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To: expat1000
I agree, but using language we can understand, if not know.

I think you're on to something. Without language, of course, even basic communication from one to another is impossible. But the only thing standing in the way of pure understanding is language.

Ouch.

28 posted on 12/15/2012 10:06:39 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Flycatcher
Without language, of course, even basic communication from one to another is impossible. But the only thing standing in the way of pure understanding is language.

words are great.

Your circular attempt at reason is another thing all together.

29 posted on 12/15/2012 10:14:14 PM PST by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
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To: Flycatcher
But the only thing standing in the way of pure understanding is language.

This is as much to say as Truth is necessarily subjective, that is "felt". Objective and Subjective are modes of knowing, and the preminence of science has elevated the former over the latter, but the Greek sophists argued that the subjective is primary, and the objective secondary, that is constructed ... communicated ... external. Our entire personal reality is in fact subjective.

32 posted on 12/15/2012 10:26:28 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: Flycatcher
But the only thing standing in the way of pure understanding is language.

I don't see it quite that way. Standing in the way - yes, there are schools of thought that feel that the intellect is a hinderance or worse to knowing the ultimate truth (or truths - depending on your belief) - I don't think so myself.

Pure understanding - what is it? I think really that is knowing or experiencing... which comes back to that being an non-intellectual, therefore non-language - experience.

47 posted on 12/15/2012 11:14:34 PM PST by expat1000
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