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How many of these Democrats did the NRA give money to and get re-elected?
12/17/12 | Armybratproud

Posted on 12/17/2012 12:38:59 PM PST by ArmyBratproud

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1 posted on 12/17/2012 12:39:07 PM PST by ArmyBratproud
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To: ArmyBratproud

Yep. Where’s John Tester? Where’s Max Baucus? Oh, their bosses in the Democrat party told them to shut up.


2 posted on 12/17/2012 12:43:44 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: ArmyBratproud

This is not the time for this argument. There are going to be a lot of bills coming down the pike that will seek to completely strip the 2nd Amendment from the Constitution.

Causing a rift in the movement right now is not wise and in fact is quite foolish.


3 posted on 12/17/2012 12:44:29 PM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: ArmyBratproud
The one that pisses me off is Joe Manchin, he had a straight A+ rating with the NRA and was solidly pro-gun as governor of West Virginia, (he is even famous for shooting Obama’s cap and trade bill in a campaign commercial). Yet, a MONTH after he was reelected to a six year senate term (he had been serving the remainder of Byrds term before). He was one of FIRST to sign on to Diane Fienstein Assault Weapons Ban. Way to stab West Virgina gun owners in the back you liberal scumbag!
4 posted on 12/17/2012 12:46:41 PM PST by apillar
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To: ArmyBratproud

The NRA got Harry Reid re-elected. They’re not always on the right side.


5 posted on 12/17/2012 12:49:23 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: txnativegop

This is exactly the time for this concern! (There is no “argument” to it. Nothing to debate here. The fact of what is going on with NRA supported candidates going soft is fact). You don’t wait until it is too late! Giving even a little ground only leads to bigger problems and loss of rights. The only reason someone would not be aware of this reality is if they were living in a cave for the past 30 years. Or...if they were one of those who is also soft on protecting our rights to own guns...


6 posted on 12/17/2012 12:51:07 PM PST by ArmyBratproud
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To: ArmyBratproud
The leftist MSM is typically going to come down hard on the NRA as they always do following a tragic event as just happened.

So now YOU feel the need to do so too? Sheesh!

7 posted on 12/17/2012 12:52:45 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: ArmyBratproud

Let’s concentrate on the attack from the Left at the moment. When that has lessened or temporarily abated, then we can have a knock down, drag out internecine squabble.

I just want to prioritize. Besides, politics makes for strange bed fellows as you should well know.

Stop the Left first, then straighten out our side after.


8 posted on 12/17/2012 12:54:41 PM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: ArmyBratproud

You know, one of the things that struck me this morning, as two of my brain cells managed to fire at the same time, was this:

The NRA knows where each of its membership lives.

The membership knows little or nothing about the composition of the NRA other than a few in public leadership.

NRA members do not know each other.

I am not a big tinfoil hat guy, but if you connect the dots on the above the implications are disturbing.


9 posted on 12/17/2012 12:54:55 PM PST by patriotsblood
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To: apillar

Didn’t Joe Manchin also pretend to be against the health care law but voted for it? Once a disgusting Dem, always a disgusting Dem..no one can trust a Dem..they say one thing but the second they are elected they turn around and stab you right in the back, that is why they are Dems


10 posted on 12/17/2012 12:57:22 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: ArmyBratproud

I have read that the NRA doesn’t care the party, the person has to have a pro second amendment background....just repeating what I read, don’t know who would qualify in the democratic party, except one of the members of congress and a liberal on everything except gun control. He recently left congress after 50 years...and was from Michigan...


11 posted on 12/17/2012 1:00:12 PM PST by goat granny
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To: blueunicorn6

Harry Reid


12 posted on 12/17/2012 1:02:59 PM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: ArmyBratproud
I'm sure many will be watching to see if they want to give any more to those who might actually work against the rights of gun owners/law abiding citizens.

Hey Brat, why don't you cut to the chase here and speak what's really on your mind. You'd like nothing better than to see the NRA defunded and put out of business, right?

13 posted on 12/17/2012 1:04:10 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: ArmyBratproud

This is the single largest reason I don’t support the NRA as a member or financial contributor. When the NRA endorsed Harry Reid for re-election in Nevada, was the final nail in the coffin.


14 posted on 12/17/2012 1:05:43 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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To: txnativegop; ArmyBratproud

ArmyBratproud didn’t cause a rift - it was opened up by the NRA itself. The NRA chose the single-issue attitude to politics over objections by its membership. The NRA lost lots of members - including me - over their misguided endorsement of dingy harry. (actually what lost me was their intransigence to discussing political endorsement issues with their membership - they refused to answer our questions).

Thus, I see the question of “How many of these Democrats did the NRA give money to and get re-elected?” entirely valid and reasonable.


15 posted on 12/17/2012 1:06:04 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: cotton1706
The NRA got Harry Reid re-elected

How?

16 posted on 12/17/2012 1:06:55 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: patriotsblood
NRA members do not know each other.

I know hundreds of NRA members and they know me.

