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Things that don't add up... (CT shooting)

Posted on 12/14/2012 11:24:47 PM PST by djf

Now I've been watching this news for most of the day. Remarkably, it seems to change every few minutes.

First, we had the name change. Who exactly did the shooting? Ryan? Adam? Someone else?

Then, we hear that someone in camo garb or something was apprehended in the woods. When I first heard this, I assumed it was the brother and that was why there was confusion about the name.

But turns out that the brother was actually at work - and was not in the woods. So who was in the woods?

We hear that the mother is a teacher at the school. Then we hear that she was actually a teachers assistant. Then I see a brief interview with someone who DOES work at the school and who says "Nobody here every heard of her."

Then, tonight, she is reported as being unemployed.

First, the guns (which we have YET to get a clear description of the types and calibers) were stolen from the mother. Then, they were "legally purchased"... but no indication when or from where. Latest, a brief statement that they were "legally purchased with a license provided by a family member"... Now I'm not trying to label anybody here, but it sounds a little out of character that some suburban mom in small-town New England would have that many guns.

Huh?

The ONLY picture we have seen of this guy so far is an out-of-focus pic taken in 2005! 2005? He didn't have a drivers license? A girlfriend? I can't see how he might get a gun without some sort of valid photo id.

Last I heard, only three of the children made it to the hospital. If so, this would be a stunning percentage kill-ratio wise for the guy. In fact in most public shootings, the vast majority are wounded, but not killed. Did this guy have some kind of training?

Too many loose ends. The story keeps changing.

Am I the only one who is having trouble thinking that this was just some whacko dude who blew a fuse and started shooting?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Society
KEYWORDS: guncontrol; sandyhookquestions; sandyhookshooting; secondamendment; vanity
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To: Errant
Pretty amazing isn’t it, considering he used a 9mm and supposedly had Asperger Syndrome. That and being from Connecticut,

Speaking of amazing things, so is this coincidence:

Saturday, December 01, 2012 CASPER, Wyo. — Police released more details Saturday of a grisly murder-suicide at a Wyoming community college, saying a man shot his father in the head with a bow and arrow in front of a computer science class not long after fatally stabbing his father's live-in girlfriend at their home a couple miles away.

Krumm had been living in an apartment house in Vernon, Conn.,and drove to Casper a few days before the attack.

Christopher Krumm, 25, blamed Asperger’s for his trouble keeping jobs after he got a master's degree in electrical engineering from Colorado School of Mines in 2009, said [his aunt] Barbara Nichols, of Bakersfield, Calif.

...was a "borderline genius" upset by the belief he had inherited Asperger's Syndrome from his dad...

Police say Krumm shot 56-year-old James Krumm with an arrow and stabbed him in his Casper College classroom Friday [Nov 30]. The six or so students in the computer science class escaped unhurt.

Earlier, Krumm fatally stabbed his father's girlfriend, 42-year-old Heidi Arnold, at the home she and James Krumm shared in a quiet neighborhood about two miles from campus. Arnold was a math instructor at Casper College.

41 posted on 12/15/2012 1:01:31 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Same here. The preps since Tucson have been severe crazies..what’s setting them off? All copy cat scenario.


42 posted on 12/15/2012 1:03:56 AM PST by hope
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To: deks
She...

Thanks, not sure where I had heard the principal was a he...

43 posted on 12/15/2012 1:04:53 AM PST by Errant
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To: onyx

Many sociopaths don’t have criminal records.


44 posted on 12/15/2012 1:05:04 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Gene Eric

I would bulldoze those two classrooms, and perhaps the entire school.

Who’s going to want their child to pass those classrooms or sit in those two classrooms?

You watch, they’ll erect tributes to those children, which is proper and all, but I would bulldoze those classrooms for sure and make the land into seating area with something special.


45 posted on 12/15/2012 1:05:37 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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From the Wall Street Journal article referenced in the newstimes.com (Connecticut) article that I linked above. . .

