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So... tell me again, what did Obama win?
January 2, 2013 | Lancey Howard

Posted on 01/02/2013 11:53:59 AM PST by Lancey Howard

The more I think about the last few days, the more I question whether the African communist actually won anything.

I mean, what’s different now from two weeks ago? Answer: The Bush tax rates are now permanent for 98% of American earners. It would be nice if it was 100%, but geez... The top 2% merely go back to where they were 10 years ago. (The real mistake occurred 10 years ago when the Republicans failed to insist that the rates be made permanent at that time.)

As far as spending “cuts” go, the debt ceiling debate can be used to force that issue and if all else fails, the “painful” sequestration cuts will happen automatically in two months (yesterday’s vote merely put them off for two months), while the Bush tax rates are STILL permanent for 98% of American earners.

(shrug)

I just can’t make myself gnash my teeth about all this the way some around here seem to be doing. To me it looks like Ubanga threw the Republicans into the briar patch.


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To: Lancey Howard

I don’t think JR is going to be hanging himself in the basement, and if by major win for the republicans you mean their committing suicide then you’d be right on that.

They will lose every confrontation, debate or neogtiation from this point forward...or backward for that matter. They have revealed their cowardice and their weakness. You can say goodbye to them in 2014.


21 posted on 01/02/2013 12:17:13 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Lancey Howard

I am with you Lancey....always so much doom and gloom around here. Of course the media will play it as a win for Obama and the rats...so what. Tax cuts r good!


22 posted on 01/02/2013 12:17:33 PM PST by yellowdoghunter
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To: Lancey Howard

“Answer: The Bush tax rates are now permanent for 98% of American earners.”

No, their not permanent. Their only permanent until they raise them again.


23 posted on 01/02/2013 12:17:47 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: Tenacious 1
Going over the cliff would have reduced the debt obligations. It would have raised taxes on everybody too.

Guess what? We are STILL scheduled to "go over the cliff" in two months, at least as far as the "cuts" go. All yesterday's bill did was delay the cuts for two months. The tax part of the equation is settled - - the lower Bush tax rates are now permanent for most people.

24 posted on 01/02/2013 12:18:19 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: JRandomFreeper

You obviously saw what I did there....


25 posted on 01/02/2013 12:18:29 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Lancey Howard

“Answer: The Bush tax rates are now permanent for 98% of American earners.”

No, they are not permanent. Their only permanent until they raise them again.


26 posted on 01/02/2013 12:18:45 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: Lancey Howard
First, I'd have to install a basement.

Second, I'm more likely to hang politicians and their supporters from lamp-posts.

Lots of folks losing business this week, and lots of folks hearing that they no longer have a job.

You can't get around that.

/johnny

27 posted on 01/02/2013 12:18:45 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ColdOne

And with our spineless congress in place, it will be a walk in the park.


28 posted on 01/02/2013 12:19:23 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Lancey Howard
He gets to raise taxes on the top 2% or whatever percentage of earners who make quite a contribution to this economy. How do you think they are gonna react now? How does that help the economy? On top of that, we are adding trillions to the debt as there was no spending cuts in this deal.

If you think the Repubs are gonna hold out for a better deficit reduction deal when time comes for the Debt Limit negotiations, then there is a bridge somewhere I would like to sell you. Show me the evidence in the past where they have fought? Cmon man, don't blow sunshine on this, we were sold down the river.

Also, this premise that some on here like to say about tax cuts for 98% of the population is bogus. what about the payroll tax increase? Cmon man, dont be delusional.

29 posted on 01/02/2013 12:21:50 PM PST by hotsteppa
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To: babygene
No, their not permanent. Their only permanent until they raise them again.

Like the rats did back in '93, just before they got swept out of the House for the first time in 40 years?
Yeah, they'll raise taxes again. Sure they will.

30 posted on 01/02/2013 12:21:58 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Cyber Liberty
Kid called me earlier. She has to let one go. She's something of of softie. It's breaking her heart, but the numbers just aren't there. I think she's going to give the girl 2 weeks notice or pay in lieu.

/johnny

31 posted on 01/02/2013 12:22:29 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: hotsteppa
...what about the payroll tax increase?

The payroll tax "holiday" was Ubama's, and so is the end of the payroll tax "holiday". He owns it.
Get a grip.

32 posted on 01/02/2013 12:25:16 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

I teach children music, private lessons, in their home. It is my only means of support, as I was violently widowed last year, lost my house, and am living from check to check.

Probably most, if not all of my customers make more than $400,000 a year. Once these punitive tax rates kick in, they will start cutting back on goods and services that they consider superfluous.

Guess who will be the first to go.


33 posted on 01/02/2013 12:29:13 PM PST by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Interesting that yours in one of several posted on FR this morning (I am sure more to follow), that is simply put -”what’s the big deal?”
No wonder the Republicans caved.....they will be supported by those very people who are saying, “what’s the big deal?”


34 posted on 01/02/2013 12:29:21 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Lancey Howard

He owns it along with the Repubs. You need to get a grip and again as I said, you are delusional. Read and weep below:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2974310/posts


35 posted on 01/02/2013 12:29:39 PM PST by hotsteppa
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To: Lancey Howard
Guess what? We are STILL scheduled to "go over the cliff" in two months, at least as far as the "cuts" go. All yesterday's bill did was delay the cuts for two months. The tax part of the equation is settled - - the lower Bush tax rates are now permanent for most people.

I suppose you are right. We just set everything up for another chance to cave in February. And they will. There will be some token cut planned for the future that will save a few billion dollars. Then they'll vote to raise the debt limit again.

36 posted on 01/02/2013 12:30:02 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: svcw
Yup they always come on here whenever the GOPe sells us out.
They want us to all to be proud that a crap sandwhich deal was made.
37 posted on 01/02/2013 12:33:38 PM PST by hotsteppa
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To: left that other site
Prayers up. It's gonna be a long time to summer.

I feel bad about the girl my daughter has to let go. She's a good kid, bright and smart, and now in a very tight spot. If I could help her out, I would, but.... That desk drawer is closed as of yesterday.

/johnny

38 posted on 01/02/2013 12:35:03 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: chris37

I wouldn’t even say that. Nobody beats the man upstairs, no matter how hard you try to fight.


39 posted on 01/02/2013 12:35:54 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: 353FMG

Yep, and they are all going to be exempt from the carnage.


40 posted on 01/02/2013 12:37:36 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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