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I wanna be like you: Kanzi, the ape who HAS learned the secret of man's red fire...(title truncated)
UK Daily Mail Online ^ | Davy Derbyshire

Posted on 12/24/2012 8:40:38 PM PST by fattigermaster

Eagerly he collects wood from the ground, snaps the branches into small pieces and carefully balances them in a pile. Then, taking care not to burn himself, he gently strikes a match and gets ready for a fry-up. Like all red-blooded males, Kanzi loves messing around with a barbecue. But then, as these extraordinary pictures show, Kanzi is no man. He is a bonobo -pygmy chimpanzee -and his love of fire is challenging the way that we think about our closest relatives in the animal kingdom. For although bonobo apes and larger chimpanzees use twigs and leaves as tools, none has ever shown such skill for cooking food.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Pets/Animals; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: animals; apemakesfire; barbecue; chimpmakesfire; kanzi; zoology

1 posted on 12/24/2012 8:40:43 PM PST by fattigermaster
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To: fattigermaster; Revolting cat!

2 posted on 12/24/2012 8:43:42 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: fattigermaster
LMAO - the thought that immediately came to mind was the comparison with the fools in the current administration.

Which is worse, monkeys with matches or dems with money?

3 posted on 12/24/2012 8:50:03 PM PST by eldoradude (Let's water the tree of liberty with THEIR blood...)
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To: eldoradude

“Which is worse, monkeys with matches or dems with money?”

There’s a difference?

Oh yea, I guess there is. Monkeys are trainable.


4 posted on 12/24/2012 8:52:29 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: eldoradude

“Hey, monkey! Those matches? You didn’t build those!”


5 posted on 12/24/2012 8:58:15 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Republicans have made themselves useless, toothless, and clueless.)
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To: I cannot think of a name

That would be ‘Rats with yo stash.


6 posted on 12/24/2012 9:09:01 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: fattigermaster

What would he do in the wild? Nothing. He cannot create matches. Has no concept of chemistry. And if they did manage to start a fire would burn down the whole forest. This is more evilution nonsense.


7 posted on 12/24/2012 9:09:46 PM PST by Waywardson (I did not vote for that pro-abortionist candidate!)
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To: fattigermaster

Unless he can rub two sticks together to start a fire he’s just aping what humans have trained him to do.


8 posted on 12/24/2012 9:14:46 PM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: eldoradude

I’d put a lemur with a gun (Fierce Creatures) up against them anytime. Definitely the dumbest animal with (sort of) opposeable thumbs.


9 posted on 12/24/2012 9:55:51 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Domandred

It just so happens that humans learn by aping their parents. We’re not born with the ability to make fire any more than the ape is. The percentage of Americans who know how to start a fire from scratch, and have actually done so, is miniscule. I used to show bus loads of people daily how to start a fire with a steel and flint and with a bow and fireboard, how to find tinder and how to prepare charcloth. None of them had ever done it.


10 posted on 12/24/2012 11:16:44 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Waywardson
What would he do in the wild? Nothing. He cannot create matches. Has no concept of chemistry.

So what would a human do ? I think matches are very close to gun powder but I would have a hard time finding sulphur, potasium nitrate to make it and without looking it up, I don't know the proportions either. And frankly, it took humans a really long time to discover gunpowder.

No one is saying a chimp is as smart as human. What these people are saying is that humans and apes are not that far apart.

11 posted on 12/24/2012 11:59:53 PM PST by staytrue
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To: ClearCase_guy
Don't call me a monkey!
12 posted on 12/24/2012 11:59:55 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: Squawk 8888

DON'T call me a monkey.

13 posted on 12/25/2012 12:01:24 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: Waywardson
LIeber/Stoller (Coasters) came up with a simple scheme for getting from a monkey to a man back in the 50s and all which was involved was a simple process of education and assimilation, Occam's principle demanded that it be preferred over evolution:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdVMQbZwP-0

14 posted on 12/25/2012 2:15:43 AM PST by varmintman
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To: fattigermaster
He used to watch the film Quest For Fire when he was very young which was about early man struggling to control fire. He watched it spellbound over and over hundreds of times.’

I'll bet his favorite scene involved Rae Dawn Chong and Perlman in a cage.

15 posted on 12/25/2012 3:06:29 AM PST by Vinnie (A)
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To: staytrue

Matches have been used for gunpowder. Can’t remember if it was Robert Ruark or Peter Capstick who told the story of having to go after a bull elephant that had been wounded by a local villager with a homemade rifle using matches as the powder and a short piece of 1/2 inch rebar as the projectile.


16 posted on 12/25/2012 5:40:19 AM PST by Dusty Road
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To: Waywardson

I agree. The ability to strike a match is significantly different that actually making fire from raw materials. More pseudo scientific gobbledygoook from the pinhead crowd.


17 posted on 12/25/2012 8:28:22 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: staytrue
What these people are saying is that humans and apes are not that far apart.

And I am saying the God has has declared it an immeasurable gulf. Apes have no spirit. No spark. They are bereft of grasping the concept of eternity. Man is further from Ape than light is from darkness.

18 posted on 12/25/2012 9:17:32 AM PST by Waywardson (I did not vote for that pro-abortionist candidate!)
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To: fattigermaster

But does he know how to refill a Zippo lighter?


19 posted on 12/25/2012 9:21:33 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Dusty Road
Sounds like George Orwell.
20 posted on 12/25/2012 1:20:45 PM PST by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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To: Vinnie

I’ll bet his favorite scene involved Rae Dawn Chong and Perlman in a cage.
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I always likes Rae Dawn ,, Naomie Harris as Moneypenny is pretty hot too..


21 posted on 12/25/2012 1:32:38 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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