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3 days of Rioting and Looting across Argentina
http://ferfal.blogspot.com/ ^ | 12/21/12 | Ferfal

Posted on 12/21/2012 8:33:35 PM PST by Kartographer

Looting leaves 2 dead in Argentina-link to article Its not as if some looting surprises anyone in Argentina anymore. Its pretty much a fact of life for Argentines. But it has been three days now of widespread looting across the country, from Buenos Aires and its suburbs, to smaller provinces as far as Bariloche where incidents first started.

As always supermarkets, gas stations and smaller stores are favorite targets by looters and there’s also been reports of assaults and robberies as well. Two people have been killed in Rosario during the lootings and the government is deploying military personal across the country so as to protect supermarkets and avoid the “contagion” effect. This could be described as the perception that the authorities have lost control of the streets and everyone feels it’s a “free for all” time when looting can go unpunished. Unfortunately that observation isn’t far from the truth.

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Look what is happening right before your eyes and take heed. There’s a Great Storm coming you can feel it.

Listen to what the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it. NIV Proverbs 22:3

One of the things that will hurt is the fact that many will not except that a breakdown is occurring even as they watch it happening before their eyes. Why don’t they realize it?It’s caused by a condition called ‘Normalcy Bias’ a mental state people enter when facing a disaster.

It causes people to underestimate both the possibility of a disaster occurring and its possible effects. This often results in situations where people fail to adequately prepare for a disaster, and on a larger scale, the failure of governments to include the populace in its disaster preparations. The assumption that is made in the case of the normalcy bias is that since a disaster never has occurred then it never will occur. It also results in the inability of people to cope with a disaster once it occurs. People with a normalcy bias have difficulties reacting to something they have not experienced before. People also tend to interpret warnings in the most optimistic way possible, seizing on any ambiguities to infer a less serious situation.

A good article on ‘Normalcy Bias’ is on our own ChocChipCookies Blog The Survival Mom:

http://thesurvivalmom.com/2010/12/29/normalcy-bias/

You either prepare and stand on your own beholden to no one or you become dependent on others to provide your basic needs and become their ‘serf’. Me I don’t want to be beholden to anyone for providing what is needed for me and mine. I certainly don’t want to have to kiss some ‘gubberment’ third class bureaucratic to try and coax some help from them, I don’t want some ‘jack booted’ thug herding me in line and telling me where to stand, sit, eat or sleep. And last but not least I don’t want to be shut up in with a bunch of ‘zombies’ and have to worry about not only trying to get basic necessities but having to fight to keep what I manage to get.

Its your choice you can prep or you can stand around on a bridge waiting for FEMA to bring you a bottle of water, a MRE, a warm blanket and a kiss for your boo-boo and maybe you can even get your picture as you stand there on the national news.

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As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Again I like to recomend FReeper’s ChocoChipCookie Blog The Survival Mom (Please Blog Police let this one slide!) Where you can get lots of useful information like:

http://thesurvivalmom.com/2011/11/20/8-morale-boosters-for-any-worst-case-scenario/

http://thesurvivalmom.com/2010/02/02/survival-priorities-the-rule-of-three/

And More

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger. Underestimation can be fatal.”

1 posted on 12/21/2012 8:33:45 PM PST by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 12/21/2012 8:37:27 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Coming to a neighborhood near you, given four more years of Chicago Jesus. Merry Christmas.


3 posted on 12/21/2012 8:37:27 PM PST by john drake
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To: Kartographer

I’m hungry, I think I need to go get some more food..............


4 posted on 12/21/2012 8:37:41 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

I’m hungry, I think I need to go get me a flat screen TV.


5 posted on 12/21/2012 8:40:13 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Kartographer

Maybe the sheeple are starting to figure out that this equality/socialism crap really means long-term poverty and they are looting the luxuries they may never see again.


6 posted on 12/21/2012 8:42:42 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Kartographer; docbnj
Argentina Deploys Troops to Contain Looting
7 posted on 12/21/2012 8:42:42 PM PST by blam
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To: Revolting cat!

LOL, that’s apparently the way it works in Argentina.


