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I have an idea

Posted on 12/15/2012 4:56:53 PM PST by PWK arch

I am truly bothered


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To: PWK arch

Guardsmen have better things to do with the time we’re paying them for than babysitting kids, on the off-chance that a bad guy might show up at some school some day.


21 posted on 12/15/2012 5:18:24 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

It’s a different world out there now, and not the Guard/Reserve you knew way back when. I’ve deployed three times as a Guardsman and been in close contact with the active component all three times (including having my infantry company as the main effort for an active duty armored task force in Iraq for five months). I won’t lower my standards to the active component’s level.

There are jacked-up soldiers, and jacked up units in both the active and the reserve components. Fact is, we’ve never won a war without the reserve components.

That having been said - - - you’re right. Keep the military out of it.


22 posted on 12/15/2012 5:18:27 PM PST by AbnSarge
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To: PWK arch
hey we are paying the guardsmen anyway.

They need to be training in their MOS or AFSC, not pulling guard duty (badly) at grade schools.

The military is for war.

/johnny

23 posted on 12/15/2012 5:18:32 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: PWK arch
How kids in Israel are protected.

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Since staff and older students were issued arms, no school has been attacked by Palestinian terrorists.

The Ma'alot massacre was a terrorist attack in 1974 which included a two-day hostage-taking of 115 people which ended in the deaths of over 25 hostages. They threw kids off the roof to their deaths.

24 posted on 12/15/2012 5:23:25 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: PWK arch

I’ve got an idea.

Let’s start informing said students that it is not just against the law to murder people - it’s a SIN as well!

Let’s put the fear of God into them.


25 posted on 12/15/2012 5:24:23 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: PMAS

The question then becomes on how to pay for it.


26 posted on 12/15/2012 5:26:28 PM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: PWK arch

Have to add a caveat to the story. Part of crime in Ma’alot included the shooting and explosives to kill students. Some of the kids jumped. More here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma%27alot_massacre


27 posted on 12/15/2012 5:27:56 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

“I’m VERY serious in my belief that the teachers need to be trained and carry all the time.”

At least the front desk people - those who are first to greet any and all visitors.


28 posted on 12/15/2012 5:30:01 PM PST by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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To: donna

And make the schools stop teaching them that reality is a subjective concept.

The schools could also stop teaching them the dire global warming bull puckey that makes 8 year olds into neurotic hopeless basket cases.


29 posted on 12/15/2012 5:33:22 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: PWK arch
Evil has once again shown its' very ugly face

Yes. It has......

30 posted on 12/15/2012 5:33:46 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: PWK arch

We are NOT paying them for what they need to do, let alone add-ons like that. With all the additional training burdens placed on our Guard and Reserve Soldiers (Suicide, sexual harassment, IT security just to name a few) we are already using 120%-plus of available time before we get to tactical training, maintenance or administration.

We are telling these guys already to go home and use their family time to do their on-line training, but we won’t pay for it. And it gets worse every time the idea-fairy drops another shiny object anywhere near the pentagon or Guard Bureau.


31 posted on 12/15/2012 5:35:12 PM PST by AbnSarge
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To: PWK arch

TV, movie standards and video games need an overhaul, adults at schools should be armed, and mentally ill people should be safely off the streets, into institutions where warranted. All recent mass killings involving guns were involving mentally ill persons, or Islamist terrorists. But I repeat myself.


32 posted on 12/15/2012 5:36:18 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: Brad's Gramma

I doubt we could get that implemented, but if we could, I like your plan better than mine.


33 posted on 12/15/2012 5:39:49 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Cigarettes are like squirrels: Perfectly harmless until you put one in your mouth and set it on fire)
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To: FlyingEagle
All recent mass killings involving guns were involving mentally ill persons,

Gee, who would have guessed that mental illness has been at the root of mass killings, kind of like all through history.
34 posted on 12/15/2012 5:40:16 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: PWK arch

The only solution that will have any effect at all is to fortify schools and other soft targets, PWK.

Your idea is great, but it does not go far enough. We need more than several in each school.

I’d say a team armed and visible at all times backed up by plain clothes running electronic security and carrying concealed.

They need to be there all day, every day for the rest of time.

Now is the time for such security companies to form, and they should not be union, because unions will strike leaving the schools exposed to attack.

Furthermore, schools need to change their architecture. They need to be physically harder. Doors need to be solid steel and locked down except when classes are changing.

Front doors need to be locked down as well as all exits and entrances. Fences need to be erected around the property and those fences need to be secured and guarded at all times.

May sound extreme, but it’s not as extreme as a bunch of dead kids and vulture politicians trying to consume civil liberties as a result.


35 posted on 12/15/2012 5:40:21 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: PWK arch
I know this might give the appearance of an "armed" society, but if you recall this was done following 911 and no one really objected.

It doesn't just give the "appearance" of an armed society, it is an armed society.

Study your history. Massacres have occurred throughout American history. Some data suggest they reached their peak in the 1920's. Government can't solve this any more than it can stop people taking drugs.

36 posted on 12/15/2012 5:40:46 PM PST by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: SkyDancer

My daughter is about to graduate with a degree in elementary education. For obvious reasons she has been following the events in CT with great interest. She positively LOVED this picture!


37 posted on 12/15/2012 5:41:56 PM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: jivin gene

That’s what I did do! Front desk. Sign in, sign out...that sort of thing.

I would’ve let him on the campus as he was the son of a teacher, and I’d have KNOWN him. I’d probably have seen him on campus many times.


38 posted on 12/15/2012 5:43:11 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Brad's Gramma

That would be fine except that most teachers are liberals and would refuse. The whole mindset needs to be addressed. Guns are tools, for good and evil. Right now, they consider them evil in every aspect. Until that changes, then we will continue to see the gun control rants and no viable solutions.
This troubled young man intended to suicide and wanted to take as many easy targets as possible with him. A school is the ultimate candy store to someone in that state. If he has known there was a possibility that someone was armed, well, he may have chosen differently, or, there may have been a different outcome.


39 posted on 12/15/2012 5:43:30 PM PST by ozaukeemom (USA-it was nice while it lasted)
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To: Mr. Silverback

OR! Retired police/military AND PARENTS, who are trained...to walk the campus.

That’s free. Free’s a good price.


40 posted on 12/15/2012 5:45:10 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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