17 posted on 12/17/2012 1:09:32 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: ArmyBratproud

This is why I stopped renewing my NRA membership. Their policy seems to be to support any incumbent, regardless of party if they are “pro 2nd amendment”. For this reason, they withhold support from a challenger who may be a better candidate (and even more “pro 2nd amendment”) than the guy they endorse.


18 posted on 12/17/2012 1:13:18 PM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Hot Tabasco
So ...

Do YOU, PERSONALLY, endorse demonicRat Bastard Joe Manchin?

Chris Cox and NRA endorsed the slime-weasel.

19 posted on 12/17/2012 1:14:56 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: cotton1706
They didn’t.

That said I let my 30+ year membership go in 2010 when they did support two scummy dem congressional encumbents in CO.

20 posted on 12/17/2012 1:15:43 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Alaska Wolf

They backed Reid instead of the Republican challenger, Sharon Angle (sp)


21 posted on 12/17/2012 1:16:02 PM PST by drinktheobamakoolaid (Don't blame me, I voted for Romney!!!!!!!!)
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To: ArmyBratproud
The NRA will cave on "assault weapons". It's only a matter of time.
22 posted on 12/17/2012 1:19:40 PM PST by SENTINEL (I lie, I cheat, I steal, I communize, I sacrifice unborn babies, I'm Harry Reid and I'm a mormon)
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To: ArmyBratproud

What really pisses me off is that the liberals didn’t give the nation ten minutes to mourn before they started attackign conservatives for believing that the second amendment means what it says.

So, instead of mourning for the murdered children and offering words and prayers of condolence and comfort to the families and friends,we found ourselves feeling compelled to engage in political arguments with knuckleheads.


23 posted on 12/17/2012 1:22:44 PM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: ArmyBratproud
It's the National Rifle Association, not the National Republican Association. We exist to protect the second amendment, not to protect one political party over another. In the course of protecting the second amendment, it is necessary and tactically sound to work with individuals on both sides of the aisle especially when the Republicans can't manage to hold onto power. Through our efforts, we have been instrumental in advancing the pro-second amendment agenda in this country. Nobody has done more for firearms enthusiasts than the NRA.
24 posted on 12/17/2012 1:23:00 PM PST by RC one (FU liberals.)
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To: Alaska Wolf

The NRA got Harry Reid re-elected
How?

Because they supported the scumbag. And he milked that. His opponent may not have been the best but they could have supported her or at least failed to endorse him.


25 posted on 12/17/2012 1:25:13 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: SENTINEL
Their silence is deafening. I think this is the time you are speaking of.
26 posted on 12/17/2012 1:25:23 PM PST by Sybeck1 (Exodus 20:17)
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To: drinktheobamakoolaid
They backed Reid instead of the Republican challenger, Sharon Angle (sp)

The NRA backs the candidate with the highest pro gun rating. Some win and some don't. Is the NRA responsible for the defeat of those they support that don't win?

27 posted on 12/17/2012 1:25:32 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: ArmyBratproud

Go this site,must sign in and see what they are worth and what they pay their directors etc.

http://www.guidestar.org/SearchResults.aspx


28 posted on 12/17/2012 1:26:54 PM PST by tiger-one
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To: ArmyBratproud

Go this site,must sign in and see what they are worth and what they pay their directors etc.

http://www.guidestar.org/SearchResults.aspx


29 posted on 12/17/2012 1:27:03 PM PST by tiger-one
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To: ArmyBratproud

National RINO Association?

Right - let’s not talk about this.

In fact, we’ll never talk about it.

Let’s just surrender everything to the left.


30 posted on 12/17/2012 1:32:46 PM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: cotton1706
His opponent may not have been the best

The NRA endorses the candidate with the highest pro gun rating. The NRA is a proactive 2nd Amendment firearms organization, not a political organization. Is the NRA responsible for the defeat of every candidate they endorse that loses?

31 posted on 12/17/2012 1:33:33 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Sybeck1
Here is a real gun rights organization for anyone looking for a switch.

JPFO

32 posted on 12/17/2012 1:35:00 PM PST by SENTINEL (I lie, I cheat, I steal, I communize, I sacrifice unborn babies, I'm Harry Reid and I'm a mormon)
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To: Daveinyork
instead of mourning for the murdered children and offering words and prayers of condolence and comfort to the families and friends,we found ourselves feeling compelled to engage in political arguments with knuckleheads.

I felt the same way. I thought my opinion of the left could sink any lower, I was wrong.

33 posted on 12/17/2012 1:36:54 PM PST by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: ArmyBratproud

The NRA is right to be quiet before the dead are buried. The gun grabbers are showing their lack of respect for the dead and their primary cause of taking away people’s rights.


34 posted on 12/17/2012 1:38:55 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: ArmyBratproud

35 posted on 12/17/2012 1:38:59 PM PST by SENTINEL (I lie, I cheat, I steal, I communize, I sacrifice unborn babies, I'm Harry Reid and I'm a mormon)
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To: Alaska Wolf

“Is the NRA responsible for the defeat of every candidate they endorse that loses?”

