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Marriage Decline Weakens Middle Class
Newsmax ^ | Wednesday, 19 Dec 2012 10:27 AM | Kathleen Parker

Posted on 12/19/2012 11:58:34 PM PST by Olog-hai

As politicians compete to prove who loves the middle class more, they’re missing the elephant and the donkey in the room.

The middle class needs not just tax breaks and jobs, but also marriage.

This is the finding of a new University of Virginia and Institute for American Values report, “The State of Our Unions,” which tracks the decline of marriage among the nearly 60 percent of Americans who have high school but not college educations.

This not only has far-reaching societal repercussions, but economic as well. By one estimate cited in the report, which was authored by five family scholars, the cost to taxpayers when stable families fail to form is about $112 billion annually—or more than $1 trillion per decade. …

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KEYWORDS: family

1 posted on 12/19/2012 11:58:38 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
This not only has far-reaching societal repercussions, but economic as well. By one estimate cited in the report, which was authored by five family scholars, the cost to taxpayers when stable families fail to form is about $112 billion annually — or more than $1 trillion per decade.

Atlas shrugging takes many forms.

2 posted on 12/20/2012 12:07:09 AM PST by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: Olog-hai

We’re only about a generation away from being a giant ghetto.


3 posted on 12/20/2012 12:53:40 AM PST by Catmom
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To: Catmom

Well, duh. It is much more financially lucrative to “not” marry.

As I have said on this forum for TEN YEARS now, to derision of the snotty class: We have our own people who need jobs that will pay a wage that takes care of a family. These are people who are not cut out for college or a high-paying trade. There are tens of millions of them...and our imbecilic leaders have given away their meager dreams to China & a bunch of usurping Mexicans.

I wonder what these geniuses expected to happen when a single mother has a better lifestyle on “benefits” than she would if she married the Father?

This should be titled “Marriage Declines Due to the Weakened Middle Class.”


4 posted on 12/20/2012 1:29:04 AM PST by garandgal
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To: garandgal

The marriage decline happened first, though.


5 posted on 12/20/2012 1:42:58 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: SIDENET

I think most people don’t even want to consider that possibility.


6 posted on 12/20/2012 1:43:36 AM PST by MetaThought
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To: Olog-hai

The children of the middle class need marriage too. Fatherless families have produce a class of adult males with the moral comprehension of children.

While the stigma of out of wedlock pregnancy has been diminished to the point of zero so has the one hope a young boy might have for some direction in his life while growing up fatherless.


7 posted on 12/20/2012 2:05:27 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Olog-hai

When did Kathleen Parker decide to be conservative again? Wasn’t she the turncoat from CNN? AKA the female David Frum/David Brooks?


8 posted on 12/20/2012 2:21:56 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Olog-hai

Political mavens have been all over to explain Romney’s loss to Obama, but few, if any, have cited the rise of single parent households which I believe has an enormous influence on which party will prevail.


9 posted on 12/20/2012 2:34:43 AM PST by monocle
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To: Olog-hai

The maturing process that comes from making a marriage work helps in other areas of life as well. People that resist marriage so they don’t have to grow up only hurt themselves. People that marry but refuse to mature unfortunately hurt others as well.


10 posted on 12/20/2012 3:30:39 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: count-your-change

Well my boy is 4 and is hrowing up in a two parent house and it seems most of the kids in his preschool are two parent houses. Granted, it is and expensive private school right next to an Air Force Base, buy there isn’t zero hope, just a slim hope.


11 posted on 12/20/2012 3:37:04 AM PST by wolfman23601
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To: Olog-hai
The marriage decline happened first, though.

No it did not...maybe amongst black families, but no other. Perhaps you were confused when I said that I had been pointing this out for ten years..I am an early Freeper from back in 2001.

This economic mayhem for the middle class has been GOING ON since the 80's; I should have been more clear.

It's really quite simple. When Daddy makes enough to provide a better lifestyle than Uncle Sam, there will be marriage...as in anything else in life...follow the money.

12 posted on 12/20/2012 4:08:59 AM PST by garandgal
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13 posted on 12/20/2012 4:11:54 AM PST by narses
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14 posted on 12/20/2012 4:12:18 AM PST by narses
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To: garandgal

It definitely goes back further. The divorce culture was really roaring back into vogue post-WWII (since there was no legal no-fault, a great deal of the divorces were “uncontested”), and the welfare state stuck the knife in deeper. Economic prosperity does not cause strong families; it’s the other way around, and that is why the Founding Fathers stressed religion and private morality, not Mammon.


