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'Django' an unsettling experience for many blacks
Los Angeles Times / latimes.com ^ | December 28, 2012 | By Erin Aubry Kaplan, Special to the Los Angeles Times

Posted on 12/28/2012 7:03:36 PM PST by thecodont

Tracey White's initial impression of "Django Unchained," Quentin Tarantino's new slave-era shoot-'em-up extravaganza, could be summed up in three words: smart, funny and ugly. Sitting through a recent screening in Beverly Hills, the L.A. costume designer was mostly absorbed and found herself laughing aloud at particularly outrageous moments.

But White, who is black, said her feelings evolved significantly. Two days after reflecting on the matter of slavery and Tarantino's treatment, she pronounced the movie mostly ugly.

"He [Tarantino] gets a good product out of it in terms of wit and a visual look," said White. "But when it was over I found myself wondering, 'What is he trying to do?' I enjoyed the movie when I was in there, but I still have a problem with Tarantino when he deals with our race."

White will certainly not be alone among African Americans in her ambivalence about the gleefully outrageous film. While "Django" has nabbed almost uniformly warm reviews and four NAACP Image Award nominations (including for best picture), the fact is that it is an extremely Hollywood-ized vision of a critical black American experience.

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KEYWORDS: django; hollywood; moviereview; quentintarantino; quentintarentino; race
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1 posted on 12/28/2012 7:03:45 PM PST by thecodont
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To: thecodont

the movie is fiction and stars two actors that I despise the most. I have no interest or intent to see the movie.

I really don’t care what blacks think about the movie :

although I will say that blacks ought to be angry due to the lack of historical integrity in the film.


2 posted on 12/28/2012 7:07:52 PM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: thecodont
Tarantino won't see a dime of my dough, and not because of the goofy reasons asserted in this quintessentially assinine review.
3 posted on 12/28/2012 7:08:09 PM PST by skeeter
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To: thecodont
I enjoyed the movie when I was in there, but I still have a problem with Tarantino when he deals with our race."

Then maybe you should get over your perpetual racism and then you might see it as another stupid pointless product of Hollywood and move on without trying to attach some kind of significance to it.
4 posted on 12/28/2012 7:17:36 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: thecodont

When I see the garbage truck go by I expect it to be full of garbage, when I see a Hollywood flick touted endlessly I expect the same thing.


5 posted on 12/28/2012 7:18:49 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: thecodont
This movie goes way beyond "Mississippi Burning" and that movie caused a lot of whites to get beaten.

The MSM take of course is that only blacks suffer violence at the hands of whites..

so I got DoJ figures for the years 2000 - 2008. I expected that by now there would be figures through 2010. If there are figures for years after the Department of Justice was replaced by the Obama/Holder Department of Just Us and Our People they are not in this series (see at bottom) that I used.

Criminal Victimization in the United States, [YYYY] Statistical Tables

Table 42: "Percent distribution of single-offender victimizations, by type of crime, race of victim, and perceived race of offender"

