Does Objective truth exist? If so, why?

unknown | Jonathan Sarfati

[Zeneta]

I'd like to share this for those that are interested in seeking truth.

The issues run far and wide, however there seems a core to understanding that needs to be examined.

[Zeneta]

For those that care to ask questions. Questions that are the foundations of someones worldview, I ask you to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1JVcLqGztk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4fujOG6tOU&NR=1&feature=endscreen

[Zeneta]

easy links:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1JVcLqGztk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4fujOG6tOU&NR=1&feature=endscreen

[ConorMacNessa]

You have already answered the question in the affirmative.



Keep Faith with the Fallen of Benghazi! Let the Obama Regime, for once, tell the Truth!

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Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

[Flycatcher]

Does objective truth exist?

Yes.

But, a persuasive argument for objective truth can only be conducted subjectively.

And therein lies the tragedy of our age.

[Zeneta]

Facts tell but stories sell.

wonder why things were written the way they were?

[hinckley buzzard]

Of course objective truth exists. Truth is a derivative of reality. Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. It really is that simple.

[Zeneta]

Thanks for your reply.

Did you watch the videos ?

The issue at hand, is why?

[JimSEA]

“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away.”

I rather like that.

[Flycatcher]

Facts tell but stories sell. wonder why things were written the way they were?

This may or may not surprise you, but the encumbrances of language forbid us to entertain the vanity of knowing truth objectively.

That was my point.

[Zeneta]

Where does logic come from?

can you point to it in any materialistic way?

[Manic_Episode]

1+1=2

[newheart]

Ping for later

[Zeneta]

Yes 1 plus 1 equals 2.

How is it even possible that we know this?

As Albert Einstein said:

The most incomprehensible thing about the world is that it is at all comprehensible.

[Flycatcher]

Yes 1 plus 1 equals 2.

Only if we agree what those numerical symbols mean. I'll play Devil's Advocate now. I have no idea what those artificial symbols mean. I don't understand your truth, because your language is inadequate. Worse still, I'm deaf.

Now try to get me to understand the objective truth of the beautiful dawn song of the crissal thrasher.

[Zeneta]

I’ll play, but give me a moment to deal with something.

[Joe 6-pack]

"Yes...But, a persuasive argument for objective truth can only be conducted subjectively."

Actually, one of the most persuasive arguments is a simple analysis of the statement, "There is no objective truth."

The statement can not be true.

[Zeneta]

so I get this FR mail from:

“I see my hands”

Everything I touch
with tenderness, alas,
pricks like a bramble. ~ Issa

Ismh

I suspect he is a mohammedan.

[Flycatcher]

It's a logic trap, but the snare is forged in the plastic of language. (By the way, have you stopped beating your wife?)

It has all the weight of an empty tautology, but not its cleverness.

[Revolting cat!]

All Cretans Are Liars.

[Zeneta]

How is logic a trap ?