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The Survival Doctor Ultimate Emergency Medical Infographic
Preparing For SHTF ^ | 12/20/12 | The Survival Doctor

Posted on 12/20/2012 6:20:03 PM PST by Kartographer

Here is a list of some of the items:
24 U.S. Military Field Style Medic Instrument Kit
Surgical Disposable Sterile Skin Stapler w/Enhanced
Control, 35 Preloaded Staples
Sawyer Personal Water Bottle Filter 1 Liter
Black Diamond Icon Headlamp (Silver)
SAM Medical Splint (Pack of 2)

(Excerpt) Read more at prepforshtf.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: prepparedness; preppers
My personal recommendations:
Elite First Aid Large M17 Medic Bag

Contents List:

1 EFA First Aid Book

20 Pill Bottles

100 Bandage Strips, 1"x3"

14 Pain Relievers

10 Bandage Strips, 2"x4"

4 Triple Antibiotic Packages

10 Knuckle Bandages

4 First Aid Cream Packages

10 Butterfly Strips

2 Burn Aid Packages

4 Bandage Gauzes, 2"x6 Yards

1 SAM/Universal Splint

4 Elastic Bandages, 6"

1 EMT Shears, 7.25"

2 Triangular Bandage

1 Pair of Tweezers

3 Field Dressings

1 Stethoscope

4 Multi Trauma Dressings 12"x30"

1 Tourniquet

1 Blood Stopper Kit

1 Scalpel handle #3

4 Sterile Pads, 4"x4"

2 Scalpel Baldes

10 Sterile Pads, 2"x2"

1 Skin Probe

10 Abdominal Pads, 5"x9"

2 Stainless Steel hemostats

2 Eye Pads

1 Pen Light

15 Alcohol Wipes

2 Suture Sets

15 Iodine Wipes

5 Tape, Rolls, Adhesive, 1"

15 Antiseptic BZK Wipes

2 Tongue Depressors

15 Clean Wipes

2 Airways

6 After Bite Wipes

2 Ammonia Inhalants

1 Burn Spray

1 CPR Mask

1 Petroleum jelly

2 Irrigation Syringes

1 Lip Treatment

3 Instant Ice Packs

1 Calamine Lotion, 6 oz.

6 Safety Pins

1 Sterile Flushing Solution

1 Box of Sponges, 4" x4"

1 Hand Sanitizer

1 Box of 100 Cotton Tips

1 Hand Soap

6 Pairs Latex Examination Gloves

Or at least:

M3 Medic Bag First Aid Kit

Contents List:

1 EFA First Aid Instructions

10 Pill Bottle

16 Bandage Strips, 1"x3"

10 Pain relievers

2 Bandage Gauzes, 2"x4", 5 yards

2 Triple Antibiotic Packages

1 Elastic Bandage, 6"

2 First Aid Cream Packages

1 Triangular Bandage 40"x40"x56"

1 Burn Aid Package

1 Field Dressing

2 Tape Rolls, Adhesive

4 Sterile Sponges, 4"x4"

1 SAM/Universal Splint

4 Abdominal Pads, 5"x9"

1 tourniquet

1 Eye Pad

1 Emt Shears, 7.25"

16 Alcohol Wipes

1 Pair of Tweezers

15 Iodine Wipes

1 Stainless steel Hemostat, 5"

15 Antiseptic BZK Wipes

1 Suture Set

15 clean Wipes

1 Irrigation Syringe

1 Lip Treatment

2 Tongue Depressors

1 Sterile Flushing Solution

1 Airway

1 Hand Soap

2 Instant Ice Packs

6 Safety Pins

2 Pairs Latex Examination Gloves

1 posted on 12/20/2012 6:20:13 PM PST by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 12/20/2012 6:22:09 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


3 posted on 12/20/2012 6:22:28 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Nice rig.


4 posted on 12/20/2012 6:22:42 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Kartographer

Nice rig.


5 posted on 12/20/2012 6:23:34 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Kartographer

Nice rig.


