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How would a new US ban on assault rifles work?
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Posted on 12/18/2012 2:27:27 PM PST by RC one

How would a ban on semi-automatic assault rifles work? That could well be a big issue in Congress next year in the wake of the tragic Newtown, Conn., school shooting.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D) of California says she will introduce legislation banning assault weapons as a first order of business when the next Congress convenes. It will be based upon a similar bill that lawmakers passed in 1994, banning the rifles for 10 years.

“It will be carefully focused on the most dangerous guns that have killed so many people over the years....

Feinstein’s legislation names specific models of rifles it would prohibit. According to a version of the bill she introduced in 2005, these would include rifles known as AK-47s, AR-15s, and Uzis, among others.

In addition, the Feinstein bill probably would ban the ownership, transfer, or manufacture of any rifle that is capable of accepting a detachable magazine...

The legislation also would prohibit sale or ownership of any ammo-feeding device such as a magazine or belt capable of holding more than 10 rounds.

This sounds comprehensive, but it is important to note that the legislation contains one very large loophole. As Feinstein notes in her press release, anyone who currently has a legally owned assault rifle would be able to keep it. It would be legal to continue to resell these weapons. So America’s assault rifle arsenal would not get much smaller. It would just not get any larger.

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: 2012; banglist; democrats; doa; guncontrol; youwillnotdisarmus
well, we said he would go after guns in his second term and it appears it will be his highest priority. They aren't listening to reason. The people who should be fighting this aren't. it's time to get busy gun owners. We need to make it clear that any politician who supports this BS will be fired in 2014.
1 posted on 12/18/2012 2:27:32 PM PST by RC one
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To: RC one
It will be carefully focused on the most dangerous guns that have killed so many people over the years.

she must mean cheap handguns because that is what has killed the vast majority of people over the years. assault rifles, by contrast, have killed less than 1% of all the people killed with firearms since 1992.

2 posted on 12/18/2012 2:30:25 PM PST by RC one (FU liberals.)
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To: RC one

WTF?

The story claims the ownership, sale or transfer of rifles with detachable magazines would be prohibited, but current owners of “assault rifles” would be able to keep or sell them.

Which is it?


3 posted on 12/18/2012 2:32:11 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: RC one

Say bye-bye bullet button for some of us. . .
I mean them...


4 posted on 12/18/2012 2:35:22 PM PST by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: RC one

In addition, the Feinstein bill probably would ban the ownership, transfer, or manufacture of any rifle that is capable of accepting a detachable magazine...


Soooo... Tell me how are they going to do this without having a National Firearms Database?

I think Rocco and his magic car trunk are going to be doing a booming business in un-recorded firearm transactions. Let alone ammunition sales.


5 posted on 12/18/2012 2:38:34 PM PST by The Working Man
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To: RC one

“We need to make it clear that any politician who supports this BS will be fired in 2014.”

That worked so well for us with Obamacare...

And the debt ceiling...

And...


6 posted on 12/18/2012 2:42:11 PM PST by bolobaby (Hostess closes? Atlas just shrugged in yo&apos; faces, union beyotches!)
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To: RC one

7 posted on 12/18/2012 2:43:07 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: bolobaby

the original AWB cost the gun grabbers heavily. They were culled in the mid term election.


8 posted on 12/18/2012 2:44:56 PM PST by RC one (FU liberals.)
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To: RC one

***“It will be carefully focused on the most dangerous guns that have killed so many people over the years....***

WATCH OUT! The devil is in the details.
Years ago it was found most people were killed with a .22 rimfire.


9 posted on 12/18/2012 2:46:45 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Reopen the mental institutions! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: The Working Man
I think this will be a political football that ultimately won't survive both chambers of Congress.
We have just enough in the house along with a handful of pro gun or scared rats.
And the stalling and amendment process in the senate won't make that a walk in the park.
Plus the GOP knows they are absolute history in the primaries if they support this.
I think this is a cynical ploy for all sides to make a ton of money fund raising.
10 posted on 12/18/2012 2:46:45 PM PST by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: RC one

11 posted on 12/18/2012 2:47:08 PM PST by Jayster
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To: RC one
I read about a professor Jim Al-Khalili who was investigating the universe looking to find that.. er, whatever.. that is simultaneously nothing and everything.

