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CT Shooting- MNSBC playing up gun control minutes after shooting

Posted on 12/14/2012 11:13:06 AM PST by Red in Blue PA

Turned on MSNBC for awhile and Andrea Mitchell talked for some time about gun control. She even had someone from the Brady Campaign on very quick. So quick one must think that they are ready to take advantage of these types of shootings.

I cannot verbalize my contempt for that channel.


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1 posted on 12/14/2012 11:13:14 AM PST by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

First friend just went on their idiotic rant on Facebook. Of course, our side has more class than to jump into this debate in the middle of a tragedy.

Do these people not think it odd that ALL these shootings happen in ‘gun free’ zones?


2 posted on 12/14/2012 11:14:56 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: ilgipper
Do these people not think it odd that ALL these shootings happen in ‘gun free’ zones?

Facts never enter into the debate when the Anti's are talking. Facts are anathema to them.
3 posted on 12/14/2012 11:18:22 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I was channel surfing and the first time I saw anything, I stopped and like everyone else was saddened. One of the first things the news reader said was they had contacted the White House and they told them this was not the time to talk about gun control.

I was astounded. Obama actually had more class than they did.


4 posted on 12/14/2012 11:19:55 AM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
How about an alternate meme: If the teachers had only been armed, this would’t have happened.
5 posted on 12/14/2012 11:20:51 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Red in Blue PA

It seems to me that whenever a building explodes somewhere in the US, as the newspeople hop in their cars to get to the scene, the first thing they say is, “We don’t know much yet, but we can say that this is not terrorism-related.”


6 posted on 12/14/2012 11:21:02 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Republicans have made themselves useless, toothless, and clueless.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
“...playing up gun control minutes after shooting...”

Expect a full court press on this one...irrespective of the circumstances and altogether apart from the facts!

7 posted on 12/14/2012 11:21:30 AM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Unexpected surprise.


8 posted on 12/14/2012 11:21:43 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: yarddog
they had contacted the White House and they told them this was not the time to talk about gun control.

Give him a few hours.....he is probably working on his script now.
9 posted on 12/14/2012 11:25:56 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

May the unrepentant 2nd Amendment traitors, especially the leftstream media anti-gun advocates and legislators who took away the right of school administrators and teachers to defend their students, burn twice as long in hell as the piece of excrement that committed these murders.


10 posted on 12/14/2012 11:28:59 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: Red in Blue PA

It never takes the carrion feeders long to show up and resume shrieking to obliterate the right of the people to keep and bear arms.


11 posted on 12/14/2012 11:29:18 AM PST by Standing Wolf
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To: Truth29

Bingo! The best defense would be armed citizens/teachers who could fight back.

I would ask the left (or anyone) to show me one instance where having unarmed people helped the situation when a shooting took place.

We always hear that people might get his by the crossfire.....so a full-out slaughter is better????

Leftist “logic”.....never makes sense.


12 posted on 12/14/2012 11:30:47 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Special kind of hypocrisy from MSM and libs:

18 children dead = massive tragedy, need discussions on national level, new federal gun control laws, activism groups, marches & constitutional amendments.

1.3 million children dead = woman’s unalienable right to choose.


13 posted on 12/14/2012 11:31:27 AM PST by Ironfocus
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To: Red in Blue PA

That’s the Mostly Socialist National Bull Spewing Channel at it’s best.


14 posted on 12/14/2012 11:34:12 AM PST by BerserkPatriot (Why is the Democratic National Socialist Committee waging a War on liberty?)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Facts never enter into the debate when the Anti's are talking. Facts are anathema to them.

Yep, it's all feeeeeelings with them. I just had a friend tell me that 99% of shootings are committed by licensed gun owners, with is patently untrue. I provided irrefutable evidence to the contrary.....not surprisingly, to on avail. They choose to believe otherwise.

15 posted on 12/14/2012 11:35:31 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Red in Blue PA

yes, panic the firearms market- that’ll help decrease the number of guns on the street. Just look how well it’s worked for the past 20n years.


