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NY Fireman shooting lack of reporting?
12/25 | t1

Posted on 12/25/2012 7:11:41 AM PST by CGASMIA68

Why nothing on the fireman shooting in NY. All the usual suspects,MSNBC,CNN void of any or little coverage. Could it be because the shooter was a certified wack job and the system released him after slaying his G Mom with a hammer. Could it be all the weapons were possibly purchased legally and if so with his past history he never should have been allowed to be near a fire arm or a hammer. Any opins/


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To: 9422WMR

She didn’t take him in. The mother did and when she died he snapped


21 posted on 12/25/2012 8:17:30 AM PST by GreaterSwiss
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To: FreeAtlanta
In the 1980 murder news story, Assistant DA Louis Pilato and Monroe County Court Judge Eugene W. Bergin both agreed to Willilam Spengler's last second plea bargaining to manslaughter (just as jurors were to be brought in), despite the admission that such a late plea is not normally accepted. (A 25-year prison sentence resulted.)

These men bear some of the moral guilt for the murders of the firemen.

22 posted on 12/25/2012 8:18:01 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: 9422WMR
That was the family home for many years. The family actually owned 2 houses...side by side on Lake Road. I only looked up the one. No. 191 is in his name.

I'm having trouble swallowing his friend's story that he loved his mother...hated his sister...because he beat his grandmother to death with a hammer. The guy loves no one.

And I'd check on the friend....cons hang with cons.

And the guns....we are surprised why??

Bad people have guns and kill people.

Good people have guns but don't kill people. Got it !!

Our police chief is noticeably angry that this guy was set ever free. We all feel the same. THE SYSTEM IS WRONG. LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE...OR THE NEEDLE.

23 posted on 12/25/2012 8:26:28 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Carl Vehse

There was a plea deal....Manslaughter instead of Murder 1....the difference being (as the general point) premeditation. I’m sure they will dig up all the old articles.


24 posted on 12/25/2012 8:29:51 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: lacrew
Please don’t let the left define the terms....

Hence my quotes around "hunting."

25 posted on 12/25/2012 8:32:47 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Carl Vehse

Absolutely....


26 posted on 12/25/2012 8:33:38 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: t1b8zs

From the NBC story posted on another thread:

“Police would not say what kinds of guns Spengler used,but as a convicted felon,he could not legally own firearms.”

I wonder WHERE and HOW he got the weapon(s)?

Maybe that’s one of the reasons for the lack of coverage....


27 posted on 12/25/2012 8:38:37 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: t1b8zs
It appears that William was the executor for the grandmother he killed and inherited her house at 193 Lake Road...It is right next door to the house he was living in with his wife Arline G. at No. 191 Lake Road...and the address given for the fire.

We have not even heard the name of the wife (probably ex.)in the local media.

It appears that neither the sister or his mother had any interest in the property.

28 posted on 12/25/2012 8:55:44 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: GreaterSwiss

Neither the mother nor the sister appear to have any interest in the property. So he took THEM in.


29 posted on 12/25/2012 8:58:18 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: GreaterSwiss

I got this ALL wrong....His father was also william and his mother was Arline who died a short while ago. William JR, the killer, owned nothing that I can find.


30 posted on 12/25/2012 9:12:26 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: WildHighlander57

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20121225/us-fire-shooting-weapons/?utm_hp_ref=sports


31 posted on 12/25/2012 9:29:33 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: t1b8zs

Back in the 1960s and 1970s firemen would not go into certain areas of cities because they were being shot at when they responded to a fire.


32 posted on 12/25/2012 9:46:32 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL INSTITUTIONS! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: t1b8zs

Is’nt it time we recognize this threat to our first respoonders for what it is?

Fire department response personnel are mobile ‘firearm free zones’?


33 posted on 12/25/2012 9:48:20 AM PST by hockea (1z2z)
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To: t1b8zs

Is’nt it time we recognize this threat to our first responders for what it is?

Fire department response personnel are mobile ‘firearm free zones’?


34 posted on 12/25/2012 10:03:19 AM PST by hockea (1z2z)
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To: Yo-Yo

Police said Spengler was using a Bushmaster .223-caliber rifle – the same gun as used by the gunman in the Newtown massacre. He was also armed with a .38 revolver and a shotgun.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/25/webster-police-gunman-left-chilling-note-before-luring-firefighters-into-trap/


35 posted on 12/25/2012 10:08:52 AM PST by ironman
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To: Carl Vehse
In the 1980 murder news story, Assistant DA Louis Pilato and Monroe County Court Judge Eugene W. Bergin both agreed to Willilam Spengler's last second plea bargaining to manslaughter (just as jurors were to be brought in), despite the admission that such a late plea is not normally accepted. (A 25-year prison sentence resulted.)

These men bear some of the moral guilt for the murders of the firemen.

Let us not leave out the most guilty of all, the defense lawyers and their firms, who get those that they know are guilty lighter sentences or even entirely off.

36 posted on 12/25/2012 10:40:43 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: t1b8zs

Not to diminish the issue, but... Doesn’t this happen every year on OCT 30 throughout Detroit?


37 posted on 12/25/2012 11:02:41 AM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: ironman

An actual Bushmaster, or do reporters just call every AR pattern rifle a Bushmaster now? A felon would not be allowed to own or possess one regardless.


38 posted on 12/25/2012 11:24:58 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog
It was indeed a Bushmaster per LE.

And a felon would not be able to own a firearm. True...And that's the point....Tighter gun laws are useless. Felons friend's are felons...they'll get you whatever you want for bucks.

And that was the point of fast and furious...our oh so clever plot to infiltrate the firearms black market. How'd that work out again??

39 posted on 12/25/2012 12:08:54 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: t1b8zs

Christmas in rural Iowa has seen this headlined in every local newscast as well as on HLN.


40 posted on 12/25/2012 2:28:43 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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