He can stop looking. We got it here.

The assault weapon.

There is no such thing available to the general public.. but if you are a Rat it is everything firearm.

12 posted on 12/18/2012 2:49:45 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: RC one

The only problem with this is that there is no will in either House of Congress for gun control. The public does not want it and they all know it.

Diane Feinstein has introduced this type of legislation 3-4 times previously. It will get stuck in committee indefinitely.


13 posted on 12/18/2012 2:57:57 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Jayster

Ban heroines?


14 posted on 12/18/2012 3:02:41 PM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: RC one

here is a link to the bill http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/110/hr1022/text


15 posted on 12/18/2012 3:07:03 PM PST by jrd (DO AWAY WITH THE EPA)
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To: RC one

“In addition, the Feinstein bill probably would ban the ownership, transfer, or manufacture of any rifle that is capable of accepting a detachable magazine.”

So a Ruger 10/22 is out?


16 posted on 12/18/2012 3:07:03 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: DuncanWaring
The story claims the ownership, sale or transfer of rifles with detachable magazines would be prohibited, but current owners of “assault rifles” would be able to keep or sell them.

Which is it?

As is most liberal legislation, it's purposely ambiguous and vague.

They'll "have to pass it to know what's in it."

17 posted on 12/18/2012 3:08:24 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“The only problem with this is that there is no will in either House of Congress for gun control. The public does not want it and they all know it.”

The existing laws are sufficiently vauge, Obama could ban them by having the ATF enact regulations.

Stroke of a pen. He’s done it before.


18 posted on 12/18/2012 3:11:29 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: RC one

This bill had better be “DOA” in the House.


19 posted on 12/18/2012 3:12:30 PM PST by Patriot365
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To: RC one

Amendment 2

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infring


20 posted on 12/18/2012 3:14:58 PM PST by DownInFlames
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To: Patriot365

I have written my representative already and told him how much I appreciated his past support for the second amendment and how much I appreciate his future support for the second amendment. Bob Latta of Ohio’s fifth district has an outstanding conservative record overall and is definitely a strong defender of the second amendment.


21 posted on 12/18/2012 3:22:47 PM PST by RC one (FU liberals.)
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To: RC one

My long-standing advice remains: Decide where your “line in the sand” is, what you will do *when* it is crossed, and plan accordingly.


22 posted on 12/18/2012 3:34:38 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: RC one
In addition, the Feinstein bill probably would ban the ownership, transfer, or manufacture of any rifle that is capable of accepting a detachable magazine.

You going to enforce it Diane? You're pretty dumb for many reasons.

23 posted on 12/18/2012 3:38:04 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: RC one
Are Fema guns assault type weapons?
24 posted on 12/18/2012 3:39:37 PM PST by jetson
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To: RC one

I don’t hear the wacko left liberals complaining about Putin building two new AK-47 Plants in Venezuela.


25 posted on 12/18/2012 3:56:03 PM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: RC one

I don’t hear the wacko left liberals complaining about Putin building two new AK-47 Plants in Venezuela.


26 posted on 12/18/2012 3:56:16 PM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: RC one
anyone who currently has a legally owned assault rifle would be able to keep it

And she's going to do what about those illegally kept by hussein's sons?

27 posted on 12/18/2012 3:57:19 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: RC one
How does it work? It probably means they move the UN small arms treaty forward at light speed to obama's desk during the holidays when no one is in DC and no one is watching, side stepping the opposition.

That's the only way it happens. In a crazy world, with an increasing magnitude of crazy by the day, why would I want to disarm myself?

Why would I want a politician to disarm me??? Isn't that surrender?

Check the gun sales. People like guns, but that doesn't explain the records sales of the last few years.

If you make the world safer and more sane, people will disarm themselves.

Until we get to safe and sane again, good luck getting people to give up anything.

