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(Vanity) Live press conference by CT State Police

Posted on 12/14/2012 2:10:06 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT

Says one shooter, tentatively has IDed him, will not give the name. He was pronounced dead at scene.

Does not mention any 2nd person found in woods wearing camo.

Live presser on local TV, LT Vance.


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1 posted on 12/14/2012 2:10:13 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Probably not a good time to be the camo-wearing guy living in the woods near the school.


2 posted on 12/14/2012 2:12:13 PM PST by Rinnwald
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He does not have info yet on the 2nd crime scene at the Lanza house in Newtown. Only 1 survivor who was injured and survived.

21 children dead
6 dead adults

press says Adam Lanza is shooter, age 20.
Ryan Lanza, age 24, being questioned in NJ
There is a dead person at the Lanza home in Newtown. Another brother?


3 posted on 12/14/2012 2:16:52 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (campaigned for local conservatives only)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Anyone else dead in Hoboken? Father, girlfriend?
Thank you for the thread post.


4 posted on 12/14/2012 2:19:09 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Just read an update that the shooter was carrying his brothers ID. According to the article the brother had nothing to do with what happened.
(Previously I read a second shooter had been arrest)


5 posted on 12/14/2012 2:21:14 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Now they’re saying Ryan had nothing to do with it, that Adam was the lone shooter and was autistic with a personality disorder. 21 kids, autistic my ass, he was a demon from hell.


6 posted on 12/14/2012 2:24:25 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: NEMDF

the father is dead in NJ, but obviously CT state police are not involved in that. Brother is being questioned by FBI in NJ as are roommates in NJ.

We assume the killer lived in CT with mother, Nancy Lanza the teacher, in Newtown.
The “girlfriend” is part of the NJ investigation. The police still are searching the neighborhood near the school.

The exits off the interstate are closed.


7 posted on 12/14/2012 2:27:18 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (campaigned for local conservatives only)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Now they’re saying Ryan had nothing to do with it, that Adam was the lone shooter ...

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That’s not what they were saying an hour ago. And in another hour, they’ll probably be reporting new “facts”.

One thing is for sure: Libs are going to be howling for revoking the Second and removing all guns from all Americans.


8 posted on 12/14/2012 2:40:33 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“One thing is for sure: Libs are going to be howling for revoking the Second and removing all guns from all Americans”

Bloomberg has already issued a statement, as could be predicted.

I looked into CT gun laws. To buy, you have to go through a safety course. Even to open carry you need a permit. Wanna bet this shooter did neither. I don’t know why Bloomberg types believe psychopaths would obey new gun laws, while ignoring the old ones.


9 posted on 12/14/2012 2:46:32 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT
There is a dead person at the Lanza home in Newtown. Another brother?

I heard it *might* be his father.

10 posted on 12/14/2012 2:49:00 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Do you live in that area? My husband’s family is mostly in CT. I am so sorry for your loss, having this experience inflicted on you and yours. I work near the Westroads Mall, where a crazy young man shot, killed shoppers 5 years ago. The community grief was so deep for so long. But there were not as many deaths as you are facing, no little children. OMG. I can barely keep any composure today.


11 posted on 12/14/2012 2:52:54 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: Responsibility2nd

The gun belonged to his mother.


12 posted on 12/14/2012 2:52:54 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

the mother, the teacher, was found dead at home. Not at the school.

This being reported by local TV.
The father lived in NJ and was found dead there (?) Have not heard much about him in a few hours.

http://www.examiner.com/article/report-mom-s-body-found-home-of-adam-lanza-suspected-connecticut-shooter

Adam Lanza apparently lived with his mother in Newtown.


13 posted on 12/14/2012 3:21:08 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (campaigned for local conservatives only)
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To: campaignPete R-CT
So that's the 2nd crime scene - the mother at home

Actually there is a third crime scene - NJ

The father lived in NJ and was found dead there

Yes and Adam lived w/him. I think the facts are getting mixed up,

Adam Lanza apparently lived with his mother in Newtown.

They are checking his apt in NJ now.

14 posted on 12/14/2012 3:33:12 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: campaignPete R-CT

And it was his mother’s kindergarten class. The killer went that school, also. They mentioned they think he had a problem with his mother.

He has a girlfriend and drives and labeled autistic?


15 posted on 12/14/2012 3:41:01 PM PST by presently no screen name
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the press here is reporting Adam lived in newtown with his mother. The Apt they are checking is Ryan Lanza’s apartment.


16 posted on 12/14/2012 3:44:07 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (campaigned for local conservatives only)
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Every mass murderer has to be labeled with a mental malady.

There can be no plain evil people.


17 posted on 12/14/2012 3:53:58 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

On his Facebook page, Ryan Lanza posted an update that read, “it wasn’t me… I was at work.”

But the killer living at home I can believe. Doubt the brother could put up w/him.


18 posted on 12/14/2012 4:24:27 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Responsibility2nd
One thing is for sure: Libs are going to be howling for revoking the Second...

Change that to "are howling right now"...