15 posted on 12/20/2012 4:12:38 AM PST by Olog-hai
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16 posted on 12/20/2012 4:13:26 AM PST by narses
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To: Olog-hai

Big government fouls everything it touches. Somehow that truth gets lost on people here when it comes to using big government to meddle in the private lives of others. Marriage should be a pact between the two people involved and their church with the only legal consideration being the seamless trasfer of assets upon the death of one spouse.

But instead you all demand that it be a federal public/private partnership, complete with permission slips from the feds, middle class welfare payments and incentives to the states to break up more than half of those partnerships.

It might feel good to blame this mess on the homosexuals and gangsta rap, but every effort you make to get the government to “save” an institution where it has zero constitutional authority only makes matters worse.


17 posted on 12/20/2012 4:36:48 AM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Olog-hai

...authored by five family scholars....

&&&
Odd phrasing.

I have a huge extended family, as my parents had 9 children. So, at any given time, I can probably name 5 family scholars.


18 posted on 12/20/2012 4:51:24 AM PST by Bigg Red (Sorry, Mr. Franklin, I guess we couldn't keep it.)
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To: Olog-hai

That’s okay with most politically active adults. Perpetually amorous Sandra Fluke has free birth control, and that is the priority for 51% of voters (a substantial percentage of whom are customers of hers).


19 posted on 12/20/2012 5:01:43 AM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Olog-hai
I don't know why other people aren't getting married, but I'm not getting married because women are awful. Everyone balks about homosexuals trying to redefine marriage, but they are only following the example of women before them.

Wives aren't supposed to be "partners," and they certainly aren't supposed to be bosses. Wives are supposed to be chaste, subordinate, kind, gentle keepers or the home and children. In case you hadn't noticed, women are tyrannical thugs who hate children, and hate their homes. They dump kids in God-forsaken public schools, or worse, murder them before they are even born, so they can be "free" to escape their responsibilities at home. The ones that bother to earn money instead of collecting child support and welfare use it to fill their debt-heavy home with cheap Chinese garbage. And I'm supposed to not only accept all this evil, I'm supposed to adjust my life to better accommodate her plans. No thanks.

You can blame government all day, but I doubt highly that government can force women to be awful, materialistic child-haters. It is clearly their natural state.

20 posted on 12/20/2012 6:28:19 AM PST by Anti-Utopian ("Come, let's away to prison; We two alone will sing like birds I' th' cage." -King Lear [V,iii,6-8])
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To: Anti-Utopian

Well bless your heart!


21 posted on 12/20/2012 6:31:23 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Olog-hai

Excellent point. Recently ran into a kid I grew up with in the old neighborhood. I don’t think he finished high-school (has a GED maybe). Some other members of the family became criminal near-do-wells. But he is doing well.

Main reasons are 1) he has remained steadily employed since becoming an adult, and 2) he married well and stayed married to a very smart girl who has deftly managed their household affairs.


22 posted on 12/20/2012 6:32:31 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Anti-Utopian

There are good women out there. Don’t paint them all with such a broad brush. Be patient and look in the right places. If there are married women you like, ask them if they have any single friends that are like them. Join church singles’ groups. And don’t rule out dating services. I know several very compatible and contented couples who met via a dating service.

I’m sure there are women out there who would like to be what you would like them to be. I know several young women in my family who are exactly as you describe and, even though they are well educated and have put their careers on hold, they are very happy at this stage in their lives being stay at home moms (even home schooling their children).


23 posted on 12/20/2012 6:53:43 AM PST by randita
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To: Olog-hai

“The marriage decline happened first, though.”

It may be elites at the top of the society rejecting the Christian religion and adopting secular objectivism as the moral code began the process. Once Christian morals and values were rejected, the “glue” that held society together began to erode. Without a standard of behavior generally accepted by society and enforced by both law and peer pressure, people began shirking personal accountability. Weakening the bonds of marriage - the acceptance of “no fault divorce”, followed by the widespread acceptance of sex before marriage, and then the widespread acceptance of childbirth out of wedlock, have destroyed marriage as an institution that helps to hold society together. Men no longer have a moral or legal obligation to women with whom they procreate — the government now fulfills the role. Children conceived and “nurtured” as wards of the state become slaves of the state and will not become productive members of the middle class as they will not be taught middle class values.


