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Schieffer: NRA the lobby most feared by Congress
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Posted on 12/15/2012 2:16:15 PM PST by RC one

"We're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics," Mr. Obama said.

CBS News chief Washington correspondent Bob Schieffer has been following the gun control debate since the assassination of President Kennedy. He said he takes the president at his word, but he's very skeptical about what will be possible, given the power of the most prominent gun lobbying group, the National Rifle Association.

"This is going to be a very, very difficult thing to do," he said. "Congress is literally afraid to take on the National Rifle Association because they know that if they make any kind of statement [that] even suggests some sort of limits on gun control, the NRA is going to pour, literally, hundreds of thousands of dollars in a campaign to defeat them."

Schieffer, who also hosts "Face the Nation," said Republicans and Democrats are so reluctant to talk about the issue that he's had trouble booking them on his Sunday morning news show.

"We talk about the lobby in Washington, AARP, which represents [people] on Social Security, as a very powerful lobby; you have the various energy lobbies; you've seen all kind of lobbies spring up not to raise taxes.

"I think the National Rifle Association is more feared than any of those associations," Schieffer said.

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1 posted on 12/15/2012 2:16:19 PM PST by RC one
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2 posted on 12/15/2012 2:17:50 PM PST by RC one (Akin/Mourdock-2016)
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To: RC one

Sorry Bobby. Once again, you’ve got it all wrong. The union lobby is the most FEARED by Congress. Without those union bucks, most ‘RAT politicians would be wearing paper hats and flippin’ burgers.


3 posted on 12/15/2012 2:20:33 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's not about the guns. It's about the control.)
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To: RC one

It’s time to deflect this onto violent entertainment media—like Tarantino and bloody video games.


4 posted on 12/15/2012 2:22:36 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: RC one

Well Bob, ever think that might because they represent a point of view held by over a hundred million people?


5 posted on 12/15/2012 2:23:07 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

LOL! Touche!


6 posted on 12/15/2012 2:27:33 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“Without those union bucks, most ‘RAT politicians would be wearing paper hats and flippin’ burgers.” <<

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Only after serving their time making license plates...


7 posted on 12/15/2012 2:27:48 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Mamzelle

Without question violent video games contribute to this culture of violence. They desensitize to the actual death of another living being


8 posted on 12/15/2012 2:30:15 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: RC one
take meaningful action

How about calling the nation to a time of prayer and fasting, seeking God's face. Only problem is that its likely to unravel his whole agenda.

9 posted on 12/15/2012 2:30:53 PM PST by tbpiper
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To: RC one
The mainstream media causes these shootings.

These idiots or psychos do it for the fame the media will give them.

The media makes these shooters household names.

Even if an idiot doesn't do it for the fame and attention , the idiot does it because it saw it on TV or somewhere in the media and knows learned how to to it by watching the endless coverage. Advertisers know that repetition and just exposing someone to an idea or suggestion will get them thinking about it. the media know this and are purposefully doing it to cause more shootings. the media are programming these psycho shooters.

Then the evil media uses the killings they created , the victim’s blood to further empower government , to take away our individual rights and freedoms as is their goal. The media do it on purpose as they know other idiots see the massive coverage of the shootings and will copy. The media are pure evil.

Let’s not give this idiot the attention he sought. Let’s not give the media want the media want, but instead turn it on the media and expose them for what they are doing. The media are democrats/socialists and they want to enslave us.

10 posted on 12/15/2012 2:31:13 PM PST by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. how to limit gov Quantify limited government ...)
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To: RC one
"take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics"

So far we have the following for the Political Class to do:

Quit giving kids all sorts of mind altering drugs.

Institutionalize crazy peeps

Get Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives off of TV and out of the movies.

Stop sales of FPS video games

Train and Arm Teachers

Get rid of most "gun free" zones.

Disarm (emotional thinking) 0bama supporters/voters.

Promote school choice including Home Schooling.

*****

Get on it Bob.

11 posted on 12/15/2012 2:31:22 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: RC one

The libs may want to spend the weekend debating gun control, but BELIEVE ME, the Democrat leaders want NOTHING to do with it. They want the House back in 2014 and the last way they can hope to get it is through gun control...AND THEY KNOW IT.

This is going to be fun to watch.


12 posted on 12/15/2012 2:38:47 PM PST by BobL (Did you know that the Chinese now buy close to twice as many new cars as Americans each year?)
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To: Mamzelle

I’m not prepared to give up an ounce of personal liberty over the actions of a psychopath. not even a score of psychopaths.


13 posted on 12/15/2012 2:39:03 PM PST by RC one (Akin/Mourdock-2016)
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To: RC one

The NRA better get big, hairy, and mean with long fangs real quick because the leftists are coming for the guns and this time they mean business.