6 posted on 12/20/2012 6:23:54 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Kartographer

Nice rig.


7 posted on 12/20/2012 6:23:54 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Kartographer

8 posted on 12/20/2012 6:32:16 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Kartographer

Where do you buy those ?


9 posted on 12/20/2012 6:32:55 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: PMAS

Amazon.


10 posted on 12/20/2012 6:55:15 PM PST by glock rocks (Pro Deo et Constitutione - Libertas aut Mors)
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To: PMAS

Also

http://www.wildbillwholesale.com

http://www.bargainbacker.com/Elite-FA110OD-M-17-Medic-Bag-—Olive-Drab

http://shop.vtarmynavy.com/large-m17-medic-bag-kit-p6008.aspx?
utm_medium=cse&utm_source=googlebase&gclid=CNLPovG_qrQCFcuZ4Aod9h4AxQ

http://www.katerno.com/detail.php?s=243952


11 posted on 12/20/2012 7:02:33 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

That’s definitely more like what I am thinking about. I already have a lot of stuff for minor accidents, so I just need some of the other stuff. Especially for bleeding issues. I would have come in handy when Hubby’s thumb tangled with the chain saw.


12 posted on 12/20/2012 7:08:47 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

I=It


13 posted on 12/20/2012 7:13:10 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Kartographer

I have nothing against such kits - was a Corpsman once, and an MD now - but I think they need to be more practically thought out in terms of the actual situations that we will face, which will likely NOT include evacuation to a military field hospital, nor a need to mess with relatively useless feel-good stuff like Calamine lotion, alcohol wipes, a CPR mask, lip balm, instant ice packs, burn spray, first aid creme packages, ammonia inhalants, etc.

If SHTF, most who die will do so either immediately from trauma, or because the people where they live are not prepared for definitive or long-term recovery from serious trauma and illness. Few of us are going to be out running ops - at least at my age - and anyone living out of a bug-out bag or first aid kit for long has a poor prognosis with any but the most rudimentary illness or injury, IMO.

Many, perhaps most, who die will do so from diarrhea due to adequate safe food and water supplies. Lots of Imodium may help, but fluid replacement enemas (recipes available online) can be life saving when IV fluids are unavailable and oral fluids can’t be kept down. Preventive attention to sanitation and such are, or course, the best treatments here.

Serious wound and burn care requires at least some knowledge of debridement and wound care technique, which anyone can learn, and will entail frequent dressing changes with topical antibiotic ointments or silver sulfadiazine. Informed use of crude anesthetic agents and sedatives (even alcohol, in a pinch) and oral antibiotics, can be lifesaving.

Common communicable illnesses will be rampant, and many can easily kill when contracted by a person lacking adequate food, water, clothing, rest, etc. Most still retain enough susceptibility to common antibiotics, and a rudimentary knowledge of such, and a bulk supply via a sympathetic doctor, can make a huge difference. For exotic biologic warfare agents (and lots else) doxycycline is good to have around.

Hope that helps.


14 posted on 12/20/2012 7:21:42 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: dagogo redux

“Few of us are going to be out running ops “

Well, most of us regardless of age are not going to wait around for the bad guys to attack us.


15 posted on 12/20/2012 7:40:27 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: dagogo redux

Best post of the day!


16 posted on 12/20/2012 7:46:08 PM PST by FoxPro
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To: Kartographer; All
To all: Let me put this in a gentle way:

IF YOU DON'T HAVE CELOX, BUY SOME! It's on Amazon, plus you can put it in search and buy straight from the company.

What is it? IT STOPS BLEEDING! Celox is used on the battlefield to stop bleeding. Comes in little packets. Pour it on a cut and the blood stops almost immediately. There are also thin pads but they cost more and are more for walking/hiking and they don't stop blood as fast, as the product is spread through the pad, not concentrated like the packet.

Kart, you have “1 Blood Stopper Kit”. If that is just pressure bandages, get Celox. It probably has Celox or the other brand in there and I'm sure you know if it's there.