8 posted on 12/21/2012 8:43:17 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Mears

bfl


9 posted on 12/21/2012 8:47:43 PM PST by Mears
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To: Revolting cat!

LoL!


10 posted on 12/21/2012 8:51:06 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Kartographer

It is this violent culture= violent games/movies + no-fault, anything goes lifestyle being taught as normal by government schools and the Hollywierd/MSM plus the fact that our past couple of generations have been dumbed and numbed down ON PURPOSE.

All of it together = cultural rot and depravity on a scale that hasn’t been seen since Sodom and Gomorrah. Sure, once upon a time perverted Roman rulers or in some times the ELITE lived horribly deplorable lifestyles... today it is almost EVERYONE or at least you would think so from the “pop-culture” and this simply encourages it.

The end of this road is uglier than anything this planet has ever seen. Your true rights can be thrown out the window in exchange for “rights of the moment” that will be thrown out when convenient. The result is not going to be nearly as organized and controlled as Huxley dreamed up. AT least not for a long time as the largest part of the population falls into barbarism that eats itself up.

What we are seeing from these crazies today will become more and more common in the near future, these are the logical products of our sick culture


11 posted on 12/21/2012 8:52:32 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Kartographer

It is this violent culture= violent games/movies + no-fault, anything goes lifestyle being taught as normal by government schools and the Hollywierd/MSM plus the fact that our past couple of generations have been dumbed and numbed down ON PURPOSE.

All of it together = cultural rot and depravity on a scale that hasn’t been seen since Sodom and Gomorrah. Sure, once upon a time perverted Roman rulers or in some times the ELITE lived horribly deplorable lifestyles... today it is almost EVERYONE or at least you would think so from the “pop-culture” and this simply encourages it.

The end of this road is uglier than anything this planet has ever seen. Your true rights can be thrown out the window in exchange for “rights of the moment” that will be thrown out when convenient. The result is not going to be nearly as organized and controlled as Huxley dreamed up. AT least not for a long time as the largest part of the population falls into barbarism that eats itself up.

What we are seeing from these crazies today will become more and more common in the near future, these are the logical products of our sick culture


12 posted on 12/21/2012 8:52:32 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Kartographer

All we can do is make sure we have our own personal world ready for such so we don’t need the outside world for a decent standard of living for a period of time.

God gave us a brain, we have to use it.


13 posted on 12/21/2012 8:54:13 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Kartographer; Travis McGee

Ferfal’s book should is a must read, IMO.


14 posted on 12/21/2012 9:00:10 PM PST by TADSLOS (I took extra credit at the School of Hard Knocks)
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To: Marcella; Kartographer; JRandomFreeper

Prepare long term, be able to replensish and/or repair your supplies, and stay out of the cities is the only way to have a shot at survival. JMHO.

When the 60’s riots erupted, most of the rural areas in America did not participate. I am not sure that will hold true this time around.


15 posted on 12/21/2012 9:10:02 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
There won't be riots here while I'm alive. One riot, one Texan, and all of that.... After I'm dead? Color me unconcerned.

I will play hard and fast right up to then, though. They might want to bring a lunch. This could take some time.

/johnny

16 posted on 12/21/2012 9:15:47 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

There won’t be riots here while I’m alive.
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Define here. Do you mean your house, your town, or what?

I like your attitude. Reminds me of a certain Sheriff when I was just a kid. We had one bridge coming into our town. One night the Hells Angels decided to come through, and had already made some threats about rioting and what not.

Sheriff Lamb (he was more of a wolf) and his crew blocked off the bridge, and met them with shotguns and police dogs. He was real polite. Just told them that it would be in their best interest to turn around and go somewhere else.

They did. LOL.


17 posted on 12/21/2012 9:29:30 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Kartographer

can anyone refer me to a good news site for international news?.....unbiased and straight forward?.....we are in such a news block out considering the internet, iphones,ipads,radio , etc.....the news we do hear is often slanted,misleading or nonexistant....they let us hear/read only what they want us too....