14 posted on 12/15/2012 2:39:42 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: RC one
"..not even a score of psychopaths.."

Liberalizm is a Mental Disorder.

15 posted on 12/15/2012 2:41:12 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Ouderkirk
I truly believe many of these games and movies are actively pernicious, as pernicious as pornography. They are particularly bad for teenage boys and young men in their early twenties.

But, frankly, I think video games make an excellent and convenient scapegoat to derail leftwing anti-gun hysteria.

And it's a no-brainer. As soon as the media gets wind that their allies (and make no mistake, game producers are active Obama supporters) are threatened by a prevailing sentiment, that will get them off the trail of trying to confiscate our means of personal defense.

Game producers are Hollywood, folks!

16 posted on 12/15/2012 2:43:25 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Bryanw92
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnCBNho9Kak

Foxx talking about how fun it is to play a guy who kills lots of white people, just a few days ago. And listen to the audience howl approvingly.

This all should be blamed on Hollywood.

17 posted on 12/15/2012 2:52:15 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: RC one

“”We’re going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics,” Mr. Obama said....

With liberals (er, now “progressives”), every aspect of life is about “politics”. If politics are really to be “regardless”, then facts must be given their rightful place. What law failed to protect these children? The law the prohibits murder? Check. The law that makes schools a gun-free zone? Check. Is there some flaw in these laws? No. But these facts are inconvenient to those who cannot be honest with their full agenda.


18 posted on 12/15/2012 2:56:12 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: RC one

No kidding.

It is the only large interst group whose interest is in preserving the Constitution.


19 posted on 12/15/2012 2:57:36 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: RC one

The same NRA that supported the reelection of harry reid and congressman mike michaud (d-Maine).


20 posted on 12/15/2012 2:58:20 PM PST by mirkwood (It takes a village to elect the village idiot.)
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To: Bryanw92
They aren't going after the guns, they're going after us.

this is exactly the tragedy that the libs have been waiting for to do just that. they'll work it for everything its worth.

21 posted on 12/15/2012 3:00:24 PM PST by RC one (Akin/Mourdock-2016)
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To: mirkwood

yeah, that’s the one troll.


22 posted on 12/15/2012 3:01:57 PM PST by RC one (Akin/Mourdock-2016)
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To: RC one; All

Every tyrant on Earth, and all their enablers, can go straight to hell.


23 posted on 12/15/2012 3:02:42 PM PST by SirLurkedalot (My carry permit was issued in 1791.)
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To: BobL
The libs may want to spend the weekend debating gun control, but BELIEVE ME, the Democrat leaders want NOTHING to do with it.

Oh, really?

US President Obama Cries Over School Shooting

Dem. lawmaker: To get gun control, Obama must ‘exploit’ shooting

Nadler urges Obama to call the NRA enablers of mass murder

Cuomo: We Must ‘Crack Down on the Guns’ in Wake of Connecticut Shooting

California Officials Respond to Connecticut Shooting
Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, Mayor Ed Lee, State Sen. Leland Yee, Rep. Mike Honda, Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom.

Lautenberg: Action needed to stop gun violence

Seattle mayor calls for tightened gun controls in wake of shooting

In wake of shooting, Ellison calls for greater gun control laws

Dem pols love to dance in the blood of babies for their agendas. Pushing gun control isn't all bad though. As evidence of that I submit...

Algore for President 2000

24 posted on 12/15/2012 3:04:12 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: RC one

Second Amendment Media War

We need to come up with ideas.

The "progressives" in the government, hollywood, and news media are, predictably, dancing in the blood of the dead children in Connecticut. Emboldened by Barak Obama's surprise second-term win (even he was surprised, you could see it in his face), they see the opportunity to "not let this crisis go to waste" and to push for far- reaching gun restrictions.

How far?

As far as they can go.

And, as usual, we on the right are about to get slaughtered in the media war.

They will convince the low information public that more restrictions on gun ownership (or even an outright ban on guns) will solve the problem and end these masacres.Once convinced, the measures taken to restrict gun- ownership, Constitutional or not, will be welcomed.

We know that a big contributor to these incidents are liberal policies. "Gun Free Zones" and the left's reluctance to allow criminally, dangerously insane individuals from being institutionalized have been the largest contributors to many of the recent attacks.

In the case of public schools: why are we not outraged at the continued existence of these federally mandated killing zones? We should be outraged, and we need to make our outrage known.

You know that the left (who's gun-control goal is not now, nor has it ever been about public safety) is going to do their best to manufacture outrage against law-abiding gun owners.

I know that, as conservatives, it is against our nature to organize. It is against our nature to band together behind a common method of acheiving our goals. It is against our nature to commit the slightest act of civil disobedience.