To all: If there is no doctor: If you are treating a large cut, you usually apply pressure to try to limit the bleeding, but if it is bleeding profusely, tear open a packet of Celox, pour it in the wound and the bleeding stops, just like that. You patient will feel emotionally better when the bleeding stops.

Clean the wound, use more Celox if you need to, then treat it with antibiotic ointment or cream and close the wound with Steri-Strips or Butterfly strips, or use a stapler and staples if it's really big (put Sterile Stapler in search at Amazon. You will find the staplers and pullers and also kits with the stapler and puller together.) If you use the Strips, replace any that come off and some may do that.

Then put a bandage over the whole thing to keep out dirt. Put more antibiotic ointment/cream on it for several days. After a couple of days, leave off the big bandage so the wound can dry.

Really, if I had to pick one thing out of all my EMT medical supplies, I'd pick Celox.

I have friends in the Texas hill country and they live out in the boonies on top of a high hill. He takes blood thinners and I had them get Celox for him. Medical care is a long way from him and a cut on him bleeds like crazy.

I see “airways” your list of items. If those are the plastic airways, don't use one unless someone has shown you how to put a plastic airway down someone’s throat. Perhaps you have an instruction sheet but be absolutely sure what you are doing.

That is to keep the airway open, but checking the tongue to make sure that has not gone into the throat is the first thing to check before you think of putting an airway in. I don't think anyone should put that airway in without some practice on a dummy (and I don't mean your wife).

In an emergency situation with no medical help, the worst thing to do is CLIMB. A fall can damage the brain and break arms/legs. Do not climb. Do not let your children climb.

17 posted on 12/20/2012 7:56:00 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Galt is freedom.)
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To: greeneyes

See post 17.


18 posted on 12/20/2012 8:04:02 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Galt is freedom.)
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To: glock rocks

I don’t buy from Amazon because their CEO Jeff Bezos donated $1 Million to help pass gay marriage and legalize marijuana this past election.
Aazon has also permited child predators to publish books through their site - I would happily pay more for the same item elsewhere


19 posted on 12/20/2012 8:04:12 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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20 posted on 12/20/2012 8:06:21 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: dagogo redux

Assuming one had such a sympathetic doctor, a supply of cephalexin, suture kits/locals.... What else would you recommend - particularly in the way of antibiotics?


21 posted on 12/20/2012 8:13:13 PM PST by Rio (Tempis Fugit.)
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To: Kartographer

Bump!


22 posted on 12/20/2012 8:18:24 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Cigarettes are like squirrels: Perfectly harmless until you put one in your mouth and set it on fire)
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To: CodeToad

“Well, most of us regardless of age are not going to wait around for the bad guys to attack us.”

Where, exactly are you going to go, and with whom, and to what end?

Besides setting up a perimeter initially, and occasional recon a bit further out, I doubt you’re going to accomplish much by wading out into the unknown looking for trouble.

What’s your long-term strategy for winning SHTF, besides merely surviving, and starting slowly again?

You gonna be marching with a band of brothers to go reclaim D.C. ? You gonna be fighting your way to some oil refinery to get the fuel flowing again, or take over some power plant and start restoring the grid?


23 posted on 12/20/2012 8:30:01 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: dagogo redux

how does one find a sympathetic doctor


24 posted on 12/20/2012 8:35:34 PM PST by Michigan Bowhunter (Fix Bayonetts!!!!!!! Time to fight!!!!!)
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To: Rio

You don’t need a doctor to get antibiotics.

Www.fishmoxflex.com

All of the basics available for discreet shipping right to your door. No prescription needed. And they’re made in exactly the same factories and subject to all the same quality standards as the products intended for human consumption.


25 posted on 12/20/2012 8:41:04 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Kartographer

save


26 posted on 12/20/2012 8:52:24 PM PST by varina davis (A real American patriot -- Gov. Rick Perry)
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To: Lurker
Is this what you were going for?

http://www.fishmoxfishflex.com/

All of the products we sell are for fish or birds only and do not require a prescription.

