constitution. They are overstepping the bounds of Hawaii law and thus overstepping the bounds of the US Constitution. The legal presumption is for regularity - that is, that the routine disclosure by Onaka was done in compliance with the law and Obama thus has no legally-established birth facts - without which he CANNOT “qualify” as required by the 20th Amendment of the Constitution

That means that the entire election was fraudulent - in 2008 and in 2012. The whole thing. Even without all the actual voter fraud that took place.