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/14/Bloomberg-politicizes-shooting

BLOOMBERG: OBAMA MUST TAKE 'IMMEDIATE ACTION' AGAINST GUNS

Today, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, an ardent gun control advocate, moved to politicize the monstrous school shooting in Connecticut, issuing the following statement:

With all the carnage from gun violence in our country, it’s still almost impossible to believe that a mass shooting in a kindergarten class could happen. It has come to that. Not even kindergarteners learning their A,B,Cs are safe. We heard after Columbine that it was too soon to talk about gun laws. We heard it after Virginia Tech. After Tucson and Aurora and Oak Creek. And now we are hearing it again. For every day we wait, 34 more people are murdered with guns. Today, many of them were five-year olds. President Obama rightly sent his heartfelt condolences to the families in Newtown. But the country needs him to send a bill to Congress to fix this problem. Calling for ‘meaningful action’ is not enough. We need immediate action. We have heard all the rhetoric before. What we have not seen is leadership – not from the White House and not from Congress. That must end today. This is a national tragedy and it demands a national response. My deepest sympathies are with the families of all those affected, and my determination to stop this madness is stronger than ever.

If Bloomberg’s deepest sympathies were with the family, he wouldn’t use this as an opportunity to get on his soapbox about gun control. We don’t know all the facts of the case yet, Connecticut has some of the most restrictive gun control laws in the country, and it seems that the shooter obtained his guns legally.

19 posted on 12/14/2012 4:25:50 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: TurboZamboni

Sure seems that way.


20 posted on 12/14/2012 4:28:32 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
If Bloomberg’s deepest sympathies were with the family, he wouldn’t use this as an opportunity to get on his soapbox about gun control.

Anytime he feels people are watching news anywhere in the nation - there is bloomberg putting himself into it. He is so needy for some creditability yet doesn't even know all the facts in this case.

21 posted on 12/14/2012 4:34:31 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

The most dangerous place ANYONE can be is between Bloomturd or Shroomer and a TV camera after a murder spree.


22 posted on 12/14/2012 4:39:08 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: presently no screen name

they lived in different states

Ryan said he hasn’t spoken to his brother in 2 years. he did not know about his brother’s involvement when he was posting on facebook.


23 posted on 12/14/2012 4:52:50 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (campaigned for local conservatives only)
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To: presently no screen name

“He has a girlfriend and drives and labeled autistic?”

I believe it was reported (earlier here on FR) that the brother (Ryan) had said that he (Adam) had a “developmental disorder” and I also recall something called “Asperger’s” being mentioned.

A google of “Asperger” led to this URL:
http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/mental-health-aspergers-syndrome
…. which provides a detailed (2 pages) but easily read explanation of what that is, which seems to be related -remotely- to autism but in which the person may be quite functional, even moreso than someone with autism (specifically).

If that’s the case, Adam was probably reasonably able to drive, etc.

Again, he may have experienced “developmental” problems earlier on, but he seemed quite able to plan this and execute it.

Still a lot to be learned here. I sense it will be a few days before the whole story can be pieced together into a “followable timeline”.


24 posted on 12/14/2012 4:58:08 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

The first group are the Eccentric Personality Disorders. These people often appear strange or peculiar to others.

1.Paranoid Personality Disorder – individual generally tends to interpret the actions of others as threatening.

2.Schizoid Personality Disorder – individual generally detached from social relationships, and shows a narrow range of emotional expression in various social settings.

3.Schizotypal Personality Disorder – individual is uncomfortable in close relationships, has thought or perceptual distortions, and peculiarities of behavior.

The second group are the Dramatic Personality Disorders. These people have intense emotional mood swings and distorted perceptions of themselves and impulsive behaviours.

1.Antisocial Personality Disorder – individual shows a pervasive disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others.

2.Borderline Personality Disorder – individual shows a generalized pattern of instability in interpersonal relationships, self-image, and observable emotions, and significant impulsiveness.

3.Histrionic Personality Disorder - individual often displays excessive emotionality and attention seeking in various contexts. They tend to overreact to other people, and are often perceived as shallow and self-centered.

4.Narcissistic Personality Disorder – individual has a grandiose view of themselves, a need for admiration, and a lack of empathy that begins by early adulthood and is present in various situations. These individuals are very demanding in their relationships.

The third group are the Anxious Personality Disorders. These people are often fearful and anxious of one or many things.

1.Avoidant Personality Disorder – individual is socially inhibited, feels inadequate, and is oversensitive to criticism

2.Dependent Personality Disorder – individual shows an extreme need to be taken care of that leads to fears of separation, and passive and clinging behavior.

3.Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder – individual is preoccupied with orderliness, perfectionism, and control at the expense of flexibility, openness, and efficiency.


25 posted on 12/14/2012 4:58:21 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Sociopaths are demons from hell.


26 posted on 12/14/2012 4:59:08 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: svcw

A twenty-year-old—perhaps using his brother’s ID to get into bars?


27 posted on 12/14/2012 5:00:08 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Road Glide

Thank you. That makes more sense - that it may be Asperger’s.


28 posted on 12/14/2012 5:18:53 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Road Glide
Asbergers, like autism, has a huge range of abilities....from college material genius types to very disabled, very delayed.....

but we always have to have a label on people...like its some kind of explanation...

there is NO explanation for what happened...NONE.....

29 posted on 12/14/2012 5:34:39 PM PST by cherry
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like its some kind of explanation...

I don't think it was meant as an explanation. It's just info the brother offered. The police ask for whatever he knows about his brother.

30 posted on 12/14/2012 5:48:01 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Chickensoup

That’s exactly why we will never come up with a computer that matches the human brain because soooo many things can go wrong. We have intellect but at the price of instability. There are sooooo so so so so so many people I know that match all those symptoms you listed.


31 posted on 12/14/2012 9:05:03 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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