Interesting source. Thanks.

27 posted on 12/20/2012 9:04:00 PM PST by Rio (Tempis Fugit.)
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To: Rio

Yes it is was I was going for. I’ve done business with them.


28 posted on 12/20/2012 9:10:37 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Michigan Bowhunter
how does one find a sympathetic doctor?

You marry his daughter.

29 posted on 12/20/2012 9:11:21 PM PST by Rio (Tempis Fugit.)
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To: PMAS

Hell, sorry.


30 posted on 12/20/2012 9:26:01 PM PST by glock rocks (Pro Deo et Constitutione - Libertas aut Mors)
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To: Marcella

Thanks, I wasn’t sure what the name was.


31 posted on 12/21/2012 3:14:15 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Marcella

Thanks for the info. I’ll be adding that to my stash.


32 posted on 12/21/2012 4:58:05 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: glock rocks

No worries, most people don’t know ths stuff about Amazon - I’m just letting people know.


33 posted on 12/21/2012 6:11:23 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: glock rocks

I was wrong about the $1 Million, it was $2.5 Million

Amazon founder donates $2.5 million to same-sex ‘marriage’ campaign
Amazon’s Founder Pledges $2.5 Million in Support of Same-Sex Marriage

Feds should probe Amazon pedophile ‘how-to’ book: Concerned Women
Pedophile Guide on Amazon is Just the Tip of the Iceberg

Amazon.com Defends Selling Pedophile’s How-To Handbook

Book Defending Pedophilia For Sale On Amazon (And That’s Not All!)


34 posted on 12/21/2012 6:34:42 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: glock rocks

Articles with links:
Amazon founder donates $2.5 million to same-sex ‘marriage’ campaign
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2912997/posts

Amazon’s Founder Pledges $2.5 Million in Support of Same-Sex Marriage
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2911365/posts

Feds should probe Amazon pedophile ‘how-to’ book: Concerned Women
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2634634/posts

Pedophile Guide on Amazon is Just the Tip of the Iceberg http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2625585/posts

Amazon.com Defends Selling Pedophile’s How-To Handbook http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2625260/posts

Book Defending Pedophilia For Sale On Amazon (And That’s Not All!) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2625260/posts


35 posted on 12/21/2012 6:40:03 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: Lurker

so which ones are recommmended for prepping?


36 posted on 12/21/2012 6:46:36 AM PST by MomwithHope (Buy and read Ameritopia by Mark Levin!)
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To: dagogo redux

Just go sit in your rocker, gramps, and keep imagining you are the only badass to have ever lived. Your cowardly kind are a well known quantity. You question everyone else but it is your kind that are as much a threat as those that assault us as you try to demotivate others.


37 posted on 12/21/2012 7:44:00 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Rio; Kartographer; All

A few points, in addition to the online access to meds others have listed above:

I am of the opinion that surviving SHTF is unlikely in isolation. Neighborhoods should work together, and most neighborhoods have at least a few people with a bit of medical training of some sort. Coordinating efforts and resources ahead of time seems prudent to me.

The general person would do best to get a Merck Manual or some such book and study up on such things. Ball park diagnoses of common conditions in an emergency situation is the best we can do, and you can learn a lot with reasonable effort on your own - I did so out at sea on a small ship - an “independent duty station” where I acted without availability of a doctor much of the time. When I went on to medical school years later I was amazed how well I had been able to handle many illnesses with so little training. I’d save such heroics for true emergencies during SHTF, of course, but that’s what we’re talking about here.

There are tons of fancy antibiotics out there, but most have been developed to treat highly/increasingly resistant infections in debilitated patients in hospital settings. When SHTF, things will get rather primitive rather quickly, and the bacteria that will kill you will most likely be the garden varieties that have always been out there, and which are likely reverted back to less resistant strains. Common antibiotics should work fine.

