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Humans have been drinking beer for 11,500 years
Antiquity ^ | Dietrich, Oliver, et al

Posted on 01/01/2013 10:38:04 AM PST by Renfield

(Abstract of article only):

The role of cult and feasting in the emergence of Neolithic communities. New evidence from Göbekli Tepe, south-eastern Turkey
1Deutsches Archäologisches Institut, Orient-Abteilung, Podbielskiallee 69–71, D-14195 Berlin, Germany (Email: odi@orient.dainst.de; jn@orient.dainst.de; kls@orient.dainst.de), 2Norwegian University of Life Sciences, P.O. Box 5003, NO-1432 Aas, Norway (Email: manfred.heun@umb.no), and 3Technische Universität München, Wissenschaftszentrum Weihenstephan, Weihenstephaner Steig 20, D-85354 Freising, Germany (Email: Martin.Zarnkow@wzw.tum.de)

*Author for correspondence


Göbekli Tepe is one of the most important archaeological discoveries of modern times, pushing back the origins of monumentality beyond the emergence of agriculture. We are pleased to present a summary of work in progress by the excavators of this remarkable site and their latest thoughts about its role and meaning. At the dawn of the Neolithic, hunter-gatherers congregating at Göbekli Tepe created social and ideological cohesion through the carving of decorated pillars, dancing, feasting—and, almost certainly, the drinking of beer made from fermented wild crops.


(Excerpt) Read more at antiquity.ac.uk ...


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; History
KEYWORDS: anatolia; archaeology; beer; gobeklitepe; godsgravesglyphs; sanliurfa; turkey; zymurgy

Gobleki Tepe is dated to about 11,500 years ago.

1 posted on 01/01/2013 10:38:12 AM PST by Renfield
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To: SunkenCiv; Red_Devil 232

Ping.

And oops, sorry, that age figure should have been 11,000 years, not 11,500 years.


2 posted on 01/01/2013 10:41:08 AM PST by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Renfield

Time for Toby Keith to come up with more verses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6pMX719cgE


3 posted on 01/01/2013 10:42:43 AM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: SunkenCiv; Red_Devil 232

The abstract doesn’t include this, but in the full article there is mention of a brewing trough that the archaeologists reckon could have held up to 400 gallons of beer. Maybe Gobekli Tepe was just a big party spot. (I found that bit about the beer trough quoted in another article referencing the scientific paper.)


4 posted on 01/01/2013 10:44:02 AM PST by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Renfield
Here is the proof:


5 posted on 01/01/2013 10:45:57 AM PST by Lockbar (Quality Factory Loaded Ammunition-----The New Gold)
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To: Renfield
So cave men had beer guts, who'd figure that?

"hold muh beer..."

6 posted on 01/01/2013 10:46:37 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Renfield; quantim; spinestein; 5Madman2; DTogo; Horatio Gates; Ribeye; decal; B Knotts; doodad; ...
Gotta ping the homebrewers list to the article.

And a little YouTube video for those who who might be interested. How Beer Saved The World!

7 posted on 01/01/2013 10:46:39 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Renfield
Humans have been drinking beer for 11,500 years

Sounds like an alcoholic to me.

8 posted on 01/01/2013 10:48:38 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Renfield

A 400-gallon beer trough. Man, I gotta get one of those for the rumpus room. BTT.


9 posted on 01/01/2013 10:48:54 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Lockbar

Man... I remember opening cans with an opener like that. I was a kid and they were coke cans... but I hadn’t thought about that in years. Big hole to drink out of.. and smaller one for air. Wow...


10 posted on 01/01/2013 10:49:11 AM PST by kjam22 (my newest music video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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To: Renfield

Looks like I’ve got a lot of catching up to do :)


11 posted on 01/01/2013 10:51:43 AM PST by Rock Hardplace
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To: Renfield
And oops, sorry, that age figure should have been 11,000 years, not 11,500 years

You drink that much beer and you're bound to lose track of time!

12 posted on 01/01/2013 10:52:05 AM PST by Redcloak (Winter is coming.)
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To: kjam22

When I was a kid, practically every used car you bought came with a churchkey in the glove compartment, for the convenience of the new owner.


13 posted on 01/01/2013 10:52:05 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Renfield

Which means guys have been doing stupid and dangerous stunts for 11,499 years. :)


14 posted on 01/01/2013 10:52:22 AM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Some cultures are destined to remain stupid and we need to quit trying to uplift them.)
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To: Renfield

I Like Beer
15 posted on 01/01/2013 10:55:32 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (You are not now, and will never be my President, Mr. Obama.)
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To: Renfield

“. . . that age figure should have been 11,000 years . . .”

11,000 years. Never gets old, does it?


16 posted on 01/01/2013 10:59:28 AM PST by No Truce With Kings (Ten years on FreeRepublic and counting.)
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To: Renfield; martin_fierro; Charles Henrickson

Ich bin ein Biertrinker


17 posted on 01/01/2013 11:00:41 AM PST by mikrofon (Im Himmel gibt es kein Bier...)
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To: Renfield

...and women have been complaining about men drinking beer for just as long....


18 posted on 01/01/2013 11:01:37 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: ATLDiver

Ping


19 posted on 01/01/2013 11:05:45 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: kjam22
Man... I remember opening cans with an opener like that. I was a kid and they were coke cans... but I hadn’t thought about that in years. Big hole to drink out of.. and smaller one for air. Wow...