18 posted on 12/21/2012 9:35:13 PM PST by cherry
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To: GeronL

I have lived down there. After decades of socialism a majority of the population thinks the solution - is more socialism. They never learn. They continue to believe. More socialism breeds more misery but the culprit is always “greedy capitalism”.

We have crossed that tipping point here and barring a bloody civil war there is no going back.


19 posted on 12/21/2012 9:36:48 PM PST by QuisCustodiet1776
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To: greeneyes
These grounds, the estate, where I was born. Where I grow stuff I eat. Where I live.

I did call the cops on a guy the other night, and said I 'ran him off'. The cop looked at me when he got here (I'm not a large guy) and asked "How did you run him off?"

I told the cop that I 'splained him. That was enough said.

/johnny

20 posted on 12/21/2012 9:37:50 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer; All
Ferfal can be found on YouTube and also The Modern Survivalist as an adjunct to his YouTube channel.

He is a very interesting man. I enjoy his other reviews.
21 posted on 12/21/2012 9:38:53 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: cherry
can anyone refer me to a good news site for international news?.....unbiased and straight forward?.

There are several. What languages do you read?

/johnny

22 posted on 12/21/2012 9:39:13 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

LOL. That splainin’ works every time.


23 posted on 12/21/2012 9:53:27 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Kartographer

What is your on your own, live in an apartment and is living paycheck to paycheck? Are there any ideals how to prepare? How can I stock up when again I’m living paycheck to paycheck?


24 posted on 12/21/2012 9:54:11 PM PST by Patriot Babe
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To: JRandomFreeper

By the way, did I ever tell you that I scared off a would be burgler? All I did was scream at him. “Who are you and what the h*ll do you think you’re doing in MY house”?

It was too dark to see his face, but he turned around and jumped out of the door and ran off down the hill. Cops wouldn’t even come out to talk to us or anything.

Just said well be careful, and feel free to call again.

Call again for what, I wondered? Sympathy? Yeh, right. Forget it, we’d be dead before they got here anyway.


25 posted on 12/21/2012 9:58:53 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
Pretty much. I'm too old and hurt to go toe to toe without getting the drop on them. Age and wisdom and the scars should count for something.

/johnny

26 posted on 12/21/2012 10:01:23 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Patriot Babe; Marcella
What is your on your own, live in an apartment and is living paycheck to paycheck? Are there any ideals how to prepare? How can I stock up when again I’m living paycheck to paycheck?

That's a serious question, and deserves a serious answer. Granted, I may be a little flippant sometimes...

But actually, single, celibate, and sane is a great place to start off.

I'll suggest that you scour every mailer and newspaper you get/find to look for sales.

Something you like will be on sale. Generally for about 14% off.

Buy it. Lots of it. All you can afford.

Sucks to have to live on it until next paycheck, but payday, you can buy the next thing on sale and the first thing is mostly still stored and not eaten.

This doubles as a weight loss program, depending on your tastes and physiology, and the sales.

After a couple of years, you find that you are having to moves stacks of stuff that you bought on sale. And your grocery bill is about 20% less.

Never eat at a restaurant, they are scams, I know. I'm qualified to run one.

/johnny

27 posted on 12/21/2012 10:09:59 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Patriot Babe
BTW, the plan I outlined has served me well since the early 80s. From back when I was an E-2 and truly poor.

/johnny

28 posted on 12/21/2012 10:40:57 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Patriot Babe

A little at a time. Start with stuff you eat and buy a little more each week when you find a sale. $5 a week can add up over time.

Do what you can. But to do nothing is certain failure.


29 posted on 12/21/2012 10:56:02 PM PST by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: Patriot Babe

Aside from the obvious coupons and sales, it is hard to tell without asking questions. Also, magazines always advise to buy in bulk to save money.

This just happens to fit right in with preparing for the long term. The link below claims that you can live on $225.00 - less than $500.00 per year per person sticking to the basics and buying in bulk, and a year’s worth of vitamins.

