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1 posted on 12/17/2012 9:12:48 AM PST by pabianice
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Yes, and recalling my own past, we sometimes lost it and started beating each other up. But then at the end of the day we apologized and made up.

As far as I was concerned, I only had so many good friends, and I didn’t want to lose them.

One part of controlling your temper is to lose it every so often, and then pay the penalty—and learn to control it better.


2 posted on 12/17/2012 9:20:36 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Doubtful.

I like violent video games. Doom, Quake, Halo...
I have lots of guns and I’m pretty much a nut.

Got no interest whatsoever in blasting a bunch of innocent folks.

It’s something effed up in the PERSON who does such things.

Maybe a father figure who whips your ass once in a while
imparts something undefinable but infinitely important.


3 posted on 12/17/2012 9:23:10 AM PST by humblegunner
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In the end, what Solzhenitsyn said about the destruction brought by Soviet Communism can be said of American relativism: “We have forgotten God. That is why all these things have happened.”

Video games, availability of guns, whatever. All these are not what caused the problem. What caused the problem is we have raised our children to believe there is no such thing as right or wrong and no God who demands righteousness from His creatures. We have accordingly created government policy that attempts to alleviate all consequences of sinful action, and that is the “feedback mechanism” that has been removed from our society: The consequences of sinful behavior.


4 posted on 12/17/2012 9:23:23 AM PST by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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Good point.

We learned life by living life, even if it was an imaginary portayal of life, it was real to us by our hands-on participation ... not an insulated game.

5 posted on 12/17/2012 9:23:51 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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Interesting post!

Yes, of course that must be part of it. I remember getting hit with an iceball (in the face) as a kid and thinking: maybe this game isn’t for me. These real games may very well have been teaching me to be leery of violence.


6 posted on 12/17/2012 9:24:46 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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I highly doubt this had any impact on the murderer.

What the CT, AZ, CO and VA killers all had in common were that they were young males with emergent paranoid schizophrenia.

That is the commonality that most observers are ignoring.

In 1965, all four would likely have been institutionalized.

8 posted on 12/17/2012 9:25:36 AM PST by wideawake
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Nonsense. It’s what we are putting into our kids blood streams, not their eyeballs.


9 posted on 12/17/2012 9:26:07 AM PST by DManA
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The only answer is that there is evil in this world, there has always been evil in this world, and will always be evil in this world....and there is nothing you can do about it.......and anyone who thinks they can do something about it, is most likely to make the “cure” even worse than the disease.


10 posted on 12/17/2012 9:30:44 AM PST by dfwgator
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These are random acts. I don’t know if such acts are indeed becoming more common vs. the past - perhaps only the media coverage is increasing.

Trying to “prevent” such random, and rare, occurrence, is like trying to prevent lightening.


12 posted on 12/17/2012 9:36:49 AM PST by PGR88
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Look at where we start with kids. Everything they see from the earliest age is a liberal manipulation of reality. They see it on Sesame Street. Then when they go to school, they’re told that the parents are ruthlessly destroying the planet and don’t care about the kids or their future. They’re told that thoughts of homosexuality are normal and not having those thoughts are abnormal. Society is creating a shield of fantasy around them and as they get older reality begins to intrude and they can’t cope.

I saw this with my liberal sister. When her son was 6 or 7 years old he told me that all the animals had to move to build a house for people. I pointed out that his house was no different than any others and my sister went ballistic because I told him the truth.

My point is that kids can’t distinguish between reality and fantasy because they don’t have a reality based frame of reference any more.

BTW my nephew is now 18 years old and my sister is having a tough time coping with the fact that he isn’t different from other 18 year old boys. She built the fantasy and she began to believe her fantasy and she can’t figure out what went wrong. Fortunately her son is coping a lot better than she is.


13 posted on 12/17/2012 9:39:14 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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We live in a bizzaro world where video games, objects, drugs, lack of hugs, etc. are blamed for violence. Otherwise reasonable people completely fall for the "desensitized to violence" meme without pausing the consider the historical refutation of this fiction. Was the world without video games and guns a happy peaceful place where no one ever got murdered? Do you think a child born in 1993 saw less violence than those born in 1883, 1773, 1673, 1573, or 1473? No just no, but heck no. Not only must we ignore times when violence was much more prevalent and much more real we have to ignore geographical areas that are far more violent than that of America.

A christian church burned down in some shit hole in Africa by muslims where dozens of people are killed? Not really a big deal by today's media standards. Sure they don't usually have a TV or electricity but it's probably video games or antidepressants. How many Mexicans were murdered in the last week by drug gangs that this administration helped arm? Again it doesn't fit with the anti-America meme, but if push came to shove I bet it could be blamed on desensitization to violence by popular (American) culture. How many have been killed in Chicago in the last week with illegally obtained guns? We don't want to talk about that but again if forced we could use all of the above as excuses.

18 posted on 12/17/2012 9:49:19 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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I often think about my childhood, in relation to that of my own children and wish that things could be different. I regret that they can’t know the innocence of childhood like I did. It disappoints me, that to keep them safe, I have to keep them sheltered to some degree. Sure I let them go outside and play, but it’s much more limited than what I wish they could have. And I also keep my eye on the electronics they use and the games they play, that’s why LeapFrog is a huge product in my house, so they are learning as they play.

