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Obama: “It’s a Time to Celebrate the Birth of Christ … and Learn From His Example”
Cybercast News Service ^ | December 23, 2012 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 12/24/2012 12:08:10 AM PST by Olog-hai

In a Christmas message to the nation delivered together with First Lady Michelle Obama, President Barack Obama said that for his family Christmas is “a time to celebrate the birth of Christ” and “learn from His example.” …

… You see, the war in Iraq is over. The transition in Afghanistan is underway. After a decade of war, our heroes are coming home. And all across America, military families are reuniting. …

… For my family and millions of Americans, it’s a time to celebrate the birth of Christ. To reflect on His life and learn from His example. Every year, we commit to love one another. To give of ourselves. To be our brother’s keeper. To be our sister’s keeper. But those ideas are not just part of our faith. They’re part of all faiths. And they unite us as Americans. …



TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: antichrist; christinchristmas; deceiver; obamaonreligion; obamaquotes; obamunism; secularhumanist; waronchristmas
We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net…

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

— John Adams
Yet the current POTUS proposes to have the populace so unbridled. Not a message worthy of Christmas, I believe?
1 posted on 12/24/2012 12:08:15 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

That’s great Barry. Then you wouldn’t mind if Christ came back and tore up the the treasury.

Money changers....


2 posted on 12/24/2012 12:35:05 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Olog-hai

I love how Obama yet again takes a quote from the murderer Cain and turns it into a Christian Doctrine.


3 posted on 12/24/2012 12:41:29 AM PST by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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>> You see, the war in Iraq is over.

And the war on the Constitution is well underway.


4 posted on 12/24/2012 12:44:48 AM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Olog-hai

A Prime candidate for the good Lord to demonstrate His grace and the power of exorcism. Meanwhile, please keep praying for America.


5 posted on 12/24/2012 12:52:15 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: Olog-hai

Tell us where in the New Testament or the Old Testament, Bammy, where Christ was endorsing and enabling gay marriage, declared war on traditional marriage between a man and a woman, endorsed and enabled abortion, and left a baby to die after an abortion attempt.

Give us chapter and verse where all those things are, Bammy.

Give us chapter and verse where Jesus endorsed faith in anyone but Himself, Bammy.


6 posted on 12/24/2012 1:38:52 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Vendome

hmm ~ thought that dispute was over the first fruits doctrine ~


7 posted on 12/24/2012 1:47:18 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Olog-hai

And yet Obama’s real brother still lives in a hut in Kenya on $24 a year. Aren’t you HIS keeper, Barry?


8 posted on 12/24/2012 2:14:26 AM PST by mkmensinger
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To: Olog-hai

Barry is The Son of Lies, a prince of Perdition..


9 posted on 12/24/2012 2:17:05 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: F15Eagle

You forgot to mention over taxing the people into oblivion.


10 posted on 12/24/2012 2:18:57 AM PST by exnavy (Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: Olog-hai

“a time to celebrate the birth of Christ” and “learn from His example.”

Says the guy whose Party took religion out of their platform!! Who advocates the killing of unborn children! What a phony!


11 posted on 12/24/2012 2:22:42 AM PST by Batman11 (We came for the chicken sandwiches and a Sweet Tea Party broke out!)
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To: Olog-hai

He speaks of Jesus as if he were just an ordinary prophet of peace, no more elevated than say, Mahatma Ghandi, MLK, etc. He further debases his “praise” by equating elements of faith in Jesus equal to other religions.

You have a humanization of Jesus, coupled with an equalization of other religions (I’m sure in his mind Allah and Islam) in which he is only making this perfunctory speech because he’s still not yet ready to proclaim he’s a Muslim.

Starkly, Jesus said he was the Son of God. Not a prophet, not just a human who wanted to good, to be equal with Muslims - the Son of God. If he can’t reserve the celebration of his birth on that day without humanizing and diluting the claim he should have just shut the hell up.


