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If everyone can go to college then you have to dumb down college. If you don't have to read or study then you can sleep late and party late. Then wonder why you can't get hired?.... [ H/T maggiesfarm.com ]
1 posted on 12/14/2012 1:02:50 PM PST by virgil283
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To: virgil283

I work at a university.

It would be impossible to overstate how immature and idiotic most of the students are.


2 posted on 12/14/2012 1:13:35 PM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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They spend six or seven years partying on student loans then they get out and become angry Occupiers pissed that they can’t find a job and demanding our money to pay their loans.

Another day in Obamaland. :)


3 posted on 12/14/2012 1:18:22 PM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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I remember them telling us in orientation that for every hour of class we should expect to spend two hours on homework. I had to laugh. I knew it was BS. I didn’t even buy books a couple of semesters. Because the college textbook industry is a racket, but mostly because it they were unnecessary.

College is a joke. It is nothing more than pretend adult/desperately hanging on to childhood time.


4 posted on 12/14/2012 1:30:24 PM PST by Tublecane
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Like Chef said, there’s a time and a place for everything, and that’s college. It’s the combination of life factors, take a bunch of young healthy people at their most attractive and most hormonal with the least amount common sense they’ll have in their lives and no adult supervision there’s really only one thing that will happen.


5 posted on 12/14/2012 1:36:21 PM PST by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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From the article: No one expects American undergraduates to work as hard as Isaac Newton or as medieval monks.


Why the heck not?
6 posted on 12/14/2012 1:52:25 PM PST by needmorePaine
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To: virgil283

Interesting article. I had a good cross section of students and the non-traditional students, the ones who are older, commute to campus are much more serious about their work when teaching at the university.

Looking back on my undergraduate days, I worked on my degree from the Fall of 1985 to Winter 1989. I went to a private Methodist university in Southern Indiana which at the time was mostly composed of students who live nearby like from KY, Southern IN and Southern IL. Compared to like IU or Purdue, it was mostly a suitcase campus but it changed a lot. I visited there last Spring when I was on my Spring Break and hung around. Really enjoy the visit and plan to visit next Spring. The campus has much more activities on weekends today versus back when I was a student.

With my undergraduate college, what I remember back in the day and reading the history, here is the following changes

Before my time


- 1973, they repealed the dress code. Before, you were expected to do something like business casual to class and the dining hall
- Attend chapel services
- curfew and needing permission to leave for the weekend
- punishment on campus for off campus misbehavior
- campus was dry

When I was a student in the 1980’s


- There were visiting hours in the dorms and the latest you can stay was like 2am
- campus then and now is dry including the fraternity houses. More so on the Greeks where as back in my time, they kind of looked the other way
- homosexuality was in the closet where it should be
- campus minded its business concerning off campus misbehavior
- campus was dry

Today


- there is 24 hour visitation
- homosexuality is much more accepted, unfortunately
- campus punishment for off campus misbehavior has come back. Get arrested for like a DUI somewhere else, expect to be called in for a meeting with the Dean
- campus is STILL dry


7 posted on 12/14/2012 1:57:56 PM PST by CORedneck
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When Isaac Newton went to the University of Cambridge several centuries ago, he studied seven days a week, at least ten hours a day,

When I went to college, I spent 16-18 hours per day either in class, studying, or attending to other obligations, 6 days a week.

There were many others like me.

8 posted on 12/14/2012 2:01:36 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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I went to GA Southern, which was always voted one of the top 10 Party Schools. And yes, I did my share of partying.

But I also made Dean's List.

11 posted on 12/14/2012 3:41:59 PM PST by real saxophonist (Looking for the joke with a microscope)
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The author is apparently decrying the fun culture at college as if it were something new. Yet, in his first sentence, and actively avoided the revelry that some Cambridge undergraduates engaged in even then he shows that Newton was an exception rather than the rule. What were the percentages of students involved in the partying back then? We can't know this. The author lists the total as "some". However, I suspect that the percentage was similar.
12 posted on 12/14/2012 4:15:05 PM PST by Jemian
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“If a female student wishes to party on a Thursday evening, get drunk, and sleep through her Friday classes, nothing except her own conscience prevents her from doing so. This freedom enables many students to pursue “fun” relentlessly during the academic year.”

Hence the reason that I kept my kids at home during their college years. If I’m going to pay those kinds of bucks, then I’m going to get some (i.e., a lot) of accountability in return. I realize that other parents may prefer to simply roll the dice, but that’s their problem, not mine.


13 posted on 12/14/2012 4:21:59 PM PST by BobL (Did you know that the Chinese now buy close to twice as many new cars as Americans each year?)
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