The book “Eating off the Grid” is a similar nutritionally sound program that has been tested on people and was written by a nutritionist. Very cheap eats, and lots of tasty recipes.

http://www.provident-living-today.com/Bulk-Food-Storage.html

So this month maybe you just buy one of those items in bulk. Say 25 lbs of sugar for $15.00. Thats almost 6 months worth sugar. That is also about $2.40 per 4lb bag (that’s what our store uses).

So then you should be looking for sales that are around $1.99 per bag. Frequently a loss leader during the holidays. Buy 3 bags for 3 month’s worth. Buy more if you can afford it.

Now go over your expenses with a fine tooth comb. Ask yourself, if I had no food to eat, would I buy this item, or would I choose to eat? Maybe you eliminate some cable/satellite choices any expenses you can so that you get a little more money to put toward your plan.

Maybe you cancel magazines, and or fast food etc. Maybe you go vegan for a few months. That is guaranteed to to reduce your food bill. Beans and Rice are a lot cheaper than meat. Add some cornbread, or wheat bread instead of rice for variety.

How about the deductibles on your car Insurance, maybe you can raise them and save a few bucks?

Last but not least, if you have a south or west facing window or a patio where you can put some pots, grow some food. A 68 cent packet of seeds can give you a lot of lettuce, spinach, or bell peppers for example, you don’t have to worry about things like pesticides or E-coli either.

Hope this helps. Good luck.


30 posted on 12/21/2012 11:33:01 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: QuisCustodiet1776

looks like it


31 posted on 12/21/2012 11:33:08 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Patriot Babe

Also, I forgot to mention, when I find a sale or open one of the foods, I like to buy one to eat and 1-3 for the pantry; more if I can.

If I open a jar of peanut butter for example, it goes on the list. I watch the sales, and try to replace it and buy some extra by the time the jar is empty.

It is also one of the basic 6 food groups(oils). It is not a required oil, but it does provide some variety and a little protein, and we all love it.

I only buy foods that we love in each of the food groups:
Grains, Dairy, Sugar or other sweetners, salt, fats & oils, dried legumes. That’s the basic 6 foods. You’ll need a few miscellaneous like baking powder and soda, yeast, boullion etc. But the “survival” storage basics are few and pretty cheap.

Build that first, a week, or month at a time if necessary, then add lots more of your favorites for variety. Stay focused on your goal which I think is to get the basics as quickly as possible.


32 posted on 12/21/2012 11:56:59 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Thank you so very much for that information I am going to start preparing the best I can in this small 2 bed apartment


33 posted on 12/22/2012 12:15:31 AM PST by Patriot Babe
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To: greeneyes

This sounds like the “hearty pioneer stock” that Louis L’Amour often spoke about.


34 posted on 12/22/2012 12:52:58 AM PST by JohnnyP
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To: Patriot Babe

25- 50 pound sacks of rice and almost every other staple can be had at Asian stores, as well as cheap canned meat & fish, and lots of dense, 2-3 pound packages of noodles (not the ramen stuff, which is more costly, less tasty, and bulkier to store.

25-50 pound sacks of beans and barley and salt and sugar and such can be bought online or at CostCo-type stores.

Walmart and Home Depot-type stores will have those nesting/stackable translucent plastic containers with snap-tight lids, and most of the 25 pound sacks of stuff will fit in there unopened and stay vermin-and-pest-free and good to eat for years.

Get a rice cooker and a crock pot on Ebay or at a Goodwill or Salvation Army store cheap.

Hope that helps.


35 posted on 12/22/2012 1:25:59 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: JohnnyP

I expect so. Still, once you get the basics laid in, you are all set to fill in with all manner of other stuff to give variety.

Even if all you do is add some herbs, spices, and a few cheap veggies like taters, maters, and onions, it can all be very satisfying, yummy, and not at all boring.

Grow a few of the more expensive veggies and you can be the gourmet pioneer.LOL.


36 posted on 12/22/2012 1:48:16 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: dagogo redux

Better make that a solar powered crock pot. :)

Cast iron pot over some coals would be good.


37 posted on 12/22/2012 1:55:05 AM PST by JohnnyP
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To: GeronL

Very well said. It is getting to the point where it is actually hard to avoid seeing what you have described.

