Posted on 12/17/2012 12:38:59 PM PST by ArmyBratproud
Never mind the fact that the NRA goes into a hiding hole in the ground somewhere everytime there is a dust up, leaving 2nd Amendment Supporters and Law Abiding Gun Owners to fend for themselves, which brings the usual question around these times. Where is the NRA?
A more important question needs to be asked. As we see so-called "pro gun" Democrats warming up to tighter gun controls, according to reports, we may just see where are membership dues went to those who will not help. How many of these Democrats that will come out for gun control laws did the NRA give money to and help get re-elected? Most of us have had concerns with the way the NRA seems to eager to "negotiate" at times. Usually because it comes too close to giving up ground that should never be given up.
Many have the renewal forms coming in the mail. I'm sure many will be watching to see if they want to give any more to those who might actually work against the rights of gun owners/law abiding citizens.
Yep. Where’s John Tester? Where’s Max Baucus? Oh, their bosses in the Democrat party told them to shut up.
This is not the time for this argument. There are going to be a lot of bills coming down the pike that will seek to completely strip the 2nd Amendment from the Constitution.
Causing a rift in the movement right now is not wise and in fact is quite foolish.
The NRA got Harry Reid re-elected. They’re not always on the right side.
This is exactly the time for this concern! (There is no “argument” to it. Nothing to debate here. The fact of what is going on with NRA supported candidates going soft is fact). You don’t wait until it is too late! Giving even a little ground only leads to bigger problems and loss of rights. The only reason someone would not be aware of this reality is if they were living in a cave for the past 30 years. Or...if they were one of those who is also soft on protecting our rights to own guns...
So now YOU feel the need to do so too? Sheesh!
Let’s concentrate on the attack from the Left at the moment. When that has lessened or temporarily abated, then we can have a knock down, drag out internecine squabble.
I just want to prioritize. Besides, politics makes for strange bed fellows as you should well know.
Stop the Left first, then straighten out our side after.
You know, one of the things that struck me this morning, as two of my brain cells managed to fire at the same time, was this:
The NRA knows where each of its membership lives.
The membership knows little or nothing about the composition of the NRA other than a few in public leadership.
NRA members do not know each other.
I am not a big tinfoil hat guy, but if you connect the dots on the above the implications are disturbing.
Didn’t Joe Manchin also pretend to be against the health care law but voted for it? Once a disgusting Dem, always a disgusting Dem..no one can trust a Dem..they say one thing but the second they are elected they turn around and stab you right in the back, that is why they are Dems
I have read that the NRA doesn’t care the party, the person has to have a pro second amendment background....just repeating what I read, don’t know who would qualify in the democratic party, except one of the members of congress and a liberal on everything except gun control. He recently left congress after 50 years...and was from Michigan...
Harry Reid
Hey Brat, why don't you cut to the chase here and speak what's really on your mind. You'd like nothing better than to see the NRA defunded and put out of business, right?
This is the single largest reason I don’t support the NRA as a member or financial contributor. When the NRA endorsed Harry Reid for re-election in Nevada, was the final nail in the coffin.
ArmyBratproud didn’t cause a rift - it was opened up by the NRA itself. The NRA chose the single-issue attitude to politics over objections by its membership. The NRA lost lots of members - including me - over their misguided endorsement of dingy harry. (actually what lost me was their intransigence to discussing political endorsement issues with their membership - they refused to answer our questions).
Thus, I see the question of “How many of these Democrats did the NRA give money to and get re-elected?” entirely valid and reasonable.
How?
I know hundreds of NRA members and they know me.
This is why I stopped renewing my NRA membership. Their policy seems to be to support any incumbent, regardless of party if they are “pro 2nd amendment”. For this reason, they withhold support from a challenger who may be a better candidate (and even more “pro 2nd amendment”) than the guy they endorse.
Do YOU, PERSONALLY, endorse demonicRat Bastard Joe Manchin?
Chris Cox and NRA endorsed the slime-weasel.
That said I let my 30+ year membership go in 2010 when they did support two scummy dem congressional encumbents in CO.
They backed Reid instead of the Republican challenger, Sharon Angle (sp)
What really pisses me off is that the liberals didn’t give the nation ten minutes to mourn before they started attackign conservatives for believing that the second amendment means what it says.
