Skip to comments.(Vanity) Live press conference by CT State Police
Posted on 12/14/2012 2:10:06 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT
Says one shooter, tentatively has IDed him, will not give the name. He was pronounced dead at scene.
Does not mention any 2nd person found in woods wearing camo.
Live presser on local TV, LT Vance.
Probably not a good time to be the camo-wearing guy living in the woods near the school.
He does not have info yet on the 2nd crime scene at the Lanza house in Newtown. Only 1 survivor who was injured and survived.
21 children dead
6 dead adults
press says Adam Lanza is shooter, age 20.
Ryan Lanza, age 24, being questioned in NJ
There is a dead person at the Lanza home in Newtown. Another brother?
Anyone else dead in Hoboken? Father, girlfriend?
Thank you for the thread post.
Just read an update that the shooter was carrying his brothers ID. According to the article the brother had nothing to do with what happened.
(Previously I read a second shooter had been arrest)
Now they’re saying Ryan had nothing to do with it, that Adam was the lone shooter and was autistic with a personality disorder. 21 kids, autistic my ass, he was a demon from hell.
the father is dead in NJ, but obviously CT state police are not involved in that. Brother is being questioned by FBI in NJ as are roommates in NJ.
We assume the killer lived in CT with mother, Nancy Lanza the teacher, in Newtown.
The “girlfriend” is part of the NJ investigation. The police still are searching the neighborhood near the school.
The exits off the interstate are closed.
Now theyre saying Ryan had nothing to do with it, that Adam was the lone shooter ...
That’s not what they were saying an hour ago. And in another hour, they’ll probably be reporting new “facts”.
One thing is for sure: Libs are going to be howling for revoking the Second and removing all guns from all Americans.
“One thing is for sure: Libs are going to be howling for revoking the Second and removing all guns from all Americans”
Bloomberg has already issued a statement, as could be predicted.
I looked into CT gun laws. To buy, you have to go through a safety course. Even to open carry you need a permit. Wanna bet this shooter did neither. I don’t know why Bloomberg types believe psychopaths would obey new gun laws, while ignoring the old ones.
I heard it *might* be his father.
Do you live in that area? My husband’s family is mostly in CT. I am so sorry for your loss, having this experience inflicted on you and yours. I work near the Westroads Mall, where a crazy young man shot, killed shoppers 5 years ago. The community grief was so deep for so long. But there were not as many deaths as you are facing, no little children. OMG. I can barely keep any composure today.
The gun belonged to his mother.
the mother, the teacher, was found dead at home. Not at the school.
This being reported by local TV.
The father lived in NJ and was found dead there (?) Have not heard much about him in a few hours.
Adam Lanza apparently lived with his mother in Newtown.
Actually there is a third crime scene - NJ
The father lived in NJ and was found dead there
Yes and Adam lived w/him. I think the facts are getting mixed up,
Adam Lanza apparently lived with his mother in Newtown.
They are checking his apt in NJ now.
And it was his mother’s kindergarten class. The killer went that school, also. They mentioned they think he had a problem with his mother.
He has a girlfriend and drives and labeled autistic?
the press here is reporting Adam lived in newtown with his mother. The Apt they are checking is Ryan Lanza’s apartment.
Every mass murderer has to be labeled with a mental malady.
There can be no plain evil people.
On his Facebook page, Ryan Lanza posted an update that read, it wasnt me I was at work.
But the killer living at home I can believe. Doubt the brother could put up w/him.
Change that to "are howling right now"...
BLOOMBERG: OBAMA MUST TAKE 'IMMEDIATE ACTION' AGAINST GUNS
Today, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, an ardent gun control advocate, moved to politicize the monstrous school shooting in Connecticut, issuing the following statement:
With all the carnage from gun violence in our country, its still almost impossible to believe that a mass shooting in a kindergarten class could happen. It has come to that. Not even kindergarteners learning their A,B,Cs are safe. We heard after Columbine that it was too soon to talk about gun laws. We heard it after Virginia Tech. After Tucson and Aurora and Oak Creek. And now we are hearing it again. For every day we wait, 34 more people are murdered with guns. Today, many of them were five-year olds. President Obama rightly sent his heartfelt condolences to the families in Newtown. But the country needs him to send a bill to Congress to fix this problem. Calling for meaningful action is not enough. We need immediate action. We have heard all the rhetoric before. What we have not seen is leadership not from the White House and not from Congress. That must end today. This is a national tragedy and it demands a national response. My deepest sympathies are with the families of all those affected, and my determination to stop this madness is stronger than ever.
