Skip to comments.I wanna be like you: Kanzi, the ape who HAS learned the secret of man's red fire...(title truncated)
Posted on 12/24/2012 8:40:38 PM PST by fattigermaster
Eagerly he collects wood from the ground, snaps the branches into small pieces and carefully balances them in a pile. Then, taking care not to burn himself, he gently strikes a match and gets ready for a fry-up. Like all red-blooded males, Kanzi loves messing around with a barbecue. But then, as these extraordinary pictures show, Kanzi is no man. He is a bonobo -pygmy chimpanzee -and his love of fire is challenging the way that we think about our closest relatives in the animal kingdom. For although bonobo apes and larger chimpanzees use twigs and leaves as tools, none has ever shown such skill for cooking food.
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Which is worse, monkeys with matches or dems with money?
“Which is worse, monkeys with matches or dems with money?”
There’s a difference?
Oh yea, I guess there is. Monkeys are trainable.
“Hey, monkey! Those matches? You didn’t build those!”
That would be ‘Rats with yo stash.
What would he do in the wild? Nothing. He cannot create matches. Has no concept of chemistry. And if they did manage to start a fire would burn down the whole forest. This is more evilution nonsense.
Unless he can rub two sticks together to start a fire he’s just aping what humans have trained him to do.
I’d put a lemur with a gun (Fierce Creatures) up against them anytime. Definitely the dumbest animal with (sort of) opposeable thumbs.
It just so happens that humans learn by aping their parents. We’re not born with the ability to make fire any more than the ape is. The percentage of Americans who know how to start a fire from scratch, and have actually done so, is miniscule. I used to show bus loads of people daily how to start a fire with a steel and flint and with a bow and fireboard, how to find tinder and how to prepare charcloth. None of them had ever done it.
So what would a human do ? I think matches are very close to gun powder but I would have a hard time finding sulphur, potasium nitrate to make it and without looking it up, I don't know the proportions either. And frankly, it took humans a really long time to discover gunpowder.
No one is saying a chimp is as smart as human. What these people are saying is that humans and apes are not that far apart.
DON'T call me a monkey.
I'll bet his favorite scene involved Rae Dawn Chong and Perlman in a cage.
Matches have been used for gunpowder. Can’t remember if it was Robert Ruark or Peter Capstick who told the story of having to go after a bull elephant that had been wounded by a local villager with a homemade rifle using matches as the powder and a short piece of 1/2 inch rebar as the projectile.
I agree. The ability to strike a match is significantly different that actually making fire from raw materials. More pseudo scientific gobbledygoook from the pinhead crowd.
And I am saying the God has has declared it an immeasurable gulf. Apes have no spirit. No spark. They are bereft of grasping the concept of eternity. Man is further from Ape than light is from darkness.
But does he know how to refill a Zippo lighter?