12 posted on 12/24/2012 3:18:37 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: F15Eagle

Amen Eagle:


13 posted on 12/24/2012 5:01:29 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Olog-hai

Every year, we commit to love one another. To give of ourselves. To be our brother’s keeper. To be our sister’s keeper. But those ideas are not just part of our faith. They’re part of all faiths.
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When have I ever heard the word LOVE enter the vernacular of the Muslim.
Muslims kill their sisters if that sister had sex, got raped, or just dated a Christian, I guess that’s being their keeper.
They murder their “brothers” ever day if that ‘brother’ happens not to belong to their particular sect of their cult.
Maybe Obama doesnt consider his Muslim faith to be a faith at all, but certainly this statement is BS when it comes to Muslims.


14 posted on 12/24/2012 5:07:14 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Gaffer

>>He speaks of Jesus as if he were just an ordinary prophet of peace,

According to the koran, Jesus is the greatest of all prophets (until Mohammed). It says that he is nothing more, but that he will return as a destroyer of those who blasphemed allah by declaring him to be Son of God (and that, folks, is us Christians).

This is obviously what Obama believes too.


15 posted on 12/24/2012 5:08:36 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: F15Eagle

0bama must have forgotten that the Christ told His followers to arm themselves.


16 posted on 12/24/2012 5:17:32 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Olog-hai
Every year, we commit to love one another. To give of ourselves. To be our brother’s keeper. To be our sister’s keeper. But those ideas are not just part of our faith. They’re part of all faiths.

False, Mr. Obama, please provide a book, chapter and verse telling us to be our brother's keeper, before blaspheming His name.

It also isn't our commitment to love one another, but a command to love our brother as Christ loved His fellow man with a brotherly love. God isn't foolish enough to base His love upon our commitment, nor does He demand our commitment, but He does command us to love our fellow man as He loved us.

17 posted on 12/24/2012 5:36:54 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Olog-hai

Merry Christmas and prayers for Obama’s salvation.


18 posted on 12/24/2012 6:13:40 AM PST by bray (Welcome to Obamaville)
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To: Olog-hai

“To give of ourselves. To be our brother’s keeper. To be our sister’s keeper.”

He’ll try to use this to push more “social” programs. I got news for you Barry. Jesus was NOT a socialist!


19 posted on 12/24/2012 6:39:31 AM PST by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: Batman11

20 posted on 12/24/2012 7:14:51 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Olog-hai

What, Obama wants to be nailed to a cross?


21 posted on 12/24/2012 7:55:54 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio)
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To: Gaffer
Starkly, Jesus said he was the Son of God. Not a prophet, not just a human who wanted to good, to be equal with Muslims - the Son of God. If he can’t reserve the celebration of his birth on that day without humanizing and diluting the claim he should have just shut the hell up.

Jesus IS God, who came to earth in human form, and as THE ONLY sinless being was an acceptable sacrifice to die for our sins, so that to those who believe this, they may have eternal life.

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. (John 3:16)

However,

19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. (John 3:19-20)
22 posted on 12/24/2012 8:04:17 AM PST by crosshairs (It's all about good vs evil. In the end, evil is destroyed.)
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To: Olog-hai
Obama: “It’s a Time to Celebrate the Birth of Christ … and Learn From His Example”

As in resist and deny evil? Somehow I don't think that's what he wants...

23 posted on 12/24/2012 8:41:51 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: All
To be our brother’s keeper.

As usual, BHO has absolutely NO idea that this phrase comes from Cain, who said it in a mocking response to God.

But, typical of BHO as a liar.

24 posted on 12/24/2012 9:39:09 AM PST by Prov1322 (Enjoy my wife's incredible artwork at www.watercolorARTwork.com! (This space no longer for rent))
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To: obama

             


And a Very Merry  FUØ !

