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Why Culture Is Never Responsible for Mass Murder
Esquire ^ | 12/22/2012 | Stephen Marche

Posted on 12/22/2012 10:39:54 PM PST by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 12/22/2012 10:40:00 PM PST by nickcarraway
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**** as if Megan Fox were plugging thoughts into Adam Lanza’s mind.***

I believe Jodie Foster was on John Hinkley’s mind when he pulled the trigger.

And the Columbine killers were fixiated on who would play them in a made-for-TV movie.


2 posted on 12/22/2012 10:44:32 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL INSTITUTIONS! Damn the ACLU!)
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The GOP could learn a thing or two from the NRA, which is the most successful lobbying organization the United States has ever seen.

First, when your enemies are falsely blaming you for something bad that has happened don't deny the false charges. Instead go right back at your enemies and blame them for the problem. Second, never give an inch to people who are trying to destroy you.

Hollywood and the Media hate the NRA. The NRA knows this and instead of crying about the bad things Hollywood and the Media are doing to the NRA, the NRA is now going after Hollywood and the Media and trying to cripple them.

The NRA knows how to win a culture war. Maybe it is time for the GOP to take notes.

3 posted on 12/22/2012 10:58:30 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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...our media has completely lost it...


4 posted on 12/22/2012 10:59:21 PM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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Anyone interested in understanding the underlying training responsible for creating sociopaths in our public school system?

Guns don't kill people. Video games don't kill people.

People sufficiently disengaged from all moorings will kill people.

Our public schools have been happily creating such sociopathic messes for decades.

All according to plans laid out by progressive educators to turn our country into a Marxist paradise.

Just wondering if there is anyone out there besides myself who interested in this aspect of the Sandy Hook tragedy.

5 posted on 12/22/2012 11:00:35 PM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - V. Lenin)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

You do realize that nothing Jody Foster did actually sent signals to John Hinkley or anyone to kill anyone. Hinkley was crazy.


6 posted on 12/22/2012 11:05:25 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Did you know Hinkley’s father was the largest contributor to George H.W. Bush’s reelection campaign.


7 posted on 12/22/2012 11:07:25 PM PST by nickcarraway
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(But the question of culture is not worth discussing. There’s nothing to discuss.)

This is the typical way that liberals like to have a “conversation”. It reminds me about the way Al Gore likes to have a “conversation” about global warming: the science is settled, there is nothing more to discuss!

It’s a wonderful discussion when it’s one-way, isn’t it?


8 posted on 12/22/2012 11:13:44 PM PST by winner3000
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“(But the question of culture is not worth discussing. There’s nothing to discuss.)

This is the typical way that liberals like to have a “conversation”. It reminds me about the way Al Gore likes to have a “conversation” about global warming: the science is settled, there is nothing more to discuss!

It’s a wonderful discussion when it’s one-way, isn’t it?”

And if you do want to discuss the subject, leftists merely tag you as “insane”. Just as the communists did in the Soviet Union with their adversaries.


9 posted on 12/22/2012 11:17:58 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Slyfox

You get it. It’s good to see someone else who does.


10 posted on 12/22/2012 11:23:34 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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In my many musings I have run into only two other people who know what the hell I am talking about, besides you.

One guy said he remembered the lesson on the Andes plane crash and the resulting eating of dead bodies and he tried to joke about it with his teacher.

One mom said she opted her kids out of the classes where such desensitization was taught, and was successful at getting other parents to follow her lead.

Other than that not many people seem interested in what is the ONLY common denominator among all of the school shooters. That includes the Aurora and VA Tech shooters.

Blaming the guns is much easier than looking at what educators are really teaching. Best to keep to hidden. It might "weaken" the progressive plan.

11 posted on 12/23/2012 12:15:48 AM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - V. Lenin)
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The solution to guns is more guns says the NRA, and the left goes bananas! How is that different then when the libs saying the answer to our debt problem is having more debt?
What QE are we on now, I think I lost count!
Or the answer to our unemployment is having
more on the unemployment rolls?

The hypocrisy just never ends.


12 posted on 12/23/2012 12:20:53 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44 (Fluck this adminstration of misfits.)
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“Culture products do not lead to an increase in murder”

The idiot offers no evidence to prove his assertion. How does he know Hollywood isn’t inciting violence?


13 posted on 12/23/2012 12:27:04 AM PST by y6162
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To: AllAmericanGirl44
The solution to guns is more guns says the NRA, and the left goes bananas! How is that different then when the libs saying the answer to our debt problem is having more debt?

The solution to crime is more guns. More Guns, Less Crime is a book by John Lott that says violent crime rates go down when states pass "shall issue" concealed carry laws.

14 posted on 12/23/2012 12:39:24 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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Wow. Marche is almost breath-taking in his sheer stupidity.


15 posted on 12/23/2012 3:29:32 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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“The NRA executive vice president has just proposed a plan that many predicted the NRA would come up with: The solution to guns is more guns.”

I for one was very pleased with LaPierre’s response. Was afraid the NRA would cede ground.Now while I am all for more guns I did not hear LaPierre say that the solution to guns was more guns. That would imply that guns are a problem which they are not. All I heard was him calling for armed security at schools which would not require more guns.

I am also a little unclear on Lanza’s use of the Bushmaster. All the talking heads are saying he used it but I thought he left it in his trunk.


16 posted on 12/23/2012 3:53:42 AM PST by crude77
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...a plan that many predicted the NRA would come up with: The solution to guns is more guns.

We need to be aware that phraseology is impoortant - they use it in everything to own the talking points. In this caes it's "The solution to guns is more guns". Other recent articles/statements talk about "balance" and "responsiblity".

We can never formulate our arguments by allowing them to posit some nonsense - we have to initially rephrase/destroy their initial phrases first.

17 posted on 12/23/2012 4:56:14 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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Re: But the question of culture is not worth discussing. There's nothing to discuss. Culture products do not lead to an increase in murder. Period.

Really?

In the 1800's, there were no background checks, no waiting periods, no age requirements, gun locks did not exist, there were no arbitrary gun restrictions, gun safes were few and far between, yet school shootings NEVER happened. I have yet to have one person show me an example of a teen shooting up a school even though guns were much more accessible kids.

Culture is the ONLY thing which can explain these shootings.
18 posted on 12/23/2012 5:38:29 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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Ya think the FACT (reported ONLY in the foreign press) that our sweet young murderer was a SATAN-WORSHIPER (check his website) had anything to do with his atrocity??

Naaaaah. Of course not.

Silly me.


19 posted on 12/23/2012 6:27:21 AM PST by Flintlock (PARANOIA--means having all the facts.)
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The idiot offers no evidence to prove his assertion. How does he know Hollywood isn’t inciting violence?

He provides the evidence that other countries watch the exact same movies (and have even more violent locally-produced movies) and play the same video games, but are far less violent.

So what is your response to his evidence other than calling him an idiot? There's someone in this argument with no evidence, and it isn't the author of the piece.

The onus is on people to prove Hollywood IS inciting violence, not that Hollywood ISN'T inciting violence.

20 posted on 12/23/2012 6:47:57 AM PST by Strategerist
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