28 posted on 12/18/2012 4:13:36 PM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Jewbacca

I’d hate to be an ATF agent if that were to happen. Lot’s of folks out there who really, really wouldn’t take too kindly to a visit from the ATF. Shoot, bury, cover, keep quite. “ATF agents, uh, let me think. Yeah, they were here, aksed me a few questions and then they left”

My guess is that when we go over the “fiscal cliff” all of this will be quickly forgotten as we hear heartbreaking stories of millions of lazy f**ks not getting their EBT cards replentished. Now, THAT my friends, will be a real tragedy.


29 posted on 12/18/2012 4:14:00 PM PST by technically right
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To: RC one
How does it work? It probably means they move the UN small arms treaty forward at light speed to obama's desk during the holidays when no one is in DC and no one is watching, side stepping the opposition.

That's the only way it happens. In a crazy world, with an increasing magnitude of crazy by the day, why would I want to disarm myself?

Why would I want a politician to disarm me??? Isn't that surrender?

Check the gun sales. People like guns, but that doesn't explain the records sales of the last few years.

If you make the world safer and more sane, people will disarm themselves.

Until we get to safe and sane again, good luck getting people to give up anything.

30 posted on 12/18/2012 4:14:00 PM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: bgill

Well, they’ll just have to turn those in - no two ways about it.

Don’t be silly.


31 posted on 12/18/2012 4:14:46 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: RC one

1. What is statutory, functional definition of an assault rifle?
2. Is not “semi-automatic assault rifle” a contradiction in terminology?
3. Have we been told the style of firearm ACTUALLY used in the Newtown shooting?


32 posted on 12/18/2012 4:46:56 PM PST by Elsiejay
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To: RC one

You first, Mizzzzzz Feinstein,

http://mrctv.org/videos/feinstein-1995-her-concealed-carry-permit-i-know-urge-arm-yourself-because-thats-what-i-did


33 posted on 12/18/2012 5:01:24 PM PST by Bradĺs Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: RC one
At worst, they would ban all military style weapons and require you to turn them in. Or they might require you to go through the same kind of background check and pay a tax, like they already do for suppressors and full auto weapons now.

Probably make you keep them locked-up too.

34 posted on 12/18/2012 5:06:23 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: technically right

And potentially SCARY tragedy.

When EBT cards are not reloaded, people will get angry and seek reparations in whatever form they can.


35 posted on 12/18/2012 5:51:25 PM PST by NOVACPA
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To: RC one

Out of the 12,000 people killed by firearms last year there were only 300 by use of a long gun or rifle .


36 posted on 12/18/2012 6:16:25 PM PST by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism & Communism are the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: Lionheartusa1
and of those rifles, how many were actually AR15 style assault rifles? maybe one or two? Maybe none? I only heard about one assault rifle wielding maniac in 2011 and that was in Norway.

75% of those murders were committed with cheap handguns, knives, blunt objects, and hand and feet by black or Mexican gang banger types who couldn't pass a background check to legally buy a firearm.

Yet the democrats feel a need to take away from middle class white guys the weapon used almost never to commit murder? It has never been more obvious to me that we do have a need for assault rifles in this country.

37 posted on 12/18/2012 6:24:17 PM PST by RC one (FU liberals.)
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To: RC one

Since Obama has all the money in the world to spend he will pen into law illegally of course but then nobody opposes him that a very hefty reward shall be given for any defined assault rifle and even bigger rewards to those who turn in holdouts.
Lets say he offers $5,000 for any AR15 rifle, just how many people are going to pass that up for patriotism? especially when they are out of work, its not ridiculous, its idiotic for any conservative to NOT think they won’t use our own taxes against us.

Any bribery from Obamacare waivers to outrageous buy back prices. make the people, the weak willed ones turn in the ones they know who are armed. Obama is illogical and unpredictable but in a predictable fashion. He will use the entitlement crowds as his private snitch army.


38 posted on 12/18/2012 6:28:20 PM PST by Eye of Unk (A Civil Cold War in America is here, its already been declared.)
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To: Mr Rogers
LOL! Good catch!
39 posted on 12/18/2012 8:48:34 PM PST by Jayster
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To: RC one

“It will be carefully focused on the most dangerous (things) that have killed so many people over the years....”

Guess she means abortion and the family car...


40 posted on 12/19/2012 2:49:59 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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