25 posted on 12/24/2012 10:13:42 AM PST by tomkat (liberty or death)
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To: sheik yerbouty

Yep. How more of the country can not see through this veneer is beyond me.


26 posted on 12/24/2012 10:18:56 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Olog-hai; Revolting cat!
… You see, the war in Iraq is over. The transition in Afghanistan is underway. After a decade of war, our heroes are coming home. And all across America, military families are reuniting. …

IF the wars are over, why are Americans still dying in foreign lands?

So much for his MISSION ACCOMPLISHED rhetoric.

27 posted on 12/24/2012 11:07:52 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: F15Eagle
How more of the country can not see through this veneer is beyond me.

The edumacated liberal wing of the party is atheist (having "moved beyond" the "superstitions" of their parents) but they permit him to shuck and jive for the masses in flyover country (as Ubama explained to those at the California fundraiser) who "cling to religion" to secure a majority vote support.

Pelosi herself explained the need to "close the God gap" after the Democrats lost in 2004. They cloak the rhetoric of Socialism under the language of religion. The policies are already decided, it's just finding the quotes to back up the policies.

28 posted on 12/24/2012 11:15:21 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: a fool in paradise

I think of these verses:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Corinthians+4:4&version=KJV

2 Corinthians 4:4

King James Version (KJV)

4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,
lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ,
who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Thessalonians+2:11&version=KJV

2 Thessalonians 2:11

King James Version (KJV)

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion,
that they should believe a lie:


29 posted on 12/24/2012 11:23:07 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: muawiyah

Yeahhhhh ....I knew they were gay....


30 posted on 12/24/2012 11:31:47 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: F15Eagle
Obama is a deceiver. An anti-Christ who leads the flock astray.

The MEANING of Christmas is not merely “follow his example”, it is that God gave us all a gift (even the non-believers) and that gift is Jesus Christ, the Son of Man. Our Redeemer and Savior. He died for our sins.

But not for Barry who was raised by an agnostic mother, two muslim fathers, and a Unitarian grandmother.

2004 Interview: Obama Talks about Jesus, Heaven and Sin
CBN (June 3, 2008)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2111204/posts

 
(GG is God Girl aka Cathleen Falsani)

GG:  Who’s Jesus to you?

OBAMA:  Right. Jesus is a historical figure for me, and he’s also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher. And he’s also a wonderful teacher. I think it’s important for all of us, of whatever faith, to have teachers in the flesh and also teachers in history.

GG:  The conversation stopper, when you say you’re a Christian and leave it at that.

OBAMA:  Where do you move forward with that? This is something that I’m sure I’d have serious debates with my fellow Christians about. I think that the difficult thing about any religion, including Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize and prostelytize. There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior that they're going to hell.

GG:  You don’t believe that?

OBAMA:  I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell.  I can’t imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity.  That’s just not part of my religious makeup.

Part of the reason I think it’s always difficult for public figures to talk about this is that the nature of politics is that you want to have everybody like you and project the best possible traits onto you. Oftentimes that’s by being as vague as possible, or appealing to the lowest commong denominators. The more specific and detailed you are on issues as personal and fundamental as your faith, the more potentially dangerous it is.

GG:  Do you believe in heaven?

OBAMA:  Do I believe in the harps and clouds and wings?

GG:  A place spiritually you go to after you die?

OBAMA:  What I believe in is that if I live my life as well as I can, that I will be rewarded. I don’t presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die. But I feel very strongly that whether the reward is in the here and now or in the hereafter, the aligning myself to my faith and my values is a good thing.

When I tuck in my daughters at night and I feel like I’ve been a good father to them, and I see in them that I am transferring values that I got from my mother and that they’re kind people and that they’re honest people, and they’re curious people, that’s a little piece of heaven.

GG:  Do you believe in sin?

OBAMA:  Yes.

GG:  What is sin?

OBAMA:  Being out of alignment with my values.

GG:  What happens if you have sin in your life?