16 posted on 12/14/2012 11:39:27 AM PST by RC one (Akin/Mourdock-2016)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Meanwhile it seems all reference to how this deranged lunatic was stopped has been omitted from reports.

Instead they simply say he's dead - no details.

17 posted on 12/14/2012 11:42:08 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Red in Blue PA

Earlier this week, I was over in DU and there was a thread about that Fox News Correspondent who had gotten beat up by union thugs in Michigan. At least 80 percent of the comments in the thread were along the lines of “he deserved it” and “it’s about time we fought back.”

In short, the DUers are saying violence is justified in their cause. This is one of the many reasons I will never support gun control. What if people like the DUers got to run the country they way wanted to? History has shown a determined group representing a minority of the population can rise to power sometimes.


18 posted on 12/14/2012 11:47:14 AM PST by Our man in washington
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38 kids were killed in the Bath Michigan massacre in 1927.....wonder if MSNBC will address this tonight? Guns are not the issue.....psychopaths are. The Bath School disaster is the name given to three bombings in Bath Township, Michigan, on May 18, 1927, which killed 38 elementary school children, two teachers, four other adults and the bomber himself; at least 58 people were injured. Most of the victims were children in the second to sixth grades (7–11 years of age [1]) attending the Bath Consolidated School. Their deaths constitute the deadliest mass murder in a school in U.S. history and the fourth-deadliest massacre in U.S. history, behind the Oklahoma City bombing, the Mountain Meadows massacre and 9/11. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster
19 posted on 12/14/2012 11:47:28 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
playing up gun control minutes after shooting

What about knife control:
Knife attack at Chinese school wounds 22 children
20 posted on 12/14/2012 11:57:35 AM PST by caveat emptor
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To: Puppage

You’re pals with Bob Costas?


21 posted on 12/14/2012 12:05:51 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Interesting the number of people committing a mass murder usually kill their kin first.

Charles Whitman killed his mother with a bayonet before he went to the Texas Tower.

Kip Kinkel murdered his parents, then shot up a school.

Ronald Gene Simmons strangled half his family and shot the rest.

Others like Patrick Purdy had no kin left when they shot up the Stockton school yard.

It is as if they are suicidal but just can't pull the trigger on themselves until they take what they consider to be vengeance on everyone else for being alive and perceived happy.

Other school massacres..

1755, the Pennsylvania School house massacre, the entire school killed.

1813 Massacre of the Ft Dearborne Children, an entire generation of children murdered by one man with a hand ax.

22 posted on 12/14/2012 12:05:51 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (SAVE THE SUMATRAN RAT MONKEY!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

That’s the only way they can get ratings by attacking guns.


23 posted on 12/14/2012 12:06:01 PM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Too bad the schools don’t hire armed retired cops as security guards. Of course they have to be politicall correct, otherwise an armed teacher might have avoided sucha a catastrophe.
Anybody knwo if the PD was on the scene while the shooting was going on? How did the killer die?


24 posted on 12/14/2012 12:09:39 PM PST by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: kenmcg
Anybody knwo if the PD was on the scene while the shooting was going on? How did the killer die?

I believe it was self-inflicted.
25 posted on 12/14/2012 12:10:55 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The gun control mantra will be deafening due to this. And, I’m going to predict we will see some new federal (as well state) gun laws because of this. They will be ineffecctive feel-good laws based on emotions of the day.

I’ve given this a lot of serious thought and I just can’t think of any rational laws, new or in place, that could stop the mentally deranged from these acts.


26 posted on 12/14/2012 12:13:28 PM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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I would like to know if these guns were stolen like the recent mall shooting out west.


27 posted on 12/14/2012 12:17:31 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I have a bad feeling this is going to be the event that motivates American voters to talk about serious gun control in this country. Now might be a really good time to make some purchases if you haven’t already.


28 posted on 12/14/2012 12:18:00 PM PST by Drew68
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To: ilgipper
This is where I say, screw the "gunz" and where he got them,
I want to know:

WHAT EFFIN PRESCRIPTION DRUGZ WAS HE ON??