No, they are not. But they’d have to be blind not to see that Harry Reid is not the “conservative” democrat he claimed he was. He’s a militant leftist who’s the majority leader of the senate and democrats are always anti-gun. Reid played just enough to get their endorsement. Wanna bet that an assault weapons ban will somehow come up for a vote in the Senate while they “haven’t had time” for lots of other legislation, budget, jobs, etc.


36 posted on 12/17/2012 1:40:33 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: ArrogantBustard
Do YOU, PERSONALLY, endorse demonicRat Bastard Joe Manchin?

To be quite frank, I don't know who the hell he is.....

37 posted on 12/17/2012 1:44:30 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: cotton1706
The NRA got Harry Reid re-elected.

No they didn't...........

Red State: NRA NOT endorsing Harry Reid

Fox News: No NRA Endorsement for Reid in Nevada Senate Race

38 posted on 12/17/2012 1:50:15 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To be quite frank, I don't know who the hell he is.....

Really?

Yet you vigorously defend the NRA, which endorsed him for US Senate.

Perhaps you should learn what sort of idiots you're defending.

39 posted on 12/17/2012 1:50:58 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Ok. Then my memory’s shot. I thought they had endorsed him.


40 posted on 12/17/2012 1:51:58 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: RC one
We exist to protect the second amendment,

And you do this by endorsing politicians from the "Ban All Guns" party.

Brilliant.

41 posted on 12/17/2012 1:52:36 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: RC one

We exist to protect the second amendment.

I’m with ya.

If you choose to do so, brace yourself and visit Democratic Underground. Liberals being against the 2nd Ammendment is not a slam-dunk. Some of the pro-gun Dems are just as vehement and vociferous as anyone in support of this inalienable right.


42 posted on 12/17/2012 1:56:24 PM PST by Paisan
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To: ArmyBratproud

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIJORBRpOPM

Joe Manchin’s ad accepting the NRA’s endorsement. Gee that didn’t turn around to bite them.


43 posted on 12/17/2012 1:56:40 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: ArmyBratproud

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIJORBRpOPM

Joe Manchin’s ad accepting the NRA’s endorsement. Gee that didn’t turn around to bite them.


44 posted on 12/17/2012 1:57:00 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: ArrogantBustard
Do YOU, PERSONALLY, endorse demonicRat Bastard Joe Manchin?

Now that I know who he is, let me ask YOU this:

What is it in Manchin's past stance on firearms that would cause the NRA to NOT endorse him in his last election?

45 posted on 12/17/2012 2:03:16 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: ArmyBratproud
Dingy Harry Reid was one.


46 posted on 12/17/2012 2:10:00 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: ArrogantBustard
We are the National Rifle Association, not the National Republican Association. In the real world, it is necessary to work with Democrats especially when the Republicans keep shooting themselves in the foot. It is, furthermore, extremely useful to prevent this issue from becoming strictly a Republican versus Democrat issue. If this were strictly a Republican versus Democrat issue, we could anticipate being about as effectual as the pro life movement. It's useful to have influence with both parties and this may be the only thing that actually preserves our RKBA after all of this.
47 posted on 12/17/2012 2:11:12 PM PST by RC one (FU liberals.)
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He's a member of the democRat Party ... therefore, he has signed up for this (from the 2012 Democratic National Platform):

Firearms. We recognize that the individual right to bear arms is an important part of the American tradition, and we will preserve Americans’ Second Amendment right to own and use firearms. We believe that the right to own firearms is subject to reasonable regulation. We understand the terrible consequences of gun violence; it serves as a reminder that life is fragile, and our time here is limited and precious. We believe in an honest, open national conversation about firearms. We can focus on effective enforcement of existing laws, especially strengthening our background check system, and we can work together to enact commonsense improvements – like reinstating the assault weapons ban and closing the gun show loophole – so that guns do not fall into the hands of those irresponsible, law-breaking few.

No politician, regardless of what he may have done, who does not explicitly repudiate that position, deserves an A+ rating or an endorsement.

Manchin tried to finesse the issue, pretending that signing some pro gun legislation that the Legislature shoved down his throat made him some sort of pro-gun conservative.

48 posted on 12/17/2012 2:13:11 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: RC one
We are the National Rifle Association,

You're apparently the National Assault Weapons Ban Association ... see quote from the 2012 Democratic National Platform, which your NRA A+ Rated, Endorsed Hero Joe Manchin supported by running as a democRat.

Quit trying to defend the indefensible. You, and the NRA in general, would be far better off to admit that you screwed up. It would have the benefit of being honest.

49 posted on 12/17/2012 2:16:44 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Paisan

Yeah, they’re working this tragedy for all it’s worth over there. I’m hoping that they continue to alienate and ostracize their members who actually support the RKBA so they’ll join us and turn against them.


50 posted on 12/17/2012 2:17:28 PM PST by RC one (FU liberals.)
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