Our nature will continue to bite us in the backside.

It is a small gesture, but as a start, couldn't we print out several of these flyers:

and affix them over the top of the existing "No Weapons Allowed"/"Gun Free Zone" signs that are posted at businesses, schools, theaters, etc.

My hope is that if enough people do this, it will become news, and it may cause some people to think.

I'm sure that it sounds lame to many of you, but sitting around FreeRepublic bitching about our coming loss of freedom is not going to prevent our loss of freedom.I don't want to be the generation that allows freedom to go extinct.

Make no mistake, the media is where we will lose this war if we don't act.

If you have other ideas on how to attempt to use the media to our advantage, please contribute.

25 posted on 12/15/2012 3:07:04 PM PST by Washi (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: Paladin2

Spot on, well said


26 posted on 12/15/2012 3:10:57 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Paladin2
Get Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives off of TV and out of the movies.

Mexican school children would like to add 'get them out of the gun giveaway business por favor.'

27 posted on 12/15/2012 3:18:56 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: RC one

Would that it were so but the Trial Lawyers own congress


28 posted on 12/15/2012 3:24:45 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: RC one

“When the government fears the people, we have liberty.”

“When the people fear the government, we have tyranny.”


29 posted on 12/15/2012 3:32:04 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 6, 2012.....A day that will live in infamy!)
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To: Mamzelle

Sorry, games made by Hollywood have mostly sucked.

Making them an “excellent and convenient scapegoat” would be lowering ourselves to the level of the leftists.

They are only bad when people have other major issues and or deficiencies, much like many other things.


30 posted on 12/15/2012 3:33:30 PM PST by KEVLAR (Liberty or Death)
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To: KEVLAR
The game companies are all Hollywood--they are very closely allied, if not actually owned and operated by studios. The execs who run them are pro-gay, pro anything leftwing, hate-hate-hate conservatives, and donate heavily to anything Democrat.

You won't see how ill the effects of these games are unless you spend a significant amount of time with developing teens who play them. They are as bad as porn.

Being a 1st Amendment type, I don't seek to regulate or shut them down. But being a 1st Amendment type, I am perfectly free to comment on the deleterious effect they have on young people and society--like drugs and porn and gambling. They take the place of real life to too many people; they're like Soma in Brave New World.

And we'd better find some scapegoats of our own to stop the momentum of the leftists who want to render us unarmed.

31 posted on 12/15/2012 3:40:40 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: RC one

Be interesting to see the NRA become the lobby news-types fear.


32 posted on 12/15/2012 3:42:27 PM PST by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: KEVLAR
re: Making them an “excellent and convenient scapegoat” would be lowering ourselves to the level of the leftists.)))

I don't have any problem knowing myself to be better than filthy leftists.

At some point, we're going to have to learn how to fight back. Bloody entertainment is Hollywood, and Hollywood hates us and wants to ruin our lives. So attack bloody entertainment when they try to blame us for the actions of some game-addled, drug-addled loser who goes postal.

Or let them get your personal protection.

33 posted on 12/15/2012 3:45:07 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: TigersEye

Just watch - they HAVE to do the lip-service. But watch for serious legislation - IT WILL NOT HAPPEN. They know better and have (much) bigger fish to fry.


34 posted on 12/15/2012 3:47:44 PM PST by BobL (Did you know that the Chinese now buy close to twice as many new cars as Americans each year?)
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To: TigersEye

One other thing, this was to be the weekend when the Dems started to twist the knife in the Republicans on the “fiscal cliff”. They had them RIGHT where they wanted them...the polls were killing the Republicans. This was to be the weekend when the Reps would scream UNCLE and give Obama his tax increases on “the rich” - and thereby finally cut the cord between the Republican Party and the Tea Party.

...oh well, not this weekend, and time is running short. This may have DESTROYED their plans and they cannot be happy about that, at all.


35 posted on 12/15/2012 3:57:49 PM PST by BobL (Did you know that the Chinese now buy close to twice as many new cars as Americans each year?)
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To: tbpiper

Somebody should remind our wonderful MSM exactly how many secret security police BO has in tow when he leaves the White House and how many planes it takes to transport his bullet proof limousine and all the security he schleps around, even to places like England where there are no guns allowed.

Somebody should also ask Bloomie why he takes security everywhere with him when he leaves his office in New York and Rahm in Chicago.


36 posted on 12/15/2012 3:59:33 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: mirkwood

Yes, the same NRA. And because of their single minded goal of preserving our Second Amendment rights, they will reward and punish politicians solely on their stand on guns, all other issues be damned. This has led them to winning instead of losing. All the caterwauling by CNN and MSNBC will be for naught because the NRA has enough pols like Harry Reid scared to go against them. Dingy Harry couldn’t get elected dog catcher in Nevada if he voted against guns.


