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Does anyone know of a list of anti-2nd Amendment business?? (VANITY)
12/28/2012 | Me

Posted on 12/28/2012 5:52:12 PM PST by surroundedbyblue

So I read earlier tonight that Buffalo Wild Wings has signs posted on their doors that "ban all guns from these premises". Apparently this is old news, but I am just hearing about it now. Does any FReeper know of a comprehensive list of businesses/chains that have the same policy?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment; vanity
I'd like to know if the restaurant I'm patronizing has set me up to be a sitting duck for some thug.

Thanks FReepers!

1 posted on 12/28/2012 5:52:19 PM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: surroundedbyblue

A list of the PRO second amendment businesses will be a lot shorter and save internet bandwidth.

In fact, outside of the sporting goods industry, you will find few business that will even admit the 2nd amendment exists!


2 posted on 12/28/2012 6:00:47 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: I cannot think of a name

Actually I think most retail businesses don’t think about it much at all. If they did they would be posting signs not permitting weapons.

The one that stands out in my mind is the Cinemark theater chain (made famous in Aurora CO, or perhaps infamous), which states explicitly that no weapons are permitted. It is the only theater chain where I have seen such a sign. Though I do admit my sample size isn’t that large.


3 posted on 12/28/2012 6:09:23 PM PST by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

I think it’s pretty standard for bars not to allow firearms - at least in Connecticut (kind of why they normally don’t serve alcohol at gun ranges). Buffalo Wild Wings is a bar - so that might be the issue.


4 posted on 12/28/2012 6:10:49 PM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: I cannot think of a name

Hallmark cards has had an anti-gun stance for a long time.

Oddly enough they are pretty good on family friendly movies etc.


5 posted on 12/28/2012 6:11:16 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

One way:

Ask the owner, which would mean only going to restaurants where you can actually talk to the owner.


6 posted on 12/28/2012 6:11:45 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: surroundedbyblue

A business advertizing that it is gun free. What could possibly go wrong?


7 posted on 12/28/2012 6:12:38 PM PST by lurk
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To: Psalm 73
I think it’s pretty standard for bars not to allow firearms

That's part of Texas CCW law - you don't carry into an establishment that makes more than 50% of their income from the consumption of alcohol.
Meaning I can carry into a liqueur store, but not into a bar.

8 posted on 12/28/2012 6:16:02 PM PST by grobdriver
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To: surroundedbyblue

When I was stationed at Hood 40 years ago the honky tonks in the surrounding areas had “check your gun” signs at the doors. It worked OK I guess. Saw and took part in a few bar fights but never saw a shot fired. Those were the days.:-)


9 posted on 12/28/2012 6:16:41 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: surroundedbyblue

The entire Mall of America is posted at the exterior entrances. What they don’t know won’t hurt them. Everyone
I know, carries whenever they go there.


10 posted on 12/28/2012 6:17:16 PM PST by Fireone (Impeach and imprison, NOW! Treason and murder are still crimes.)
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To: Psalm 73

I think it’s pretty standard for bars not to allow firearms - at least in Connecticut

********

God Bless Texas...because some do.


11 posted on 12/28/2012 6:19:05 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

DNC


12 posted on 12/28/2012 6:19:47 PM PST by jennychase
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To: surroundedbyblue
I'd like to know if the restaurant I'm patronizing has set me up to be a sitting duck for some thug.

Mc Donalds? If I remember right...

13 posted on 12/28/2012 6:27:42 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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To: Psalm 73
I think it’s pretty standard for bars not to allow firearms - at least in Connecticut

Open carry, or concealed = A 'ok in VA so long as the owner hasn't posted a sign and you don't drink ANY alcohol while carrying.

14 posted on 12/28/2012 6:29:16 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: grobdriver

That’s part of Texas CCW law - you don’t carry into an establishment that makes more than 50% of their income from the consumption of alcohol.
Meaning I can carry into a liqueur store, but not into a bar.
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Texas law prescribes the language, font size, etc. of a sign businesses are to post if they wish to exclude CHL holders. Any stock signs that say “No Guns” I interpret to mean that they don’t sell them.


