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Gun confiscation: How will it start?

Posted on 01/02/2013 4:03:29 PM PST by rustyboots

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To: Born to Conserve

Well, They gave up their guns in Canada; and they gave up their guns in Australia for cryin out loud! The land of men and outlaws! without so much as a peep! What makes anyone think that Americans are going to be any different when the sheriff comes knocking at the door? I personally have grave concerns sorry to say.


51 posted on 01/02/2013 4:48:27 PM PST by Desparado
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To: rustyboots

“If they decided to go after gun owners who refused to register,... “

And they would gain that knowledge how?

Credit Card checks for gun releated purchases?

And who will “they” send to your door?

And since news travels at the speed of light....Many will see this coming.....and....plan accordingly.

1% non-compliance is more citizens than law enforcement.
And that assumes “they” would have 100% participation.

THAT won’t last long!


52 posted on 01/02/2013 4:53:36 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Drew68

Also went to Gander Mtn

Were cleaned out of 223, 762 x 39 and 762 x 51 ammo

Clerk laughed when asked when could get more “ maybe in 2037...”

Had to settle for some 12 gauge 00 ......


53 posted on 01/02/2013 4:54:18 PM PST by njslim (St)
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To: rustyboots

Hey, they kick your doors down for drugs. Why not guns?


54 posted on 01/02/2013 4:54:18 PM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: rustyboots

Should total confiscation be attempted, all they will do is issue warrants for all known/registered gun owners and wait. The next time you drive the officer runs your tag and see an outstanding warrant. Whaddaya gonna do? Start a running gun battle with himr and bring the whole force down on you? Or how about your family being with you - gonna risk them? i.e. Turn in your guns or stay in jail and risk your job, etc.

Typical of Washington, they’ll put the load on the police forces and pick you off one or two at a time. Maybe each trooper will get a new quota system - to keep the frogs from yelling about the hot water - each pick off no more than 10 or so a day. Yeah, it will take a while but with all 50 states doing it, confiscation will be accomplished with little or no bloodshed - and no door-to-door raids.


55 posted on 01/02/2013 4:57:31 PM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: rustyboots
In the ONES state of Illinois, they have introduced two bills tonite to stop the possession of automatic weapons & close down all public ranges. Here are the bills http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=09700HB0815sam002&GA=97&SessionId=84&DocTypeId=HB&LegID=56601&DocNum=815&GAID=11&Session

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=09700HB1263sam006&GA=97&SessionId=84&DocTypeId=HB&LegID=57242&DocNum=1263&GAID=11&Session

56 posted on 01/02/2013 5:00:29 PM PST by blondee123 (DICTATORSHIP HAS ARRIVED! Nov. 6, 2012)
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To: Michael Barnes

“registered firearms”

There aren’t any in this state and many states, except those requiring the Federal Class III licence.
Full Auto, etc.

Family transfers, private sales, tens of millions untraceable....


57 posted on 01/02/2013 5:01:54 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Osage Orange

Are you saying that they’d never do it, or that it wouldn’t work?

Google “guns for groceries”

They already tried it and it did work.

So carry on, J-off!


58 posted on 01/02/2013 5:02:18 PM PST by djf (Conservative values help the poor. Liberal values help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: Matthew10
Famous politicians will soon join them in a spate of revenge killings, many of which will go unsolved.

Sooner, rather than later..

59 posted on 01/02/2013 5:03:32 PM PST by grobdriver
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To: Born to Conserve
99% will submit to the slaughter like sheep.
The other 1% will suffer horribly.


The 99% "survivors" will suffer horribly too, once the guns are gone and the government is no longer held in check by an armed citizenship.
60 posted on 01/02/2013 5:04:08 PM PST by crosshairs (They are only assault weapons in the hands of tyrannical governments and criminals. Ban both.)
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To: Born to Conserve

“If every gun owner resisted, the tyrants couldn’t do it.

“But.

99% will submit to the slaughter like sheep.
The other 1% will suffer horribly.”

I agree that’s the most likely scenario.