29 posted on 12/14/2012 12:22:05 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Local radio show in KC, where one of the hosts claims, “I support the 2nd Amendment, but...”

Get ready for yet another attack on our rights. This one’s gonna be a doozy!

Mark


30 posted on 12/14/2012 12:31:13 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: yarddog
I was astounded. Obama actually had more class than they did.

You spoke too soon. obama just had a made a public statement and hinted about doing "something" about all the shootings that have been happening.

31 posted on 12/14/2012 12:31:39 PM PST by painter (Obamahood,"Steal from the working people and give to the worthless.")
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To: Red in Blue PA
Here it comes.

I stand by my previous prediction here on FR:

Having successfully implemented universal health care, something that no other progressive (read: communist) president had been able to accomplish, Obama is feeling invincible (and rightly so).

Next on his legacy wish list is gun control. He won't aim for any penny-ante assault weapons ban, either. He will aim much higher. Look for an all-out attack on the second amendment.

32 posted on 12/14/2012 12:36:08 PM PST by Washi (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: umgud; marktwain; Travis McGee; TPartyType

Each state has an enormous amount of power over the possession and use of firearms and other weapons; the 2nd Amendment left that power to the states.

A state can require that all weapons that the state classifies as suitable for military use, be stored in state armories that are typically scattered across a state, county by county.

It won’t surprise, to see some states now pass legislation requiring such storage.

One plus side of that, is that the armories become the honeypot for the Crown’s (currently the leftist dictatorship in waiting of Obama’s) ambitions; and as a honeypot, should the nationalizing forces of the left, move against the armories, then the people will know that the established threshold has been crossed.

As it was first in 1774 during the Powder Alarm.

So, you get to keep a “personal sidearm” and your hunting rifle and shotgun, but the rest of your “toys” are stored at the armory.

The NRA would probably campaign to have some part in that development.

This is just a possibility; but I have been expecting it for some time - I suspect it is more a probability now.

In addition to, some legislatures requiring a return to militia assembly and training, in order to re-establish what was once relatively common practice.


33 posted on 12/14/2012 12:37:05 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Have there been more random shootings lately?
Is it to give the anti-gunners more ammunition?

34 posted on 12/14/2012 12:37:59 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Gun control? How about public school control, instead. When was the last time we read about a mass school slaying in a private or home school setting, where they don’t herd children together and treat them as glorified apes?


35 posted on 12/14/2012 12:42:29 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (double trouble, here we come)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Contrived horror to destroy the Second Amendment for law abiding citizens?

Operation aghast and spurious.

36 posted on 12/14/2012 12:43:01 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
If guns were the issue which led to violence, then we would be seeing shootings at gun shows and gun ranged.
37 posted on 12/14/2012 12:49:29 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Somewhere on http://www.sfgate.com/news/articleComments/Source-29-dead-including-22-children-in-Newtown-4118505.php :
clen 12:18 PM on December 14, 2012

So this is what the founding fathers had in mind? When will someone have the guts to stand up to the NRA. I wish someone would open fire at their next convention, in the name of the Second Amendment.

This comment has received 9 thumbs up and 3 thumbs down. Civility!

38 posted on 12/14/2012 12:52:17 PM PST by Lonely Bull
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Just checked, and the comment’s been removed, but not before it got 9 thumbs up and only 3 thumbs down—probably not from self-described trolls but from many of the right-thinking people who’ve been spewing about “the NRA.”


39 posted on 12/14/2012 12:57:37 PM PST by Lonely Bull
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To: Drew68
Now might be a really good time to make some purchases if you haven’t already.

Off the "grid."

40 posted on 12/14/2012 1:05:44 PM PST by painter (Obamahood,"Steal from the working people and give to the worthless.")
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To: ilgipper

How would the public know that, if the media doesn’t report it. Many Americans are sheep following the liberal media’s bias agenda to get firearms banned.