15 posted on 12/28/2012 6:33:49 PM PST by Joe Bfstplk
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To: publius911
I think it’s pretty standard for bars not to allow firearms - at least in Connecticut
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God Bless Texas...because some do.


Only if they aren't just a bar. Concealed carry, under Texas law, requires any business that derives 51%+ of their income from on-site alcohol consumption to post a related 51% sign, which disallows CHLs from carrying on the premises. So the only bars you can legally carry at are ones that are part of a fuller restaurant, where they sell more food than alcohol.

Unless, of course, you're referring to longguns, which Texas law barely even mentions. Those can legally be carried anywhere under Texas law, though you may have issues in a few places from Federal law.
16 posted on 12/28/2012 6:38:50 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: JouleZ

No bars in Texas allow carry. It’s against state law. You cannot carry in any establishment that earns more than 51% of it’s revenue from booze, and if an establishment meets that criteria, by law, it must post the 51% sign.

Plenty of restaurants that serve alcohol allow carry, but bars by their very nature, cannot.


17 posted on 12/28/2012 6:41:30 PM PST by Melas (u)
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To: surroundedbyblue

Some states require such signs and others it is the law if over 51% of the business’s income from alcohol consumed ON THE PREMISES.

Thus carry in a liquor store is legal yet beer and wings joint such as BWW’s and Hooters etc must ban carry per said states BS gun laws.

May not be the owners or companies polices at all....

Just saying. All is not what it appears as to pro or con on that issue.

My experience / opinion here in Texas with concealed carry....

Stay safe !


18 posted on 12/28/2012 6:42:56 PM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: grobdriver

In PA, one can drink in bars while carrying, and guess what? No shootouts ever occur because of it.


19 posted on 12/28/2012 6:44:56 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

in good old Hoosierland, we can carry anywhere that it is not expressly forbidden.

Was just discussing this at my local watering hole. The bartender told me she never worries about much because she knows there at least 4-6 guys carrying at any time on a busy night.

and that many more with something in their vehicle(where mine stay)


20 posted on 12/28/2012 7:01:35 PM PST by digger48
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To: surroundedbyblue

What state are you in? Before you start getting a bunch of people spouting off places, you should know that many places are required by LAW, not company policy, to not allow firearms on their premises.

For example, in Texas, any place that sells alcohol as more than 50% of their income, for on-site consumption, is required to post a sign, which disallows concealed carry. Also, racetracks or any location a collegiate or professional sporting event takes place.
However, Texas law doesn’t really mention longguns aside from displaying them in a ‘public place in a manner calculated to alarm’, so you can take those anywhere but a post office or airport secure area. (Federal longgun bans.)

So, the only place I’ve actually seen, that legally disallows carry, is the Hilton Anatole hotel in downtown Dallas. I’ve never seen the 30.06 sign anywhere else. Some places may have a circle-slash no-handgun sign, but that has no legal meaning in Texas, so I don’t worry about them.


21 posted on 12/28/2012 7:04:08 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: surroundedbyblue
Dunno where in the country you are. Michigan Coalition of Responsible Gun Owners keeps a list of anti-Second Amendment businesses here: MCRGO - Do Not Patronize while Armed
22 posted on 12/28/2012 7:23:41 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: I cannot think of a name

I’ve seen many an open carry patron inside of Cracker Barrel, albeit a Cracker Barrel in Texas....


23 posted on 12/28/2012 7:31:41 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: Melas

My experience was in a Texas restaurant with a bar and we were seated in the bar where it was legal to have a gun. They even had a sign up behind the bar (keep your anger and guns holstered) and patrons were open carrying. We were CCW. Anyway, love Texas!