So, instead of mourning for the murdered children and offering words and prayers of condolence and comfort to the families and friends,we found ourselves feeling compelled to engage in political arguments with knuckleheads.
The NRA got Harry Reid re-elected
How?
Because they supported the scumbag. And he milked that. His opponent may not have been the best but they could have supported her or at least failed to endorse him.
The NRA backs the candidate with the highest pro gun rating. Some win and some don't. Is the NRA responsible for the defeat of those they support that don't win?
Go this site,must sign in and see what they are worth and what they pay their directors etc.
http://www.guidestar.org/SearchResults.aspx
Go this site,must sign in and see what they are worth and what they pay their directors etc.
http://www.guidestar.org/SearchResults.aspx
National RINO Association?
Right - let’s not talk about this.
In fact, we’ll never talk about it.
Let’s just surrender everything to the left.
The NRA endorses the candidate with the highest pro gun rating. The NRA is a proactive 2nd Amendment firearms organization, not a political organization. Is the NRA responsible for the defeat of every candidate they endorse that loses?
I felt the same way. I thought my opinion of the left could sink any lower, I was wrong.
The NRA is right to be quiet before the dead are buried. The gun grabbers are showing their lack of respect for the dead and their primary cause of taking away people’s rights.
“Is the NRA responsible for the defeat of every candidate they endorse that loses?”
No, they are not. But they’d have to be blind not to see that Harry Reid is not the “conservative” democrat he claimed he was. He’s a militant leftist who’s the majority leader of the senate and democrats are always anti-gun. Reid played just enough to get their endorsement. Wanna bet that an assault weapons ban will somehow come up for a vote in the Senate while they “haven’t had time” for lots of other legislation, budget, jobs, etc.
To be quite frank, I don't know who the hell he is.....
No they didn't...........
Red State: NRA NOT endorsing Harry Reid
Really?
Yet you vigorously defend the NRA, which endorsed him for US Senate.
Perhaps you should learn what sort of idiots you're defending.
Ok. Then my memory’s shot. I thought they had endorsed him.
And you do this by endorsing politicians from the "Ban All Guns" party.
Brilliant.
We exist to protect the second amendment.
I’m with ya.
If you choose to do so, brace yourself and visit Democratic Underground. Liberals being against the 2nd Ammendment is not a slam-dunk. Some of the pro-gun Dems are just as vehement and vociferous as anyone in support of this inalienable right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIJORBRpOPM
Joe Manchin’s ad accepting the NRA’s endorsement. Gee that didn’t turn around to bite them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIJORBRpOPM
Joe Manchin’s ad accepting the NRA’s endorsement. Gee that didn’t turn around to bite them.
Now that I know who he is, let me ask YOU this:
What is it in Manchin's past stance on firearms that would cause the NRA to NOT endorse him in his last election?
Firearms. We recognize that the individual right to bear arms is an important part of the American tradition, and we will preserve Americans’ Second Amendment right to own and use firearms. We believe that the right to own firearms is subject to reasonable regulation. We understand the terrible consequences of gun violence; it serves as a reminder that life is fragile, and our time here is limited and precious. We believe in an honest, open national conversation about firearms. We can focus on effective enforcement of existing laws, especially strengthening our background check system, and we can work together to enact commonsense improvements – like reinstating the assault weapons ban and closing the gun show loophole – so that guns do not fall into the hands of those irresponsible, law-breaking few.
No politician, regardless of what he may have done, who does not explicitly repudiate that position, deserves an A+ rating or an endorsement.
Manchin tried to finesse the issue, pretending that signing some pro gun legislation that the Legislature shoved down his throat made him some sort of pro-gun conservative.
You're apparently the National Assault Weapons Ban Association ... see quote from the 2012 Democratic National Platform, which your NRA A+ Rated, Endorsed Hero Joe Manchin supported by running as a democRat.
Quit trying to defend the indefensible. You, and the NRA in general, would be far better off to admit that you screwed up. It would have the benefit of being honest.
Yeah, they’re working this tragedy for all it’s worth over there. I’m hoping that they continue to alienate and ostracize their members who actually support the RKBA so they’ll join us and turn against them.
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