Murder is illegal. Carrying a firearm in that school area was illegal. Discharging a firearm there is illegal. Does anyone really think that another law or ban is going to help?

Does anyone ever wonder if these may be muslim extremists/converts trying to fight their jihad on american soil and the media not wanting to upset the public with a possible terrorist attack story? After all Mr. Obama says that things are getting better with our muslim “friends” in the middle east, right?


41 posted on 12/14/2012 1:07:10 PM PST by Jammz ("The only thing needed for evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing.")
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To: Red in Blue PA

The Bolshie “reporters” have their anti-gun hacks on speed dial.


42 posted on 12/14/2012 1:09:42 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Lonely Bull
More from those comments:
peterepeat 11:57 AM on December 14, 2012

I think this country has hit a new low with the sensless killing of so many innocent children. At what point do people stop defending the right to bear arms? This world would be a safer place and there would be less mass killings if guns ownership was made illegal. I wonder how the sicko NRA is going to spin this story.

I highlighted that one because of the middle two sentences. Rarely do they wind up striking so close to the Bill of Rights, or whatever that hoary old thing is called.

snarkk 11:53 AM on December 14, 2012

As a parent, I am very torn by the photo published of this young mother. On the one hand, I don't want her private anguish violated. On the other, I want all the guns rights advocates, Wayne LaPierre and his NRA crazies, and all the politicians who take blood money from the NRA and block gun control legislation and more money for mental health programs to look at this photo. This is YOUR doing. This is the reality of your sick, evil gun promoting culture...

It's interesting here to see the whiplash between the first part and the second. In other words, somewhere inside, you do want her private anguish to be violated. It's so handy!

EqualRights 12:40 PM on December 14, 2012

22 first graders are dead. And all the hyper-partisan hacks can do is whine about Obama.

That's where their priorities are, I guess.

That first sentence comes from one of the best hyper-partisan hacks in this comments section.

Girl_inthe_Curl 12:59 PM on December 14, 2012

And here the Tea Party Anti-Patriots are worried about the UN Agenda 21, a completely bogus scenario dreamed up by Karl Rove and his cronies to scare people into buying MORE guns, sick and sad people…

Oh, I'd love to see "EqualRights"'s response to this comment.

43 posted on 12/14/2012 1:19:11 PM PST by Lonely Bull
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To: Red in Blue PA

Jared Lee Loughner (Tucson,AZ) - 23 yo white male.

Adam Lanza (Newtown, CT- 20 yo white male

James Eagan Holmes (Aurora, CO) - 24 yo white male.

Jacob Tyler Roberts (Oregon) - 22 yo white male

Eric David Harris (Colulumbine, CO) - 19 yo white male

Dylan Bennet Klebold (Columbine, CO) - 17 yo white male

Anyone detect a pattern here? It’s time to check these shooters’ medical histories for psychotropic drugs.


44 posted on 12/14/2012 1:20:49 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Never let a tragedy go to waste. To Liberals, everything is political.


45 posted on 12/14/2012 1:49:00 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Here's the communists' big opportunity to twist emotions and get their long-awaited gun people control measures rammed through. With the help of their lapdog media goons, of course. Quick, quick! Before the blood is cold!

Ghoulish bastards.

46 posted on 12/14/2012 2:13:56 PM PST by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: Red in Blue PA; painter

You are right, I was way off.

Obama is showing no class at all. He just had not had time to come up with a speech.


47 posted on 12/14/2012 2:34:13 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: yarddog

“He just had not had time to come up with a speech.”

I’ll disagree. FUBO probably has a stack of canned speeches just waiting for these occasions. Like a using a generic form, all he has to do is fill in the blanks. He is just waiting a while to not appear so opportunistic. He is a cold calculating bass turd.


48 posted on 12/14/2012 2:49:47 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: yarddog

The teleprompter has an app for that.


49 posted on 12/14/2012 4:01:26 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Lonely Bull

If someone did open fire there, they would be gunned down tout suite! Probably the best example of the 2A in action!


50 posted on 12/14/2012 4:02:36 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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