61 posted on 01/02/2013 5:04:47 PM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: Oatka

“The next time you drive the officer runs your tag...”

That officer has a life: friends, Family, a home, a car, etc.


62 posted on 01/02/2013 5:06:53 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: Michael Barnes
Your basic privileges will not be renewed unless you turn in your registered firearms.

A precursor to accepting the Mark of the Beast. I know I wouldn't accept that, knowing that it would cost me my life (temporary life but not eternal life).
63 posted on 01/02/2013 5:07:07 PM PST by crosshairs (They are only assault weapons in the hands of tyrannical governments and criminals. Ban both.)
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To: Matthew10
Your crystal ball gives a very clear picture of our future.

Its coming ,don't know when, but it maybe tomorrow or next year but its coming and it will not be pretty .

64 posted on 01/02/2013 5:07:16 PM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: rustyboots

It’s sad, but we may one day soon rely on the firepower of urban gangs as the last holdout against a Federal government which has turned against its own citizens.


65 posted on 01/02/2013 5:07:28 PM PST by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: dynachrome

How will anyone know what I have?

Do you think that by the time they’ve stooped to credit card checks, the masses won’t see it coming and act accordingly?


66 posted on 01/02/2013 5:07:45 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: rustyboots
Dr. Suzanna Hupp Testimony (Better Quality) to Congress on the Second Amendment

The last few seconds are priceless!

67 posted on 01/02/2013 5:08:31 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Osage Orange

I own legal gun(s) but I will own illegal guns if it comes to it.


68 posted on 01/02/2013 5:08:41 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: mnehring

Register what?

eff em!

by the time they start doing credit card snoops, the masses will have acted accordingly and they and their toys won’t be at home.


69 posted on 01/02/2013 5:11:32 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: rustyboots

If you don’t turn in your guns, they will put you on the “No Fly List” and the “No Banking List”.


70 posted on 01/02/2013 5:12:10 PM PST by CJinVA
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To: djf

Neighbors know ZIP!

Gov’t knows ZIP!

What’s next?


71 posted on 01/02/2013 5:13:31 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: CJinVA

“they will put you on the “No Fly List” and the “No Banking List”.”

“they” have names and addresses.


72 posted on 01/02/2013 5:14:02 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: rustyboots

They will employ the same slime time media blitz that they have been using for the past 5 yrs.....continue to legislate from the bench, diss the Constitution with executive order and use taxes to bleed this country into oblivion.

Oh, you want a gun, just pay this $200 a year tax (per firearm) and keep up with your national registration requirements. Oh, you want bullets too, well, there will be a sliding tax rate based on quantity and time period. After all, who needs more than 20 rounds, the revolver only holds 6 to 8 anyway.

I know Democrat firearm owners who voted for the Marxist regime and they are wiggin out. They drank the Kool-aid and fully expected free stuff, not losing their firearms and paying more taxes.....suckers got suckered. Go figure.


73 posted on 01/02/2013 5:15:29 PM PST by Mobilemitter (We must learn to fin >-)> for ourselves.........)
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To: Drew68

Those Mini-14s will be gone by the weekend. Even at double the price, it is only 10 years worth of inflation. I didn’t quit buying gasoline cause I remember buying it for $0.25 A GALLON. I need the gas today and am willing to pay today’s price. You obviously do not need the Mini today, and that is fine.


74 posted on 01/02/2013 5:16:35 PM PST by wrench (I want my country back)
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To: Matthew10

Thanks for the link.

Although I still debate libtards on gun issues - I no longer talk about guns that I may or may not own. I rarely go to the range anymore. Not since I sold my firearms.

Keeping an ever-lower profile. Not that they would monitor Freerepublic. Not yet anyways....


75 posted on 01/02/2013 5:19:59 PM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Matthew10

Thanks for the link.

Although I still debate libtards on gun issues - I no longer talk about guns that I may or may not own. I rarely go to the range anymore. Not since I sold my firearms.

Keeping an ever-lower profile. Not that they would monitor Freerepublic. Not yet anyways....


