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Waking Up an English Mastiff Dog
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Posted on 12/22/2012 6:45:01 PM PST by navysealdad

Get out of the bed I need to get to sleep. Lincoln the English Mastiff is a big cry baby

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1 posted on 12/22/2012 6:45:09 PM PST by navysealdad
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To: AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; afraidfortherepublic; ...
WOOOF!

Computer Hope

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2 posted on 12/22/2012 6:46:57 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack; navysealdad

That pup is serious about staying on the bed. She should just get in with him and go to sleep.


4 posted on 12/22/2012 6:56:20 PM PST by TheOldLady
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To: navysealdad

Not cute to me. The dog is out of control and needs serious training. He runs the house...not the human.


5 posted on 12/22/2012 6:57:41 PM PST by Dallas59 (America died a little bit more on 11/6/2012)
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To: Joe 6-pack

That’s a funny video of a dog that doesn’t mind very well.

It’s funnier at my house as my labradoodle, Sophie was right on it—barking and sounding like she wanted to tear the mastiff to shreds.

Sophie weighs about 14 pounds...........


6 posted on 12/22/2012 6:59:56 PM PST by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: Joe 6-pack

That is way to much dog for that girl to handle.
He knows she is not the boss . I love Mastiffs and none of mine would have dared climb on my bed or any furniture in my house more than once .


7 posted on 12/22/2012 7:00:26 PM PST by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: Joe 6-pack

She should buy herself a cot and let him have the bed.

I would guess that is the “Lincoln bedroom”.


8 posted on 12/22/2012 7:00:44 PM PST by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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To: Dallas59

Not cute at all. She reminds me of those mothers with a bad three year old I avoid when I’m in line at a checkout while shopping. When they start counting to 10 for the fourth time I want to scream.


9 posted on 12/22/2012 7:02:34 PM PST by timeflies
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To: Joe 6-pack

I kept thinking the dog was looking at the cat. Maybe he is scared of it.


10 posted on 12/22/2012 7:05:46 PM PST by ozaukeemom (USA-it was nice while it lasted)
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To: Lera
Yep. I've long raised my dogs in accordance with the principles outlined by The Monks Of New Skete.

They are adamant that the master/alpha's sleeping area (i.e. bed) is reserved exclusively for the alpha. I'll occasionally call my dog to hop up on here (especially on cold nights), but he won't come without permission, and is normally reluctant to stay for any length of time. He knows that if he ever challenged me for it, he'd catch hell.

This lady is basically training her dog to defy her.

11 posted on 12/22/2012 7:10:43 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: navysealdad

Cute dog, nice video.

Uh...yeah, the problem is the confusing training:

She’s rewarding disobediance.


12 posted on 12/22/2012 7:18:08 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Joe 6-pack

There is no way I would put my face that close to a growling dog. He needs some serious training.......or she does.

Both of my sons have English mastiffs. One is loveable and very well-trained. The other is a seriously scary dude and I won’t get near him. The dogs are brothers. It’s just a matter of training.


13 posted on 12/22/2012 7:20:42 PM PST by Rushmore Rocks
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To: Joe 6-pack

Yup.

*Once* when Odin was about a year old, I wanted him to move over so I could stretch my legs.

He growled.

So he was unceremoniously tossed off the couch and we had an intense 15 minute obedience refresher in the living room.

He was then sent to the dog sofa for a half hour time out.

Almost 2 1/2 years later, all I have to do is say Bubby, move, very quietly and does.

It’s my damn couch and his *privilege* is to be on it with me.

He’s got to assume that in all things.

I don’t care what kind of wonderful fun or delicious food or toy he’s got in his mouth, if I say give it up, he does.

He knows its “mine”, really.

That mess with the Mastiff is not going to end well for either of them.

Never get more dog than you can handle.


14 posted on 12/22/2012 7:25:37 PM PST by Salamander (If animals could speak, mankind would weep.)
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To: navysealdad

There is one well trained bitch in the video, but she isn’t wearing a collar.


15 posted on 12/22/2012 7:29:02 PM PST by wrench
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To: timeflies

After the first couple training lessons, a dog should never receive a command more than once.

Command, correct.

No nagging, no pleading, no repeating.

Dogs are smart and they learn fast that you ‘don’t really mean it”.

That woman horrifies me.

People like her are why good dogs get put down.


16 posted on 12/22/2012 7:31:10 PM PST by Salamander (If animals could speak, mankind would weep.)
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To: timeflies
Not cute at all. She reminds me of those mothers with a bad three year old I avoid when I’m in line at a checkout while shopping.

Agree, except no three yr old child will ever be able to do the kind of damage an undisciplined mastiff can do. This woman doesn't have a big cry-baby on her hands, as the title says - she's got a very large dog who thinks he's boss, and that's a serious problem.
17 posted on 12/22/2012 7:42:01 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: navysealdad

Not cute at all. This girl has no control and the dog knows it. The nipping and biting...whoa...not cute.