I believe many can now see the dark clouds approaching. Is this the beginning of the birth pangs?


38 posted on 12/22/2012 3:48:27 AM PST by Obadiah (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: dagogo redux

While I agree with most of your helpful advice, I find that mice have no problem getting through those plastic tubs.
I only store dry food in metal containers for that reason.
I buy 7, 20, and 30 gal. garbage cans w/tight fitting lids for that purpose.


39 posted on 12/22/2012 3:52:08 AM PST by Fireone (Impeach and imprison, NOW! Treason and murder are still crimes.)
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To: Patriot Babe; Marcella

Prepping on a Budget

http://offgridsurvival.com/preppingonabudget/

Prepping On A Budget

http://www.shtfblog.com/prepping-on-a-budget/

Prepping on a budget, part 1 – food

http://www.off-grid.net/2012/10/08/prepping-on-a-budget-part-1-food/

additionally check out the Apartment Preppers blpg

http://apartmentprepper.com/

Lastly prep knowledge! Seriously if I was a woman living in a city today and was worried about SHTF and I had no family or no way or place to bug out to I study something in the medical field EMT, nurse something. Some of that training you can get free or low cost, but medical treatment will be worth far more than gold during SHTF! Ask a veteran there are plenty on here no one screws with the medic ‘Doc’ because no one knows when they are going to need him. Selco a survivor of the Bosnian war one thing that helped him was his being able to trade his skills as a EMT to help get him and his family through.

You might chat/FReepmail my fellow Preparedness Adviser Marcella she has advance EMT training and is very knowledgeable on the subject.

Good Luck and God watch over you.


40 posted on 12/22/2012 6:18:10 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Revolting cat!
I’m hungry, I think I need to go get me a flat screen TV.

When the flat screen banditos are creating the diversion I'll be at the supermarket buying canned goods with cash or junk silver if credit cards and checks don't work.

41 posted on 12/22/2012 6:19:35 AM PST by immadashell
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To: Kartographer; flaglady47; mickie; seenenuf; seekthetruth; hoosiermama; Chigirl 26; oswegodeee
AR-GEN-TEENA !

You''ll find your life will begin
The very moment you're in Argentina
If you're a looter senor
Then you will surely adore Argentina

I'll bet an old castanet that you will never forget Argentina
Where there are TVs and laptops to tickle your spine
Groceries and 1Phones and bottles of wine
All for the taking down Argentine way

Leni

42 posted on 12/22/2012 6:39:03 AM PST by MinuteGal (I'm Going to Update the Name That No One Dares to Utter and I'll Use It From Now On......OBAMUNISM !)
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To: Patriot Babe
What is your on your own, live in an apartment and is living paycheck to paycheck? Are there any ideals how to prepare? How can I stock up when again I’m living paycheck to paycheck?



You can save a lot of money off your grocery bill by watching sites like these for sales and using coupons and putting aside a couple of items each week
Southern Savers
http://www.southernsavers.com/


I Heart Publix
http://iheartpublix.com/


I heart Kroger
http://www.iheartkroger.com/


I've been doing this for so long that I rarely ever come close to spending what I budget for groceries each month. I have on hand at all times almost 6 months to a years worth of stuff my family uses on a regular basis and I give tons of stuff away to family members and the local church food bank.

The freezer at my mother in laws house if full of Jimmy Dean breakfast bowls I got free at Walmart (rollback for 2.00 and there was a 2.00 coupon for them ) ,Frozen Fish that were free (buy one get one sale at Publix and coupons made them free , Smithfield Pork chops bought for pennies a pack at Sweetbay supermarket (there was a 2.00 off any Smithfield fresh pork coupon and I picked up small packages that started at 2.02 to about 2.50 a pack and the store took Winn Dixie 5.00 off when you spend 30.00 as competitor so most of the meat ended up just costing a couple of pennies ) , margarine sale 1.50 Publix and free after Publix and manufactures coupons , frozen vegtables free after sale and coupons - In laws freezer is full of this stuff because there was no room in mine lol

This week at Publix alone I got
20 cans of Campbells Cream of Chicken soup free after buy one get one sale and both Publix and manufactures coupons
40 packages of Knorr Pasta sides at Publix for .60 after buy one get one free sale ,Publix and manufactures coupons. That's not .60 each ,that is .60 for 40 packages .