76 posted on 01/02/2013 5:21:56 PM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: babygene
Ruby Ridge didn’t go so well for the Feds... It would go worse today with instant communications and all.

That assumes the Feds don't shut down the Internet and other means of communication first. Don't assume your cell phone will continue to work if the Feds want to isolate you.

77 posted on 01/02/2013 5:22:21 PM PST by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: APatientMan

Measured breaths and a still spirit.

Don’t want to but I will treat them the same as any man breaking into my home and he can only intend on causing me great injury or killing someone I love.

My dogs are just as important to me as my brother.


78 posted on 01/02/2013 5:22:21 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: rustyboots

My thoughts:

Waco was successful because we had a democrat governor, and LE had the masses believing that children were being harmed. I don’t think that will happen the next time. There are still enough Texans around that remember Waco, and we aren’t going to forget it. Also, remember the anti-govt movement in the northern states several years ago? The govt got away with quelling that because they convinced the rest of us that they were a bunch of dangerous nuts.

I can see house to house confiscation happening in the big cities (Houston, Austin, etc.) but I can’t see it happening out here in the boonies where I live. It would just be too dangerous for them. Not enough LE, and too many of us with trees to hide behind and shoot from, and we all have cell phones. And, all of us have multiple guns, with a good share of them being those “mean looking” guns. Also, most of us own a good share of guns that shoot military calibers. The plan being, that after it starts, (if it starts) we are going to be using captured ammo, and playing on the houses’ money.

Not to brag, but a lot of us hayseeds have nothing to do sometimes but shoot guns to pass the time. It’s like stirring coffee with a spoon. We don’t have to think about what we are doing. We do it all the time. After all, we don’t climb those trees after those persimmons - too easy to fall and kill yourself.

I have a big parcel of property, as do a lot of us, with many places to hide, and I’ve been here 25 years. I’ve shot enough deer and other targets on my place, that I know the distances from every fence post to every stump, to every treeline and fence line. I wouldn’t need a spotter to “range me.” I’ve got you cued up the minute you cross my fence in any direction.

I’ve made it a point to flat out ask local state, county, and city LE what they are going to do if gun control/confiscation happens. Their replies range from: “..that’s a federal law - see any feds around?” to: “..guns? What guns?” This is refreshing to hear, and I hope they still have this attitude if it happens.

I don’t think they could make this happen without the military. There are a lot of Texans and other southerners in the military, and we have many awfully big military installations in this state. I don’t see home-grown boys firing on their own people. I see a great many deserters if this happens.


79 posted on 01/02/2013 5:28:28 PM PST by eastexsteve
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To: JoeFromSidney

To isolate anyone, they have to shut the entire system down. Drug dealers and terrorists figured it out a long time ago.

No cell and internet, commerce and jobs shut down. Wanna bet how long before all major highways are shut down? It is impossible to monitor every mile of roadway in the country, and the JIT system is totally screwed with any transportation dysfunction.


80 posted on 01/02/2013 5:29:05 PM PST by wrench (I want my country back)
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To: G Larry

“Credit Card checks for gun releated purchases?”

Mastercard, et al, would spread their legs for the feral gov’t in a new york bloomberg minute.

I needed a copy of my statement from 2008 earlier last year. It was still there, and it was gun related.


81 posted on 01/02/2013 5:30:22 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: rustyboots

I have no idea how it would start. I do, however, know how it will end.


82 posted on 01/02/2013 5:30:56 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: rustyboots

Cocaine and weed is contraband in this country, does ANYONE believe it isn’t available in every city and town? All those drug laws sure have shut down drug use, drug trade, and drug ownership.


83 posted on 01/02/2013 5:44:22 PM PST by wrench (I want my country back)
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To: rustyboots

There isn t going to be confiscation. Stop letting idiots make you afraid. Grow a pair. All the punk conservatiues trying to make us afraid. Guess what I don’t fear this gov’t or anything else.


