Anti 'gun confiscation' laws.

12/22/12 | grumpygresh

[grumpygresh]

Statements by Obama and NY governor Cuomo and others have made gun owners very worried. If we get an assault weapons ban via congressional action or presidential order, who will stop the momentum from turning to outright confiscation especially in Leftist jurisdictions. I don't know if any states currently have state laws that address this specific issue, but we need to make sure that our gun and property rights are secure from the gun grabbers at all levels.

[onona]

I’m not worried.

[Helotes]

Isn’t it true that at the time of the adoption of the Bill of Rights, the Second Amendment was considered a necessary deterent to government tyrany as an unarmed people would be vulnerable to opression?

In other words, it’s not just about being able to hunt and defend your person.

[Oldpuppymax]

The left are too smart to begin gun confiscation, at least over the near future. Gun grabbers must wait for more brutal killings, all of which are the result of “gun free zone” legislation, deliberately crafted to facilitate mass murder. With each future mass killing, another assault will take place on the 2nd Amendment until confiscation becomes the only resort left for the protection of Americans. (At least that will be the claim of the left)
The only way to defeat confiscation will be for actual Americans to take a stand and literally fire on anyone coming for their guns.

[B.O. Plenty]

This is the kind of stuff which changes people from citizens who "disagree" into citizens who "actively disagree".

It would probably be wise for people like Obama and Cuomo to very seriously consider what they propose....actions have consequences and unintended outcomes.

[Wildbill22]

And because the 2nd A was to deter Tyranny it would require the ability of the people to have small arms of the capability to take on the weapons of the army of the tyrant which means they would have to be of at least equal capability. So this definately does not mean just hunting and self defense, hunting bears and burglars.
That means that the “assault weapon” should be specifically the type of firearm the second A was referring to and protecting.

[txnativegop]

Let’s hope that we can stop them before it comes to that.

[apillar]

The main problem with “gun confiscation” is that the premise assumes that the government knows where every so called “assault weapon” is and can send somebody to your door to pick them up, unless Obama has Madame Cleo and the Psychic Friends network on staff, they don't and can't. So any attempt would become a bigger joke than the Canadian attempt to register long-guns and make the feds look inept and powerless (which they DON'T want because me might get the idea to ignore other laws)....

[ColdSteelTalon]

Just a friendly reminder. AR-15’s are not assault rifles. They are semi-auto rifles that look like military rifles.

Regards.

[grumpygresh]

There will be more mass killings at these stupid gun free zones and that’s just what the gun grabbers want. We need to propose anti confiscation legislation as a way to call out the radical Left. What might sound like an over-reach today, gun confiscation, will become acceptable later.
When the Lefties back down and say “oh, we really won’t take your guns, trust us”, make them take the vote.

[Wildbill22]

Congress is in Holliday recess, and will return to a much less emotional environment.
Gun grabbers should be portrayed as dancing in the blood of a tragedy to advance their ineffective and individual rights destroying agenda. Gun stores shelves are being emptied, and the emotion is ebbing and polls are showing people don’t necessarily want more gun control.

Yea, we have our work cut out for us, but this battle is far from over.

[tacticalogic]

Whoever can control the terminology can control the debate.

The left wants use to agree to ban "assault weapons", then they'll decide what an "assault weapon" is.

[txnativegop]

I have been writing letters to the editor of my local paper; emails to Congress; talking with my friends.

It is about all that I can do, I just hope my fellow gun owners are doing the same.

Merry Christmas!

[Wildbill22]

Good point. We should not let the left define the terms. Also, we have to give our gun friendly politicians a testosterone booster. House Speaker Bohner makes me nervous. He needs to find his balls in dealing with Obama.

Start writing letters and join GOA or the NRA.

[Drew68]

The main problem with “gun confiscation” is that the premise assumes that the government knows where every so called “assault weapon” is and can send somebody to your door to pick them up, unless Obama has Madame Cleo and the Psychic Friends network on staff, they don't and can't.

If the government embarked on a confiscation program (and I don't think this is politically tenable) they wouldn't be sending people to your door to pick them up. They'd make the penalties of non-compliance so severe that most owners would voluntarily turn them in themselves.

The government has incredible powers to destroy your life without ever knocking on your door. They could easily make penalties for illegally possessing an assault rifle similar to possessing child porn. Get caught with one and you go to prison. For a long time. You lose your job, your savings account, retirement accounts, your home and everything in it. Oh yeah, they'll take your kids too. Your ability to live a normal, productive life would be pretty much over.

And the neighbor or family member (even your school-aged child) who turned you in? They'll get a nice check.

[PLMerite]

“I’m not worried.”

Me neither, but for reasons the ‘grabbers probably wouldn’t like.

[SampleMan]

Confiscation will not be door to door knocking. It will be criminalization of possession, mixed with midnight raids and selective prosecution. They will be OK, at first, with people hiding their weapons. They don’t want to provoke people to organize.

That lefty niece or brother-in-law wil be putting you on the pogrom list.

People who talk about hiding their weapons have already lost.

[Norm Lenhart]

I’d be willing to bet that most of the people who just got religon and created record gun sales, whether they are obama loons or not, will not be giving their guns back. When this gets going, watch for it to be a little here and there to test the waters.

Then they will continue or back off confiscations depending on the result.

Or they go full tilt and intentionally start CW2 to declare marLaw.

I put nothing pat them. And anyone who doesn’t think they would try is a fool.

[jazzlite]

Back in 1964, we had just come out of the Berlin Crisis and the Cuban Missile Crisis..President Kennedy had been assassinated and the US seemed like a dangerous place as far as foreign threats..We did not consider that only 50 years down the road we would be feeling that some of the major threats to our freedoms would come directly from our lawmakers in Washington, DC., though we should have been thinking about that for that has been the way of mankind since the beginning of recorded history. Very few of those in authority care more about their “subjects” than they care about themselves and the lust for power. Anyway, I was a young Mom back then and watched the Ruth Lyon's TV talk show out of Cincinnati every day. She was a great musician and had great musicians on her show. She wrote unique and touching Christmas music which they played every year during the time she raised money for toys which went to sick children in hospitals. She raised millions for sick kids over her career. Nearly all of those folks are gone now, but her music lives on in homes like mine each Christmas..This particular tune is one of my favorites for it expresses the love we have for our children at Christmas time. Considering all that has gone on the past two weeks and all those trying to make political hay on the backs of children, this tune could have been written yesterday. Marian Spellman is the artist..She was a well-known soprano and passed away in 2007..Take a listen..Get your tissue..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P3ZrVCbJeM

[satan]

Gun grabbers are dancing in the blood of a tragedy to advance their ineffective and individual rights destroying agenda.