37 posted on 12/15/2012 3:59:53 PM PST by gusty
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To: BobL

I really hope you are right. The one who doesn’t fit the mold is 0bamube though. His words “regardless of politics” echo his past ‘my way or the highway’ pattern. He is brutally efficient at demagoguery and demonizing his opponents thanks to the ultra-compliant MSM. Lacking the Congressional cooperation he will demand he may try an EO once again.


38 posted on 12/15/2012 4:03:33 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: tbpiper

0bama can’t have anyone thinking of anyone’s face but his own.


39 posted on 12/15/2012 4:09:32 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: TigersEye

“I really hope you are right. The one who doesn’t fit the mold is 0bamube though. His words “regardless of politics” echo his past ‘my way or the highway’ pattern. He is brutally efficient at demagoguery and demonizing his opponents thanks to the ultra-compliant MSM. Lacking the Congressional cooperation he will demand he may try an EO once again.”

I do fear the EOs somewhat, but there are limits to what he can do, and he’ll find the going quite difficult if he goes overboard and has the states telling him to take a hike. There simply aren’t enough federal pigs to do it all themselves...as they’ll find out.


40 posted on 12/15/2012 4:30:21 PM PST by BobL (Did you know that the Chinese now buy close to twice as many new cars as Americans each year?)
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To: RC one
100 % of the members of the NRA are armed and will never concede to the liberal gun control jackass in Washington. The were allowed some gun restrictions but the limit has been reached. Want something to fear, better think about millions of guns in the hands of good Constitutional abiding Americans.
41 posted on 12/15/2012 4:51:07 PM PST by Logical me
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Union lobby? There ain't no such thing!

Everyone knows that the unions are the salvation of America. They have been saving people from having to achieve on their own, saving people from learning what they can do on their own, saving people from earning on the basis of their merit instead of the time they spent working at a company.

The NRA, what do they offer: they teach weapon safety, skill and responsibility; they protect the rights of the people under the Second Amendment; they provide the security of the group for individual elected officials who would otherwise cave under the pressure of the loudest lobby in Congress, the Anti-gun lobby!

42 posted on 12/15/2012 5:03:34 PM PST by zerosix (Native sunflower)
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To: BobL

Unfortunately the difficulty will fall on all of us not just him and the trouble with that ‘if’ is that it’s an if. A number of states are happily going along with 0bamaCare even though any half-decent comptroller would have to report to the gov and legislature that it will utterly destroy the state.


43 posted on 12/15/2012 5:09:23 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Logical me

liberals get tingles down their leg when they think about this scenario.


44 posted on 12/15/2012 5:16:20 PM PST by RC one (Akin/Mourdock-2016)
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To: gusty

Valid point. I just can not stand reid and was shocked when the nra supported him. Makes me sick after all the damage he has done to this country.


45 posted on 12/15/2012 5:24:11 PM PST by mirkwood (It takes a village to elect the village idiot.)
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To: Mamzelle

And the GOP could do that... by raising taxes on Hollywood. Eliminating favorable expense and profit-hiding loopholes in the tax code.

The GOP, if they wanted, could put quite a bit of Hollywood out of business or make it much less profitable than it is today. Much less profit means much less disposable income which can be gifted to liberals and liberal groups.

But the GOP continues to hew to this stupid “no new taxes” pledge, foreswearing the political power that comes with the tax code.

Grover Norquist needs to be disposed of. He’s a at best a nuisance, at worst a salafist quisling.


46 posted on 12/15/2012 5:24:20 PM PST by NVDave
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To: RC one

The congress critters got fired last time they banned guns. It will happen again. The only way it will get enacted this time is Decree from the Dictator suspending the 2A and R2KBA. Otherwise no change.

Expect a Presidential Order before Friday this week suspending the second amendment.


47 posted on 12/15/2012 6:21:46 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: RC one

I

AM

THE

NRA!



48 posted on 12/15/2012 6:25:50 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: FlyingEagle

I don’t think he would even go that far. I suspect they’ll use the media to work people up into an anti-NRA/firearms frenzy and move for another AWB which will of course include all kinds of other restrictions on firearms. we need to let our congress critters know that we have their backs when the fight starts. I already wrote mine and I just reupped my membership to the NRA for a measly $35.00. We’re gonna have to fight here. Time to get in the mud again.


49 posted on 12/15/2012 6:49:34 PM PST by RC one (Akin/Mourdock-2016)
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To: FlyingEagle

And then watch the fangs come out!


50 posted on 12/15/2012 7:00:04 PM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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