When I was growing up (70’s/80’s), we didn’t have many electronic toys to occupy our time, unless you want to include Pong... We didn’t have computers, or Ipods, or Ipads. We had to use our imagination and create our own play environment (if you will). We had to interact with each other, which is something I think is HUGH when it comes to what is happening in society with our kids today. I mean, what ever happened to Pac-Man, Frogger, DigDug, Tron?....I can’t even think of a truly “violent” game back then. But now, everything is so life like and real...even in 3D. And every where you go, you see kids with their noses, stuck in their little electronic gadget....tuning the world out, or texting when they are standing right next to each other, instead of talking.

I lived in a small town, up in the woods, so my playground was a forest. And we only got 2 channels on the TV, so going outside to play was the best thing ever. And I remember not ever being made to wear helmets, knee pads or protective gear when playing. If we got hurt, we got hurt. We put on a bandaid, scratched ourselves off, and went back to playing.

Even still, when I went to the city to play with my friends, we didn’t want to hang out inside, and when we went out outside (in the front yards) we played without fear of being picked up and/or taken by some psycho. Neighbors watched out for neighbors, and the parents watched out for other kids (not just their own).

But now, I refuse to let my kids out the front door, unless I am with them. And it really disturbs me when I see little children (obviously under 10, and especially under 5) riding their bikes or playing ALL ALONE, with no parent in sight. Because I know there are sick people out there....who could very easily come and take that kid and hurt that kid. I know people don’t look out for other people anymore. Parents aren’t willing to keep their eye out on the neighborhood kids anymore.

I think this has caused a lot of kids to resort to their electronic gadgets too. They get bored SO easily. Even when my kids go out and play in our backyard, they eventually would rather come in and get lost in their video games. And I think too many parents don’t bother with that. They let their kids just close themselves off and isolate themselves in their electronic world and don’t try to MAKE them interact like we used to. I can’t imagine getting my teen his own cell phone, let alone give one to a younger child, but I know people who have given smart phones to 6 and 10 year olds....WTF for? I just can’t imagine why a child needs a smart phone....let alone a cell phone.

But I digress, I just think if more kids were made to use their imagination and to interact with more people outside of electronics, than less isolation and less kids would need to get lost in their video games and virtual realities.


20 posted on 12/17/2012 9:52:44 AM PST by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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Yasser Arafat, head of the PLO, was responsible for the Maalot High School Massacre on May 15, 1974, when Palestinian terrorists infiltrated an Israeli school, massacring twenty-six children and adults and wounding sixty-six others.

And here's our president, telling the world that Arafat, who did that and murdered countless other unarmed people, including Americans, was fit to bring into the White House and call him "friend".

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

21 posted on 12/17/2012 9:53:48 AM PST by Dogbert41 (What now?)
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We all carried little pen knives...to play mumbly peg.....and I’m talking kindergarten...and up. It was no big deal. We were very responsible kids and our parents knew what we were doing all the time.


25 posted on 12/17/2012 10:03:30 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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I can't deny that the problem has roots in the changing culture, but what factors are most significant? Who knows? Just from what I've heard, Lanza had multiple deleterious influences:

Raised by single mom/no father/abandonment issues.

No friends/no peers/no one to hold him accountable.

Possible autism/mental illness/medication/etc.

No "real world" experience, no job, no future, just an isolated existance doing God-knows-what in a huge house, enabled by and dominated by mom.

No spiritual grounding. If this "family" ever went to a church I haven't heard it.

It all adds up to someone who had lost his grip on reality. Of course there are plenty of people who face similar or worse environments and don't murder schoolkids. What's the critical factor? I don't know.

29 posted on 12/17/2012 10:13:51 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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Paroxetine (Paxil)

Fluoxetine (Sarafem)

Sertraline (Zoloft)

Citalopram (Celexa)

Escitalopram (Lexapro)

This is the problem not guns.


32 posted on 12/17/2012 10:26:41 AM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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Yes, video games and social media contribute to the dehumanization of mankind. So do violent movies and smash mouth leftist players.

If we are going to have “sin taxes” on ciggs., we need high sin taxes on the entertainment media’s products promoting violence. Videos, gangsta rap music, movies, etc. That is not messing with the first amendment (banning the speech as liberals want to do to anyone who disagrees with them or Islam), but messing with the profits of the extreme anti-social players in entertainment. Left wing activist.

Porn produces perverts, too. Entertainment whoredom should be taxed out of kingdom come.


35 posted on 12/17/2012 11:02:30 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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36 posted on 12/17/2012 11:04:33 AM PST by MtnMan101
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I bet you didn't get all kinds of mind-altering drugs to get your mind right & stop your anti-social behavior.

We still have not heard what prescription drugs this evil young man had in his system.

39 posted on 12/17/2012 11:53:08 AM PST by TexasCajun
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I get so sick of people blaming video games, or violence in movies, ect... Fact is there are simply evil people in this world.
45 posted on 12/17/2012 12:50:16 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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