24 posted on 12/20/2012 7:15:25 AM PST by Soul of the South
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To: Olog-hai

Evil if you’re a conservative, twice evil if you’re white, three evils if you’re male, and the soul of all that’s wrong with our society if you’re single. When marriage was the norm men were at fault for disempowering and dominating women. When divorce was the norm men were at fault for not making women feel complete. Now avoiding the whole affair is becoming the norm and men are responsible for the downfall of society.

I wouldn’t be so quick to fault some men for rising from a game that is constantly dealing to them from the bottom of the deck. However, men should never shirk their responsibilities. It’s all in what the “aggrieved gender” thinks the “faulty gender”, should be responsible for. In many relationships it’s simply everything the superior gender doesn’t want to be responsible for, herself.

Leviticus 16:22 “He is to lay both hands on the head of the live goat and confess over it all the wickedness and rebellion of the Israelites—all their sins—and put them on the goat’s head. He shall send the goat away into the wilderness in the care of someone appointed for the task. 22 The goat will carry on itself all their sins to a remote place; and the man shall release it in the wilderness.”

Receptionist: How do you write women so well?
Melvin Udall: I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.


25 posted on 12/20/2012 7:34:48 AM PST by fattigermaster
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To: Anti-Utopian

“I don’t know why other people aren’t getting married, but I’m not getting married because women are awful.”

I know a young woman in her upper 20’s who has a charming personality, loves children and wants to be a mother someday, preferably a stay at home mother. She works two jobs, one full time and one part time, and is saving her money for her future. She has high morals, is saving herself for her husband, and is conservative in her politics.

However, her prospects for the future she desires are low. She finds most “men” of her age have no desire to settle down in a traditional marriage. All they want from a woman is a free roll in the hay before returning to their video games, televised sports, and bar hopping. They buy expensive cars and are up to their ears in credit card debt and student loans. They have no interest in settling down and raising a family.

Today’s man/boys don’t know how to respect and cherish a moral and loving female. Men who try to bed every woman they meet cannot value chastity when they find it. How does one suddenly shift from having no standards to living the highest standard? How can a virtuous female trust a non virtuous male?

I disagree with your statement that “wives aren’t supposed to be partners.” Marriage is a partnership, a contract before God and society between two people for eternity. It is not a relationship in which the male is the boss and female is the slave. Each member of the marriage contract has responsibilities to each other. In your description of the ideal marriage I have a clear understanding of your definition of the female role but I have zero understanding of what the male role should be in the relationship other than “boss”. If your concept of being “subordinate” means the female is a slave, undeserving of respect or love, I suspect few women will sign up for this type of relationship. The young woman I described above is certainly not seeking to become a slave to a man who has no obligation to her her in the relationship and seeks only to be her master.


26 posted on 12/20/2012 7:42:26 AM PST by Soul of the South
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To: Soul of the South

Take a look at the movies from that period. They were openly promoting out-of-wedlock pregnancies, the “horrors” of illicit abortions, quickie divorces, all that stuff, long before any of it was legal.


27 posted on 12/20/2012 10:15:25 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Soul of the South
See what I mean? This woman even went so far as to claim there is a Biblical definition of wife as "partner" (there is none), and then proceeded to describe the actual subordinate wives of the Bible as "slaves." They weren't.

No matter what you say about our terrible government, they haven't censored or banned Bibles yet, nor have they redefined "slavery" in the dictionary. This is pure woman-talk right here, and I've heard it a thousand times. Thanks for the encouragement, but no thanks.

28 posted on 12/20/2012 7:51:07 PM PST by Anti-Utopian ("Come, let's away to prison; We two alone will sing like birds I' th' cage." -King Lear [V,iii,6-8])
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To: monocle

Good point.


29 posted on 12/20/2012 7:54:18 PM PST by thecodont
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To: Anti-Utopian

“women are tyrannical thugs who hate children, and hate their homes.”

When I was a young man, they weren’t. Blame “feminism” (aka women’s lib) for the transformation.


30 posted on 12/20/2012 9:11:09 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Anti-Utopian

“women are tyrannical thugs who hate children, and hate their homes.”

When I was a young man, they weren’t. Blame “feminism” (aka women’s lib) for the transformation.


31 posted on 12/20/2012 9:11:32 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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