Posted on 12/22/2012 7:47:13 AM PST by grumpygresh
Statements by Obama and NY governor Cuomo and others have made gun owners very worried. If we get an assault weapons ban via congressional action or presidential order, who will stop the momentum from turning to outright confiscation especially in Leftist jurisdictions. I don't know if any states currently have state laws that address this specific issue, but we need to make sure that our gun and property rights are secure from the gun grabbers at all levels.
“Assault weapons... are a new topic. The weapons’ menacing looks, coupled with the public’s confusion over fully-automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons — anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun — can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons.”
-Josh Sugarmann, “Assault Weapons: Analysis, New Research and Legislation”, March 1989
Go back and read the Declaration of Independence.....THEN read the Bill of Rights.
Confiscation laws just another step to dismatling the constitution,one day at a time,any excuse is exceptable.
Such a law is unnecessary and dangerous. The 2A does it all and is a permanent restraint. A law would weaken the import of the 2A and laws can be rescinded at the next Congress.
"Gun grabbers must wait for more brutal killings, all of which are the result of “gun free zone” legislation, deliberately crafted to facilitate mass murder."
If you've no objections I would like to repeat in the future....
Correct.
Quite a few of those here on Freerepublic.
Interesting point; however, if there are huge numbers of owners who do not turn them in, then is the government prepared to put millions upon millions of Americans in prison ontop of the existing prison population? Perhaps they do, although, we’ll be full tilt Stalinist Russia when it happens. My guess is those who have land and resources will bury them somewhere in the woods of the fruited plains all across America. I don’t think the governments resources are great enough to unearth all the units.
you really believe the federal background checks are erased after the prescribed time?
the whole confiscation issue is a dead one.
You see, aren’t gun owners frequently outdoorsmen? Do we not fish, often out alone and for extended periods of time. While, just last week I was in my canoe, fishing and cleaning my pistol collection - when out of no where, a wave capsized my canoe - sending all my pistols to the bottom of the river. Sadly, I paddled ashore, lucky to have saved both my fishing pole and my tackle box.
And that’s what happened to my handguns, sir; and as luck would have it, the same thing happened to my rifle and shotgun collection too. Now, unless you have evidence to the opposite - the gun collectors can just mosey along. The courts are required to prove guilt, I have no need to prove my innocence.
They are called AR 15 not 16 because they are “almost” assault rifles.
I just placed all my assets in a trust. I no longer own anything and we have no kids. I'm retired so they can't take my job. If they want to lock me up they'll have to feed me and handle any health problems. They only have traction if they go all "third world" on me which is not impossible but I'd doubt they would get too rough with a near septuagenarian.
Regards,
GtG
Tell that to the people who owned Street Sweeper shotguns. The Feds reclassified them as Destructive Devices that required NFA registration. Those that could not get LEO signoff had to surrender them or face a ten year prison term for possesing an unregistered DD. Also once the amnesty registration period was over the ATF began traceing the unaccounted ones from the manufacturer's records to the first purchaser by using the records that are already required and in place for the next gun grab.
We cannot allow the left to define the terms by which the debate will be held...
“Just a friendly reminder. AR-15’s are not assault rifles. They are semi-auto rifles that look like military rifles.”
Agree. “Assault rifles” is a Leftist term used to demonize guns and gun owners. We should refrain from using the term because it has no exact definition, and that’s what the Leftists always do. So when a Lefty says they want an assault rifle or assault weapons ban, make them define it. If they say all semi-auto weapons, that would include all semi-auto rifles, pistols and double action revolvers which has to be more than 80% of guns on the market.
I doubt that anti-gun confiscation laws have any real effect, because in the last about 20 years, major metropolitan police organizations have been told to “Go ahead and violate civil right *now*, because the litigation will take at least a year, and there will only be a small penalty paid with taxpayer money.”
Most of these violation occurred during international conferences held in these cities, with protestors, violent and non-violent outside. Importantly, many of the violations happened against people who were obviously not part of any demonstration or riot, but who were either caught unaware or were just onlookers. A man with a white shirt and tie, carrying a briefcase on a bicycle, is not your typical profile of a violent anarchist.
A good key indicator is when police put tape over their names and badge numbers.
In other situations, individuals from out of state would be brought in to violate civil rights, some of whom may not have even been LEOs, and were dressed in pseudo military uniforms while acting as paramilitaries.
To make matters worse, police in a martial law disaster area often believe that *they* are the law, and that civil rights have been suspended. They are *not* going to debate, only order and expect obedience.
I bet you don’t have a funny bone in your arm either.
As far as I am concerned, they are called modern muskets.
You can bet the next Fed AWB ban will not allow any of the listed features (particularly the evil pistol grip) on any long gun.
Not really, IF you bought it from an FFL dealer then THEY KNOW who you are, what you bought, and when you bought it. The gubmint has already admitted to mining all electronic data, you really think they don`t mine background checks?
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