OBAMA:  I think it’s the same thing as the question about heaven. In the same way that if I’m true to myself and my faith that that is its own reward, when I’m not true to it, it’s its own punishment.

In the fall, Obama’s critics are going to go after him because they don’t believe he’s a “true Christian.”  (read: abortion, civil unions, etc) I think the Obama religious outreach team is ready for that debate. They believe that Christianity speaks to more public policy positions than just abortion and gay marriage.

The man has not declared any belief in GOD who created him or Jesus as his personal Savior. He's frontin' and selling lies of an anti-Christ.

31 posted on 12/24/2012 12:01:03 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: a fool in paradise

“OBAMA: I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell.”

He wrote the same thing in one of his books. I picked one up at a bookstore and randomly flipped it open. I wound up reading just that. Put the book back down and left the store. It was obvious to me that this man knows nothing about the Gospel and the mission to spread the Gospel.

He’s an ecumenical, all-roads, one-world-er.

At a minimum.


32 posted on 12/24/2012 12:24:06 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: a fool in paradise

i don’t give him credit for being up to the rank of antichrist ~ more like an acolyte of the antichrist ~ that’s the best this punk can do


33 posted on 12/24/2012 1:11:25 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

an anti-Christ figure doesn’t have to be The Son of Satan. He only needs to be a deceiver who acknowledges Jesus and then does all he can to deliberately lead the flock astray.

Mohammed is an anti-Christ figure as well. Islam is the only major religion to acknowledge the existence of Jesus while rewriting the history to deny who He is.

We are told that Islam is “of the same religious traditions” of Judeo-Christian faiths. It’s the death cult of a conquoring warlord who hijacked the Bible for his own purposes.

Barack Obama isn’t a muslim either but he has a hard-on for Islamic theocratic rule.


34 posted on 12/24/2012 1:16:06 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: F15Eagle

In another interview he boasted of having a “healthy skepticism of organized religion” which he got from his crackpot liberal mother.

In the interview I’ve included in this thread, he cites the transfer of values from parent to child as his life leasons on religion.

He doesn’t attend church anymore because he doesn’t have to. Chicago was about being an “affiliated” community organizer.


35 posted on 12/24/2012 1:20:19 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: a fool in paradise
Difference in theological outlook ~ RCC has it that being an antichrist is a characteristic of some real people. Protestants, in general, have it that being an antichrist is to be a specific real person who has been prophesied.

The compromise position is to accept at least one, with these other exceptionally evil folks being, at a minimum, acolytes of the antichrist.

At some depth of understanding of the concept ~ that some people place themselves totally within the authority of Satanic power ~ I think we are all in agreement. Only the names are changed to protect the innocent.

36 posted on 12/24/2012 1:24:51 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: F15Eagle

All the dumbing down of 5 decades has taken its toll. The masses have become asses. They are like the followers of Korach who worshipped the Golden Calf.
In any case, have a Merry Christmas!


37 posted on 12/25/2012 12:50:12 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: sheik yerbouty

Merry Christmas to you, too, and everyone.

Yes, I’ve talked to folks who are unable to figure it out. I’ve learned it’s a waste of time to talk to them.

They are ‘true believers’.


38 posted on 12/25/2012 1:09:35 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Olog-hai

Pres Bongo will say anything that will resonate with the low information voter.


39 posted on 12/25/2012 1:42:23 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything)
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To: sheik yerbouty

But the earth swallowed those people up.


40 posted on 12/25/2012 1:47:50 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Have a little patience!


41 posted on 12/25/2012 11:59:24 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

“The need for entitlement programs has never been greater since Christ reminded us that ‘the poor will always be with you.’ Oh, and while I’ve got your attention, just sign right here, it’s your personal pledge, a loyalty oath sworn on and to me personally. Allah akbar.”

Thanks Olog-hai.


42 posted on 12/27/2012 4:27:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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