Year of Stats Race of Victims % White
Offenders
% Black
Offenders
%
Not known
& other
2000 Crimes of violence
4,120,110 White 73.1 % 14.7 % 12.2 %
702,850 Black 12.6 81.9 5.5 *
Completed violence
1,263,820 White 71.6 14.3 14.1 *
220,880 Black 6.3 * 92.2 1.5 *
Attempted/threatened
violence
2,856,290 White 73.8 14.8 11.4
481,970 Black 15.5 77.2 7.3 *
Year of Stats Race of Victims % White
Offenders
% Black
Offenders
%
Not known
& other
2001 Crimes of violence
3,661,770 White 74.7 % 14.4 % 10.9 %
660,720 Black 10.7 83.1 6.3
Completed violence
1,069,400 White 72.3 18.0 9.7
214,810 Black 6.0 * 87.5 6.5
Attempted/threatened
violence
2,592,370 White 75.7 12.9 11.4
445,910 Black 13.0 80.9 6.1 *
Year of Stats Race of Victims % White
Offenders
% Black
Offenders
%
Not known
& other
2002 Crimes of violence
3,427,980 White 72.6 % 13.6 % 13.7 %
617,970 Black 16.2 74.5 9.3 *
Completed violence
1,056,610 White 71.8 15.4 12.9 %
186,240 Black 8.6 * 84.6 6.7 *
Attempted/threatened
violence
2,371,370 White 73.0 12.8 14.1 *
431,730 Black 19.5 70.1 10.4 *
Year of Stats Race of Victims % White
Offenders
% Black
Offenders
%
Not known
& other
2003 Crimes of violence
3,283,030 White 72.9 % 12.1 % 15.0 %
556,140 Black 12.0 74.8 13.2
Completed violence
879,830 White 71.4 13.4 15.2
190,170 Black 8.3 * 77.3 14.4 *
Attempted/threatened
violence
2,403,210 White 73.5 11.6 14.9
365,970 Black 14.0 73.5 12.6 *
Year of Stats Race of Victims % White
Offenders
% Black
Offenders
%
Not known
& other
2004 Crimes of violence
3,382,920 White 52.7 % 9.6 % 37.7
559,130 Black 10.8 73.6 15.6
Completed violence
1,052,650 White 57.9 8.8 33.2
222,910 Black 7.3 * 78.8 14.0
Attempted/threatened
violence
2,330,270 White 50.3 10.0 39.6
336,230 Black 13.2 70.2 16.6 *
Year of Stats Race of Victims % White
Offenders
% Black
Offenders
%
Not known
& other
2005 Crimes of violence
3,201,320 White 49.0 % 13.5 % 37.5 %
507,210 Black 10.4 63.5 26.1 *
Completed violence
916,130 White 51.2 14.3 34.5
192,040 Black 4.7 * 69.7 25.6 *
Attempted/threatened
violence
2,285,190 White 48.1 13.2 38.8
315,170 Black 13.9 59.7 26.4 *
Year of Stats Race of Victims % White
Offenders
% Black
Offenders
%
Not known
& other
2006 Crimes of violence
3,699,360 White 69.3 % 13.0 % 17.7 %
719,880 Black 11.5 74.8 13.7
Completed violence
1,057,920 White 65.2 19.2 15.6
299,970 Black 9.5 * 80.1 10.4 *
Attempted/threatened
violence
2,641,450 White 70.9 10.5 18.6
419,920 Black 12.9 71.0 16.0 *
Year of Stats Race of Victims % White
Offenders
% Black
Offenders
%
Not known
& other
2007 Crimes of violence
3,262,660 White 68.0 % 13.3 % 18.7 %
562,470 Black 9.9 72.8 17.2 *
Completed violence
916,170 White 70.5 13.4 16.2
171,460 Black 1.5 * 84.6 13.9 *
Attempted/threatened
violence
2,346,480 White 67.1 13.2 19.6
391,010 Black 13.7 67.7 18.7 *
Year of Stats Race of Victims % White
Offenders
% Black
Offenders
%
Not known
& other
2008 Crimes of violence
2,788,600 White 67.4 15.4 17.1
570,550 Black 15.9 64.7 19.5
Completed violence
706,540 White 67.8 19.4 12.9 *
210,740 Black 14.5 * 66.5 19.0 *
Attempted/threatened
violence
2,082,050 White 67.3 14.1 18.7
359,800 Black 16.8 63.6 19.7 *

*0.0 Estimate is based on 10 or fewer sample cases.
Percentage may not equal 100% due to rounding.

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008

6 posted on 12/28/2012 7:21:42 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: thecodont

The left is best at stirring up the worst in humanity... envy, hatreds, classism, racism, unjustified retribution, lawlessness, changing the truth into a lie , taking what’s not theirs, and on and on and on...