24 posted on 12/28/2012 8:10:47 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

US Govt is anti-2nd Amemndment biz:
For 200 years we have been bringing home war trophy weapons legally and now then this crap and they want to take away everything my ancestors fought for in 1775-81. What a bunch of SOB traitors!
Infringements starting even before WW2 with the lame excuse “to protect US Public from criminals guns”, the US govt takes away Our Guns!

“War relics must be registered
Nov 19 1946 Plattsburgh Press Republican
ALBANY, NY * — Servicemen.
ex-servicemen and others who have certain types
of unregistered war trophies as souvenirs may be in violation of the Gun Control Act of 1968.
unless these weapons or devices are registered with the Internal Revenue Service by Dec 1. An Internal Revenue spokesman said that machine guns, sawed-off shotguns, sawed-off rifles, bazookas, rockets, mortars,bombs, mines, grenades and similar destructive devicesthat have been retained as souvenirs or war trophies mustbe registered or turned in by June deadline.
Representatives of the IRS Alcohol and Tobacco Tax Division offer assistance registering
or disposing of any such weapons or devices, he said. Owners should not bring the weapon or device to the IRSbut should call, write or visit the nearest Alcohol and Tobacco Tax or other IRS office for informationand assistance-— The law provides that those
who fail to register or dispose of the specified firearms or destructive devices which they possess, may be subject to imprisonment up to 10 years, fines up to $10,000. or both Civil penalties can also be imposed and property forfeitures take place


Trophies to Be Made Legal
in Program Under National
Firearms Act
Machineguns and machine pistols, war trophies of foreign make, must
be registered and deactivated to bring their possessors “within the law.” For this purpose Treasury
Department operatives will establish offices at police headquarters this morning and will maintain a
12-hour schedule for the next three days, from 9:00 a. m to 9:00 p. m. Veterans possessing any firearm of foreign make can qualify themselves to keep their souvenirs lawfully
by bringing them to police headquarters on any of the days—
today through Thursday. After registrations, deactivation of the weapons makes them unserviceable but in no way mars the appearance of the guns as souvenirs. All guns are
duly returned to their owners. Registration of guns is a nationwide program. Investigations made in recent months under the National Firearms Act have a bearing on the risk and problem of exceptionally dangerous war trophy weapons,
brought or shipped to this country by veterans, falling into
unauthorized hands by theft or unrecorded transfer and being put to unlawful uses never intended or contemplated by the veteran. Already there have been committed
a large number of major crimes in various sections of the
country, where foreign automatic weapons, introduced as war trophies or souvenirs were used. The drive cf the Treasury Department is aimed at preventing these weapons
and firearms from falling into the hands of gangsters, racketeers, bank robbers and other types
of criminals.
The Alcohol Tax Unit, Bureau of Internal Revenue, is charged with the enforcement of the National Firearms Act, which provides a penalty not to exceed $2,000 or imprisonment
not to exceed five years, or
both, in the event a person is convicted
of violating any provisions
of the Act. Veterans, register your
foreign weapons today!”
Nov 19 1946 plattsburgh press republican

These SOB`s already broke their own law with fast n furious -they gave weapons “into the hands of gangsters, racketeers, bank robbers and other types
of criminals”.. Treason!


25 posted on 12/28/2012 8:20:16 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (We`ve been raped!!.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

I haven’t been out to eat much recently. However I looked at as many entrances to businesses as possible. I haven’t seen any sort of no weapons/firearms allowed signs with the exception of the local indoor malls.


26 posted on 12/28/2012 9:02:02 PM PST by matt04
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To: Melas
No bars in Texas allow carry.

Oh, how I long for the good old days.

You were checked at the door for guns, if you didn't have one,,,they issued you one.

27 posted on 12/28/2012 9:50:45 PM PST by DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
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To: JouleZ

When was this? 1932? Open carry is highly illegal here, anywhere, let alone a bar. That would not happen today.


28 posted on 12/28/2012 9:56:31 PM PST by Melas (u)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I’m in PA! Good to know!