I remember being allowed to open a steel can with a church key all by myself (and doing it right) it as something of a rite of passage.

Mr. niteowl77

20 posted on 01/01/2013 11:13:37 AM PST by niteowl77 (Oh, crap.)
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To: niteowl77

With beer cans open one hole, then hold the hole with a finger. Flip the can upside down and poke another hole. “Shotgun!”


21 posted on 01/01/2013 11:16:01 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Renfield
Some of them start fairly young too.


22 posted on 01/01/2013 11:17:24 AM PST by Lizavetta (You get what you tolerate)
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To: Renfield

How time flys when your drinking beer.


23 posted on 01/01/2013 11:17:43 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Renfield
We have been renting beer for 11,500 years.

Had we chosen the "rent to own" option, we'd really be in great shape at this point.

24 posted on 01/01/2013 11:19:41 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Republicans have made themselves useless, toothless, and clueless.)
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To: Renfield

The circular structures, the pillars, the animal motifs...

I think it is/was the oldest ZOO in the world!


25 posted on 01/01/2013 11:21:58 AM PST by djf (Conservative values help the poor. Liberal values help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: Renfield

11,000 years and still going strong!

26 posted on 01/01/2013 11:22:53 AM PST by mc5cents
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To: mc5cents

Helping ugly people to have sex for 11,500 years!


27 posted on 01/01/2013 11:35:08 AM PST by wrench (I want my country back)
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To: Renfield

My favorite song lyrics:

In heaven there is no beer
That’s why we drink it here
And when we are gone from here
Our friends will be drinking all the beer.

Want me to start on “100 bottles of beer on the wall...”?

I didn’t think so.


28 posted on 01/01/2013 11:39:18 AM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: Renfield

What about the “young earthers”?

I guess they weren’t old enough to drink.


29 posted on 01/01/2013 11:41:33 AM PST by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Redcloak

This explains so much, if that moron that discovered beer could have made vegetable soup, we would have progressed a lot further, been smarter, healthier, not to mention skinnier.. Fewer ugly people too, the last woman in a restaurant after a bowl of vegetable soup doesn’t look any better at closing.. jus sayin.. :)


30 posted on 01/01/2013 11:42:34 AM PST by carlo3b (Less Government, more Fiber..)
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To: Redcloak

Lol!


31 posted on 01/01/2013 12:03:36 PM PST by Silentgypsy (If you love your freedom, thank a vet.)
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To: Le Chien Rouge
women have been complaining about men drinking beer

I've always said, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

32 posted on 01/01/2013 12:05:29 PM PST by Silentgypsy (If you love your freedom, thank a vet.)
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To: carlo3b

But, Chef Carlo, if there were no ugliness, there would be no beauty. ;)


33 posted on 01/01/2013 12:09:49 PM PST by Silentgypsy (If you love your freedom, thank a vet.)
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To: carlo3b
This explains so much, if that moron that discovered beer could have made vegetable soup, we would have progressed a lot further, been smarter, healthier, not to mention skinnier.

You left out boring.

34 posted on 01/01/2013 12:49:03 PM PST by Redcloak (Winter is coming.)
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To: Renfield; wildbill; Little Bill; martin_fierro

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Renfield. This explains some of the hangovers, oh, and November 2012. Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


35 posted on 01/01/2013 1:01:24 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Renfield
Many, many years ago, in Organic Chemistry, the text was Morrison and Boyd. The one quote I remember to this day is as follows:

"The manufacture of soap is one of the oldest of chemical syntheses. (It is not nearly so old as the manufacture of alcohol; apparently, man's desire for cleanliness is much newer than his desire for drunkenness.)"

36 posted on 01/01/2013 1:10:18 PM PST by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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To: Renfield

Hopefully not anywhere near the urine trough. Hate to get em confused.


37 posted on 01/01/2013 1:34:22 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Thanks, RD232!


38 posted on 01/01/2013 1:40:08 PM PST by Aevery_Freeman (The trouble with the "masses" is that they never achieve the "m")
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To: sima_yi
Hey, not that "Many, many"! I still have my Morrison and Boyd.
39 posted on 01/01/2013 1:45:30 PM PST by Aevery_Freeman (The trouble with the "masses" is that they never achieve the "m")
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To: kjam22

One of my fraternity brothers had a necklace made of church keys.


40 posted on 01/01/2013 1:57:08 PM PST by libstripper
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To: Renfield

America!

41 posted on 01/01/2013 2:00:58 PM PST by jaz.357 (Welcome to hell. Here's your accordion.)
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To: 43north

“In heaven there is no beer
That’s why we drink it here
And when we are gone from here
Our friends will be drinking all the beer.”

I’m not so sure. Benjamin Franklin said that beer is proof that God loves us. Hopefully there’s lots of beer in heaven!


42 posted on 01/01/2013 2:15:13 PM PST by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: Renfield

Some nights it sure seems that it has been that long...


43 posted on 01/01/2013 2:46:48 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Renfield

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA7p5VwAXk0


44 posted on 01/01/2013 5:14:25 PM PST by Rock Hardplace
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To: central_va

actually 11,500 in the Near East wouldn’t be cave men, but nomads or small villages as in the case of Gobekli


45 posted on 01/02/2013 5:14:12 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos

Nomads with beer guts.


46 posted on 01/02/2013 5:19:04 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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