18 posted on 12/22/2012 7:56:14 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (Dear Santa....I can explain.)
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To: Salamander
After the first couple training lessons, a dog should never receive a command more than once.

Walk in, attach leash.

Give "OFF" command at the same time the dog is pulled off of the bed using the leash.

Reward the dog for obeying your command.

19 posted on 12/22/2012 8:10:55 PM PST by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Monitor

Lather, rinse, repeat.

[I couldn’t bear watching the whole video...maybe she didn’t say “pretty please”]

Ugh.


20 posted on 12/22/2012 8:16:51 PM PST by Salamander (If animals could speak, mankind would weep.)
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To: Monitor

Our ACD/border collie mix won’t get on a bed or sofa. I’ve tried to get him up and he won’t. Sort of like Lord Peter Whimsey says of Bunter, he believes in keeping me in my place. Only discipline issue is when he has his leash on to go out he gets excited and bites at it. I wait quietly until he settles down and he does now without me even having to tell him. We have to stop and settle down three distinct places before he’s allowed to get off the porch and we walk. Then we have a great time. He’s getting old - 15. He used to chase and catch Frisbees and other toys for literally hours but now once or twice is all he can do. Mostly he sleeps. One or two miles is all he’s up for.


21 posted on 12/22/2012 8:22:17 PM PST by Mercat (Adventures make you late for dinner. Bilbo Baggins)
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To: Monitor

So I watched it all.

Soon as she “get down” Odin jumped up and started to hop off the sofa and looked at me with such a confused look on his face.

[Ma? Was that you? Get down? Whuh?]

I cannot believe she was right in the dog’s face, looking him in the eye while he’s pulling rank on her.

“I know you’re not gonna bite me.”

Famous last words.

All dogs bite.

If my dogs acted like that...hell, if *I* acted like that, I’d die of shame, not to mention *never* slapping it on the internet so everybody could see what a spectacular idiot I was.


22 posted on 12/22/2012 8:26:13 PM PST by Salamander (If animals could speak, mankind would weep.)
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To: Conservative4Ever
Dog minus pony act.

LOL

23 posted on 12/22/2012 8:29:32 PM PST by Salamander (If animals could speak, mankind would weep.)
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To: navysealdad
It's pretty clear the dog thinks the whole ritual is just a game, though he also clearly wants to stay where he is.

He's just a big sweetie.

24 posted on 12/22/2012 8:38:03 PM PST by Prospero
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To: TheOldLady

reminds me of Boehner and Obama


25 posted on 12/22/2012 8:39:01 PM PST by rovenstinez
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To: TheOldLady

Bad idea.

The alpha of a pack sleeps where ever the alpha desires.

If you let a dog sleep on your bed, you are training it to believe itself the leader.

It doesn’t want to leave the bed because if it *loses* the struggle, it *loses* its position as alpha.


26 posted on 12/22/2012 8:48:28 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Salamander

Well said.

(And good boy, Odhinn! What a smart boy!)


27 posted on 12/22/2012 8:49:49 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Mercat

Every day is a blessing. You can only try to love them back as much as they love you.


28 posted on 12/22/2012 8:50:57 PM PST by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Rushmore Rocks

I’d say both dog and owner need more training.


29 posted on 12/22/2012 8:52:02 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Joe 6-pack

Agreed. That’s an excellent book. Hopefully some Freepers who are new to dog owning will pick it up.


30 posted on 12/22/2012 8:56:07 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Salamander
I cannot believe she was right in the dog’s face, looking him in the eye while he’s pulling rank on her.

I think the dog thought the whole thing was a game; The dog repeats the classic play-bow posture, while wagging it's tail. Even the woman is laughing, so I think she knows this is a game, too.

I wouldn't be all that surprised if she had invited that dog up onto the bed five minutes before she went and got the video camera.

That said, of all the things to teach a dog, disobedience shouldn't be one of them.

31 posted on 12/22/2012 9:01:59 PM PST by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Salamander

“Please, please, no more. I’ll tell all the Freepers I know to donate as soon as you let me use your computer again. (I hope you haven’t yet found out that I shed on your computer the last time I used it, yet....) “ —Odhinn

I think we just discovered the real reason why Freep-a-thons have “bursts” of increased donations-—more Freepers become aware of Odhinn’s plight and donate to save him.


32 posted on 12/22/2012 9:02:58 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: navysealdad

When I tell my dog “good night” she will go to her bed. She is never allowed on my bed.


33 posted on 12/22/2012 9:03:08 PM PST by ThomasThomas
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To: Dallas59

Big dog who doesn’t obey is a bad combination. The dog won that confrontation and is the boss of the house.