4 jars of Kraft Mayo for less than a dollar total - Buy one get one sale and 2.00 off coupons that were printable on the internet (two of these will go to the food bank as I can't use before expiration date). Pasta sauce for.50 a jar after sale and coupon

There is hardly a week that goes by that I don't come home with something I get for free or pennies . I take tons of stuff I can't /won't use to the churches food pantry

Oh I garden to too and have chickens (won't help you much in an apartment ) .

I hardly ever buy papers for the coupons too as I get the leftovers for free .Some weeks I only get a couple of papers and then there are weeks I get 20-30 papers .

We do not have double coupons in my area , if we did my food bank would have to worry about where to store things lol.

Seriously even if you don't want to be bothered to use coupons hardcore you can still save a lot by going to these sites or similar sites for your area and just planning your purchases by what is on sale for the week and printing out the online coupons they suggest for the order .


43 posted on 12/22/2012 7:14:18 AM PST by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: JohnnyP

I thought she was living in an apartment. If not, then yes, I agree.


44 posted on 12/22/2012 7:27:48 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Fireone

I’ve not had that problem with the mice or rats here over the past 3-4 years of prepping, but it’s good to know about, and your point is well taken. Thanks.


45 posted on 12/22/2012 7:33:02 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Patriot Babe

You have a small space. Put your storage food under the beds, lots of room there.


46 posted on 12/22/2012 7:58:12 AM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: GeronL
they are looting the luxuries they may never see again

With hussein biting at the bit to ban guns, isn't it amazing that those evil gun grabbing conservative preppers are patiently waiting in long lines at the gun shops instead of rioting and having shootouts in aisle three. You know the msm is crying in their sushi they can't print those headlines.

47 posted on 12/22/2012 8:41:22 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: Patriot Babe; Kartographer

Babe, Freepmail me if you want to talk about medical training. I agree with Kart that having that training makes you a valuable asset if TSHTF.

Having that knowledge can save yourself and others: I’ve told about this situation before: When Hurricane Ike came through, the regional hospital here lost power with the rest of us and THEIR GENERATOR DID NOT COME ON. Critical patients had to be taken to San Antonio, a five hour trip. If something happened to you during the 5 days without power, you were not going to get medical care.

Plus, cell phones and walk around house phones did not work. You couldn’t call 911 if you or someone in your family needed care. Ambulances were not going anywhere since no one could call 911. The only exception to that was if a person had an old type phone that plugged directly into the wall. In that case you could phone someone in the area that also had that type phone or you could call outside the hurricane area.

The bottom line, is, when power goes out, you can’t depend on ANYTHING working - not even your hospital.


48 posted on 12/22/2012 8:46:03 AM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Patriot Babe

Take a look at your budget as well. Do you have a cell phone with a data plan? Going to a feature (dumb) phone will save you about $30 per month. Do you have cable TV with all the bells and whistles? Going to basic cable can save you some $$$ as well.

Please don’t get me wrong, I am not trying to preach. Just ask yourself a question with regards to your finances. What is more important to me?

If you choose to spend on item “A” rather than on preps, then item “A” is more important to you than survival.

As an aside, you can store quite a bit of your preps under your bed(s).


49 posted on 12/22/2012 9:16:06 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Obadiah
I believe many can now see the dark clouds approaching.

A few, but still not many. Just yesterday, on a board I sometimes visit just to remind myself how the other side thinks, I got ticked at their "oh, I'll rather just die than stock my pantry" and their "oh, anyone who owns a gun is scary" and "I'll just move in with a crazy prepper if anything happens." They can't recognize an economic collapse could be their own personal job lose and they'd be without during a snow storm. None of them listened. They never do. They laugh at zombies when they are the zombies. The best lesson I've learned from Katrina and Sandy is that the zombies won't have the sense to get out of the cities so they won't be an immediate concern.

50 posted on 12/22/2012 9:18:05 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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