Without a lock to secure the door, a teacher at the meeting pressed her body against the door to hold it shut, Ms. Day said. That teacher was shot through the door in the leg and arm. “She was our hero,” Ms. Day said.

Carrie Usher, a fourth-grade teacher, said she believed the principal turned on the campus loudspeaker system, which broadcast sounds of “screaming and crying” through the school to warn others. Ms. Hochsprung and the school psychologist, identified as Mary Sherlach, were reported to be among the victims.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323297104578179271453737596.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories


46 posted on 12/15/2012 1:05:48 AM PST by deks ("...the battle...liberty against the overreach of the federal government" Ken Cuccinelli)
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To: 9YearLurker

The types that commit these crimes do.


47 posted on 12/15/2012 1:06:26 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: deks

The parent of the 7yo the meeting was supposedly about reported the same thing.


48 posted on 12/15/2012 1:07:35 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: ApplegateRanch

Indeed!


49 posted on 12/15/2012 1:07:53 AM PST by Errant
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To: djf
There must be vids.

Agree, and they'll be in "proper" hands for sure.

50 posted on 12/15/2012 1:11:02 AM PST by Errant
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To: deks

It was reported on the news earlier that the school had done a security update earlier this year or last year and that they DID install one of those buzz-in systems.

So now there’s no lock on the school door?

See? The entire story is changing at will.


51 posted on 12/15/2012 1:13:11 AM PST by djf (Conservative values help the poor. Liberal values help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: djf

I *think* the buzz-in would then unlock the door.


52 posted on 12/15/2012 1:15:50 AM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Gene Eric

Hopefully these questions and more will get answered as more information is released.


53 posted on 12/15/2012 1:16:10 AM PST by Errant
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To: Errant

It’s just six miles driving to the hospital from the elementary school.


54 posted on 12/15/2012 1:16:43 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: onyx

I’m not so sure about that—until they commit these crimes, of course.


55 posted on 12/15/2012 1:22:41 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
Probably the reason, but it's kinda odd everything wasn't sent. If it were me, I'd find out why. If there was another shooter, they could have been seen from the air and med-flight would have been first on the scene.
56 posted on 12/15/2012 1:27:30 AM PST by Errant
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To: 9YearLurker

There’s almost always warning signs for these types and a criminal record from age fifteen would be informative. Sociopathy’s have many forms. For example, the Marxist in the WH is a full blown sociopath, but he’s not the type to shoot children, although he would likely have no problem shooting his perceived enemies in the face or ordering someone else to do it.


57 posted on 12/15/2012 1:29:08 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: onyx

“he would likely have no problem shooting his perceived enemies in the face or ordering someone else to do it.”

I recall that two of Obama’s gay “friends” were assassinated in Chicago, prior the 2008 election ... Police never found the murderer(s)


58 posted on 12/15/2012 1:39:21 AM PST by Marguerite (a)
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To: djf

So now there’s no lock on the school door?


No... the meeting room door. Ms. Day is the quoted eyewitness that was in the meeting room with the principal. She said that the principal left the room when the incident started. Since Ms. Day obviously survived the incident, I will speculate that the “teacher”, although wounded in the process, was successful in barricading the meeting room door with her body. (see in quote below). In the first police press conference yesterday, I believe the spokesman said that there was only one person that was wounded and survived. (that may turn out to be the “teacher” described below, or maybe not)

It’s in this article from the Wall Street Journal . . .

“Without a lock to secure the door, a teacher at the meeting pressed her body against the door to hold it shut, Ms. Day said. That teacher was shot through the door in the leg and arm. “She was our hero,” Ms. Day said.


59 posted on 12/15/2012 1:39:47 AM PST by deks ("...the battle...liberty against the overreach of the federal government" Ken Cuccinelli)
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To: Marguerite

:)

“The Chicago Way”


60 posted on 12/15/2012 1:43:08 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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