If Bloombergs deepest sympathies were with the family, he wouldnt use this as an opportunity to get on his soapbox about gun control. We dont know all the facts of the case yet, Connecticut has some of the most restrictive gun control laws in the country, and it seems that the shooter obtained his guns legally.
Sure seems that way.
Anytime he feels people are watching news anywhere in the nation - there is bloomberg putting himself into it. He is so needy for some creditability yet doesn't even know all the facts in this case.
The most dangerous place ANYONE can be is between Bloomturd or Shroomer and a TV camera after a murder spree.
they lived in different states
Ryan said he hasn’t spoken to his brother in 2 years. he did not know about his brother’s involvement when he was posting on facebook.
“He has a girlfriend and drives and labeled autistic?”
I believe it was reported (earlier here on FR) that the brother (Ryan) had said that he (Adam) had a “developmental disorder” and I also recall something called “Asperger’s” being mentioned.
A google of “Asperger” led to this URL:
. which provides a detailed (2 pages) but easily read explanation of what that is, which seems to be related -remotely- to autism but in which the person may be quite functional, even moreso than someone with autism (specifically).
If that’s the case, Adam was probably reasonably able to drive, etc.
Again, he may have experienced “developmental” problems earlier on, but he seemed quite able to plan this and execute it.
Still a lot to be learned here. I sense it will be a few days before the whole story can be pieced together into a “followable timeline”.
The first group are the Eccentric Personality Disorders. These people often appear strange or peculiar to others.
1.Paranoid Personality Disorder individual generally tends to interpret the actions of others as threatening.
2.Schizoid Personality Disorder individual generally detached from social relationships, and shows a narrow range of emotional expression in various social settings.
3.Schizotypal Personality Disorder individual is uncomfortable in close relationships, has thought or perceptual distortions, and peculiarities of behavior.
The second group are the Dramatic Personality Disorders. These people have intense emotional mood swings and distorted perceptions of themselves and impulsive behaviours.
1.Antisocial Personality Disorder individual shows a pervasive disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others.
2.Borderline Personality Disorder individual shows a generalized pattern of instability in interpersonal relationships, self-image, and observable emotions, and significant impulsiveness.
3.Histrionic Personality Disorder - individual often displays excessive emotionality and attention seeking in various contexts. They tend to overreact to other people, and are often perceived as shallow and self-centered.
4.Narcissistic Personality Disorder individual has a grandiose view of themselves, a need for admiration, and a lack of empathy that begins by early adulthood and is present in various situations. These individuals are very demanding in their relationships.
The third group are the Anxious Personality Disorders. These people are often fearful and anxious of one or many things.
1.Avoidant Personality Disorder individual is socially inhibited, feels inadequate, and is oversensitive to criticism
2.Dependent Personality Disorder individual shows an extreme need to be taken care of that leads to fears of separation, and passive and clinging behavior.
3.Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder individual is preoccupied with orderliness, perfectionism, and control at the expense of flexibility, openness, and efficiency.
Sociopaths are demons from hell.
A twenty-year-old—perhaps using his brother’s ID to get into bars?
Thank you. That makes more sense - that it may be Aspergers.
but we always have to have a label on people...like its some kind of explanation...
there is NO explanation for what happened...NONE.....
I don't think it was meant as an explanation. It's just info the brother offered. The police ask for whatever he knows about his brother.
That’s exactly why we will never come up with a computer that matches the human brain because soooo many things can go wrong. We have intellect but at the price of instability. There are sooooo so so so so so many people I know that match all those symptoms you listed.
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