34 posted on 12/22/2012 9:07:40 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: Altariel

LOL...I was just about to FReepmail you and ask where you were.

[get *out* of my head]

;D


35 posted on 12/22/2012 9:08:24 PM PST by Salamander (If animals could speak, mankind would weep.)
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To: Altariel
Did I ever tell you I once had dinner with the Monks of New Skete?


36 posted on 12/22/2012 9:08:24 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: ThomasThomas

To each his or her own. I’ve had dogs all my life, as many as three at a time. Large and small, alpha to very timid. Every one of them has been welcome to sleep in the bed with me. It’s invariably their favorite part of the day, they love it. “Let’s go to sleep” is all they’ve ever needed to hear and off they’ve went, happily. I’ve had a few who wouldn’t and they were the meekest. Even they enjoyed bedtime though, and slept right beside the bed.

Never had a problem with any of them thinking they ruled the house. They all knew I did. I don’t think it’s at all necessary to deprive them of the physical closeness of sleeping side by side just to prove it. They do love it so, all of them I’ve ever had.


37 posted on 12/22/2012 9:14:40 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Salamander

Very cute...


38 posted on 12/22/2012 9:14:45 PM PST by fattigermaster
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To: navysealdad

Ummm...not the mastiff. That’s alarming.


39 posted on 12/22/2012 9:18:02 PM PST by fattigermaster
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To: Monitor

Growls are never acceptable.

Today the dog thinks it’s ‘fun’.

Tomorrow you get your face ripped off by the monster you foolishly created.

He may have been ‘play bowing’ but to me it looked like a dominant but -very- conflicted dog.

It doesn’t want to bite her..yet also is flaunting its disobedience.

It’s a young dog and is confused by its place in the hierarchy.

Growl/play/bite?

Bad scene.

Bad habit to ingrain.

She’s laughing because she doesn’t have a clue what’s happening.

A “wagging tail” means *nothing* if you aren’t reading the dog’s body language as a whole.

When Odin is wanting to rip apart somebody who messing with him while he’s the truck, his nub is going a thousand miles an hour and I guarantee you that although he may be “happy”, he is *not* playing a game.


40 posted on 12/22/2012 9:18:19 PM PST by Salamander (If animals could speak, mankind would weep.)
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To: fattigermaster

We were working on the barking/clapping seal act but he just can’t get the whole flipper concept right.

[no fish for him]


41 posted on 12/22/2012 9:20:02 PM PST by Salamander (If animals could speak, mankind would weep.)
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To: Altariel; TheOldLady
"or the dog gets it"

[woulda been more effective if it looked like he even gives half a rip]..;D

42 posted on 12/22/2012 9:23:47 PM PST by Salamander (If animals could speak, mankind would weep.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

The big difference is that when you tell the dog “off,” he jumps off the bed. I like having a dog who will sleep next to me, but it is at my bidding.

A 120lb dog who won’t follow commands and growls at his owner is no joke.


43 posted on 12/22/2012 9:31:19 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: Joe 6-pack

Check out the texts of William R. Koehler....THAT is dog training. W.Disney pretty much had his choice of dog and animal trainers/handlers and Mr. Koehler did it well. I will have to study/research your recomended so I can learn the new.


44 posted on 12/22/2012 9:35:01 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (That Queer Kenyan muzzy bastard is not my president. ENFORCE the Bill of Rights.)
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To: Altariel

Our dog sleeps in our bed but will certainly get down when I tell her to, although she does sulk about it and give me stink eye while jumping down. She acts like I’ve really offended her/hurt her feelings; she’s quite obedient in all things though, so maybe she still knows I’m her better even though I let her in my bed?


45 posted on 12/22/2012 9:45:59 PM PST by hulagirl (Mother Theresa was right)
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To: navysealdad
I agree with most everything that's been posted about this. That's not funny, it's frightening. The fact that she posts it on the internet for the world to see indicates that she doesn't see any problem here. I hate to imagine how she may come to learn just what a problem she has created. Not good.

Now, this is cute...

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46 posted on 12/22/2012 10:05:56 PM PST by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Stupid, stupid woman.


47 posted on 12/22/2012 10:06:19 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: lonevoice

That is a really cute video. Reminds me of when we would take our dog and young son (the age of the kid in the clip) and they would both run and play in the huge mud puddles.

The other parents HATED us as their kids would want to play in them, and whine to mommy when they couldn’t.


48 posted on 12/22/2012 10:22:32 PM PST by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Not funny. Not cute. She’s confusing the damn dog. Dogs need things in black and white, like children. I’m crazy about dogs, but this could even be dangerous.


49 posted on 12/23/2012 12:13:44 AM PST by cydcharisse (`)
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To: navysealdad

My cat just drapes himself over my legs and dares me to move.


50 posted on 12/23/2012 12:45:42 AM PST by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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