7 posted on 12/28/2012 7:22:12 PM PST by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: thecodont
Every Tarantino film is "mostly ugly."
8 posted on 12/28/2012 7:23:49 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: txnativegop

Democrats can’t afford to have blacks getting an honest look at history. They’ll find that their American history is a proud one going back to well before slavery in America.


9 posted on 12/28/2012 7:26:08 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: count-your-change

Tarantino is one I would vote as being most unbalanced and likely to find dead bodies buried on his property one of these days.


10 posted on 12/28/2012 7:31:21 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: thecodont

Those blissfully ignorant of history will take this film to heart. Those blissfully ignorant will take this film to heart. Those blissfully looking for a reason to hate will take this film to heart.


11 posted on 12/28/2012 7:32:55 PM PST by doc1019
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
I have a habit of engaging black people in debate, usually once I get to know them, about racial issues, primarily because they tend to be so indoctrinated with the "everything is whitey's fault" attitude, and when I hear that attitude expressed, it's go time. So one day I was chatting with a black lady that I used to work with, and she expressed the opinion that most white people were racist, or had the potential to be racist. When I asked her what her justification for that was, she couldn't really answer.

So I straight out asked her this: "Has any white person ever called you a nigger?" She had to admit that nobody ever had. To which I answered, "Well, not only have I been called "white boy" a number of times [which is the black man's equivalent of calling a white man a "nigger"] but I've had the distinct pleasure of being in the middle of a large group of black men who were threatening to beat my ass for being white."

So who are the real victims of racism these days? The ones who have to read about the days when their ancestors were treated badly because of race, or the ones who are treated badly NOW because of race? I want reparations!

None of this changed her mind, or course. Brainwashing runs deep.
12 posted on 12/28/2012 7:33:51 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: BenLurkin

Mel Brooks could make a movie, zero right in on race and beat the crap out of EVERYBODY and leave em laughing.

Better still, we didn’t spend time analyzing what he was trying to portray. We were just pawns in great game of life.


13 posted on 12/28/2012 7:34:30 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: thecodont
"He [Tarantino] gets a good product out of it in terms of wit and a visual look," said White. "But when it was over I found myself wondering, 'What is he trying to do?' I enjoyed the movie when I was in there, but I still have a problem with Tarantino when he deals with our race."

Good grief. She admits to enjoying the movie but still has to find something (racial) to b*tch about. It's a freakin' MOVIE!

14 posted on 12/28/2012 7:35:51 PM PST by wvguy
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To: thecodont
While "Django" has nabbed almost uniformly warm reviews and four NAACP Image Award nominations

I wonder what awards the NAAWP is planning to give the movie.

15 posted on 12/28/2012 7:40:06 PM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. — Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: fr_freak

Would she listen to a black woman?

Would she DARE take THE TEST? (ask her to.)

WHY the conservative talking heads don’t interview this woman is one of the reasons I think they’re just in radio for the money—NOT to help change things—just to fatten their pocketbooks. (Rush, Levin, Hannity-INTERVIEW this woman!!!!)

http://www.nbra.info/DYK-HistoryTest


16 posted on 12/28/2012 7:42:37 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: cripplecreek

17 posted on 12/28/2012 7:42:53 PM PST by wvguy
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To: wvguy
These days, inciting anger at whitey seems to be a winning box office strategy.

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18 posted on 12/28/2012 7:44:07 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: txnativegop

That’s like saying Inglorious Basterds didn’t capture the reality of assassination teams operating behind enemy lines in WWII. Tarantino uses history as a backdrop to make his points, but he operates in a world of his own. I think he’s brilliant.


19 posted on 12/28/2012 7:45:51 PM PST by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: thecodont

As a Jew, I hated Inglorious Bastards and, of course, i will tell you why. The theme was Jewish revenge. But the same people who made this movie are the same people who wish to disarm us now and have put an enemy of the Jews into office. I believe we Jews are in big big danger. And just like pre-Hitler Germany, we are in total denial.


20 posted on 12/28/2012 7:47:05 PM PST by Hildy (hen the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates)
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