29 posted on 12/28/2012 10:19:49 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: Melas

I am telling you what we saw and did in a restaurant/bar in Texas about 5 years ago, Melas. If you have a problem with it stay away from people who open carry.


30 posted on 12/28/2012 10:43:46 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

I look for the signs they are required to post if they don’t want me to be protected while in their establishment. If I see a sign, I go to to one of their competitors’ establishments.


31 posted on 12/29/2012 3:27:55 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

Check out http://www.gunburger.com/GunBurger/Phoenix_AZ.html

It’s an AZ oriented site but many of the businesses listed are national chains. Note that some companies seem to have blanket policies while others seem to leave it up to the individual franchisee - Chipotle in Phoenix allows open carry but in Tucson has a no guns sign posted.


32 posted on 12/29/2012 6:57:18 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Because 2 terms with Jerry Brown as Governor was all I could take.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

Goodyear is a gun free zone...my local Firestone dealer 3 blocks away carries in his store. Guess where I buy my tires?


33 posted on 12/29/2012 7:05:57 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (...and to the Republic for which it STOOD...)
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To: surroundedbyblue

North Carolina..
Can’t carry in any restaurant that serves alcohol, Olive Garden, TGI Fridays, etc.
Can’t carry in any place you pay admission, movie theater, etc.
No government property, buildings, fairgrounds, etc.
And of course, any establishment posted ‘No Firearms’.

In need of some major changes.


34 posted on 12/29/2012 7:45:37 AM PST by Vinnie (A)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Thanks!


35 posted on 12/29/2012 8:01:48 AM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I was carrying once in a bar (concealed).. won a pool game, no worries.. BUT the guy’s GF complimented me on the game.. next thing I know, I was sucker-punched right on the nose by the jealous BF (that lost, hehe).. That was a weird experience, btw.. I fell back like a 2x4 falling down..

This was in Texas, but I was a peace officer (Deputy) at the time. Of course, the guy didn’t know that (my badge and .45 were under the cover of my pull-over)..
The Bar owner knew me, and that I was a cop.. immediately had the guy removed and profusely apologized to me... I just laughed it off ;)

Always wondered what the guy though after he found out that not only was I carrying.. but that I was a cop too :D


36 posted on 12/29/2012 9:34:08 AM PST by Bikkuri (Hope for Conservative push in the next 2-4 years..........)
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To: JouleZ
I am telling you what we saw and did in a restaurant/bar in Texas about 5 years ago, Melas. If you have a problem with it stay away from people who open carry.

You bet I will as it's illegal in Texas. As a matter of fact I can lose my CHL if my weapon prints through my shirt or becomes visible in any way.

37 posted on 12/29/2012 4:17:46 PM PST by Melas (u)
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To: Joe Bfstplk

On-Premise Retail Establishment
Four signs are required to be posted at an on-premise retail establishment such as a bar or restaurant.

Weapons Warning Sign - If alcohol sales constitute less than half of gross receipts, the required sign says: “It is unlawful to carry a weapon on the premises unless the person is licensed to carry the weapon under the concealed handgun law.” If alcohol sales constitute more than half of gross receipts, the signs have 51% in large red letters superimposed over the warning which notes that possession of a concealed weapon on the premises is a felony.
Public Information/Complaint Sign - If you have a complaint about the sale or service of alcoholic beverages in this establishment, please contact the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission, PO Box 13127, Austin, Texas 78711-3127, or phone 1-888-THE-TABC.
National Human Trafficking Hotline Number (English and Spanish) - WARNING: Obtaining forced labor or services is a crime under Texas law. Call the national human trafficking hotline: 1-888-373-7888. You may remain anonymous. (Restaurants that hold a Food and Beverage Certificate are exempt from this requirement.)
Health Risk Warning Sign: Warning of the dangers associated with drinking alcoholic beverages during pregnancy. Visit our Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorders page for more information.

THEY have a 51% law. Signs will be posted even in restaurant/bars.


38 posted on 05/06/2013 4:04:41 PM PDT by eahnee
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