When SHTF, you can forget about treating opportunistic infections in debilitated people with compromised immune systems: Triage - a hard lesson that must be learned and learned well - will be the name of the game. Such people have so little chance of your saving them that resources will need to be saved for those with more reasonable chances of living. “Death panels”? - you bet. And you may be the panel some day. I think harsh, brutal realities are headed our way if this all falls apart. Read up on how it was done in the old days, the attitudes and the specifics.

Biological warfare plagues, if bacterial, will usually respond to Doxycycline.

Forget about IV or IM antibiotics unless you’ve got some way to preserve them and administer them.

I’d get the following meds if I knew as much as or somewhat less than I did back when I was a corpsman. Some are cheap, some not.

Lots of triple antibiotic ointment for small wounds - OTC.

Several large bottles of silver sulfadiazine ointment for long term treatment of serious burns.

The rest are in order of probable usefulness, and somewhat in descending order of cost most likely.
Keflex.
Erythromycin
Bactrim.
Amoxicillin/ Augmentin.
Ampicillin
Doxycycline
Cipro
Metronidazole
Clindamycin

You might want at least a little bit of Azithromycin and Tamiflu around, but bulk is harder to get and they are rather pricey last I checked.

Some non-steroidal antibiotic eye ointments are also worth stockpiling.

Regarding “expiration dates” on meds - it’s a long story why, but the bottom line is that they won’t become “dangerous” by degrading into some sort of poison over time, and most will still be effective long, long after they “expire”.

Last point: Prevention of wounds, proper wound care, and prevention of illnesses through common sense measures is the real key. You simply don’t want to be using antibiotics in the first place if you can help it at all, especially if you don’t have the diagnostic ability to accurately diagnose the infections you’re treating. Common sense stuff.

Good luck.


38 posted on 12/21/2012 7:57:14 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: CodeToad

“Just go sit in your rocker, gramps, and keep imagining you are the only badass to have ever lived. Your cowardly kind are a well known quantity. You question everyone else but it is your kind that are as much a threat as those that assault us as you try to demotivate others.”

LOL! What a piece of work. Good luck with all that.


39 posted on 12/21/2012 8:03:03 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Rio; All

How to Stockpile Antibiotics for Long Term Survival

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2947506/posts

Antibiotics And Their Use in Collapse Medicine(tm), Part 1

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2837144/posts


40 posted on 12/21/2012 8:51:00 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: ColdOne

ping


41 posted on 12/21/2012 12:04:30 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: MomwithHope

Patriot Nurse has some suggestions along those lines. She’s got some great YouTube videos on it.

Here’s what we got, in no particular order:

Erythromycin
Ampicillin
Cirpofloxin
Cephalaxin
Penicillin

Those are the “big 5”. Buy them cheap and stack them deep.


42 posted on 12/21/2012 3:04:12 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: dagogo redux

Too bad you think the Second Amendment is a joke, incapable of being excercised, and the founding fathers were some kind of lunitics. You should leave FR now that you know you will only run to the end of your chain and bark. You obviously do not beleive in a free republic, you only believe in mouthing off.


43 posted on 12/21/2012 3:29:33 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Lurker

THANKS!


44 posted on 12/21/2012 3:40:26 PM PST by MomwithHope (Buy and read Ameritopia by Mark Levin!)
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To: CodeToad

While you MAY have a point in there somewhere, IMHO your tone toward another FReeper (who is only trying to share knowledge and a stratagem for his own particular situation) I do not find persuasive to your cause.

I think most of here on this forum appreciate the 2nd amendment. Some people may not be physically equipped to do the rough and tumble young people stuff you are describing. I do wish you well.


45 posted on 12/21/2012 5:01:23 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: CodeToad

“There he goes. One of God’s own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”


46 posted on 12/21/2012 6:32:26 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: dagogo redux

*applause*


47 posted on 12/22/2012 7:14:25 AM PST by kimmie7 (Can you hear the cries of “MORE CAKE” echoing off the hills?)
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To: dagogo redux

Courtesy ping to my post 45


48 posted on 12/22/2012 8:19:51 AM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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