84 posted on 01/02/2013 6:03:45 PM PST by Carry me back
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To: Michael Barnes
Then it would be time to start counting coup, in a medieval way.
85 posted on 01/02/2013 6:05:13 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: rustyboots
The first step will be Ubama throwing the Internet off-switch.

When that happens, you'll know it's because the pogrom has begun.

86 posted on 01/02/2013 6:06:14 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("More law, less justice." --Cicero)
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To: Carry me back

A couple of comments in reply:
1. I have had a functional pair for a long time(and still do). And a functional mind to go with them.
2. This thread was started as a discussion into a
possibility, not a certain fact. Those that deny the
possibility of anything seldom contribute anything
worthwhile to any discussion.
Have nice evening.


87 posted on 01/02/2013 6:14:34 PM PST by rustyboots
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To: Psalm 73

“Not that they would monitor Freerepublic.”

“They” already monitor Free Republic. Several years ago a poster jokingly make a comment about the president. A few hours later the Secret Service was knocking on his door because his post was a ‘preceived threat’ to the president. This was while Bush was still in the White House.


88 posted on 01/02/2013 6:16:32 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: rustyboots

It started already with permits.


89 posted on 01/02/2013 6:17:00 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: rustyboots

Question for everyone, thoughtful responses, please:

Since the main issue here seems to be about how many gun owners will or will not defy government gun confiscation, then

“How important to this issue is the state in you happen to live?”

Hint: I’m glad I don’t live in Illinois or New York.


90 posted on 01/02/2013 6:21:55 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: elcid1970

Texans won’t tolerate confiscation. Rest assured.


91 posted on 01/02/2013 6:31:41 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: elcid1970

I’m not sure I understand your question. I don’t think confiscation would happen in Texas, as there is no “gun permit” here in Texas (except for fully auto, etc.) But, on the other hand, Texas would be one of the hardest states to pull off confiscation. As such, they might try to do Texas first just to see if it would work in the other 49.


92 posted on 01/02/2013 6:31:57 PM PST by eastexsteve
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To: rustyboots

I suggest everyone take a deep breath relax and read Unintended Consequences by John Ross. Its a fictional look at overcoming tyranny, but it shows how one could fight back.


93 posted on 01/02/2013 6:45:06 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: Born to Conserve

They can’t do it anyway. False tips leading them to vacated premises loaded with explosives, ambushes, vehicles firebombed, etc etc.. if the left starts this, there will be hell to pay.


94 posted on 01/02/2013 6:48:36 PM PST by Quickgun (I came here screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: rustyboots

There will be difficulties:

- A NICS check doesn’t speak to the gun purchased, nor how many. Those are in the records the BATF requires gun shops to keep. Some are electronic, but many are handwritten or typed and spread across myriad sellers. Easy to look at records of say Walmart, but not Joe’s Pawn Shop.

- there are millions of guns purchased privately or pre-NICS that can’t be tracked.

- There will be numerous deceased, moved, and of course the old ‘aww man, I got rid of those a couple of years back’. They will HAVE to go door-to-door to verify those guns are gone, and guns can be hidden easily off site.

- checking records and going door-to-door will require a huge amount of manpower and will not be low profile. People will know they’re coming and do things to destroy/hide/move ahead of time, including gun sales records.

- there will be court challenges. Putting the law out there to get slapped down will make it even harder to pass one the next time.


95 posted on 01/02/2013 6:50:23 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: rustyboots

Obama, Finestein, and the rest of the NeoCommunists have no expectation that gun owners will actually turn in their guns. They intend to make examples of a chosen few to intimidate and terrorize the rest into obedience and silence. Most legit gun owners tend to be conservative, and actually support the Constitution. Step out of line, speak up publicly, support the wrong candidates, defend yourself against one of their criminals — and gun owners will be investigated, pronounced worse than Hitler in the govt media, dispossessed, imprisoned, or simply murdered. They desire to gradually disarm the populace, destroy private savings and property, and establish arbitrary rule.

What sort of person wants Stalinism? We all know, but hate to admit it.


96 posted on 01/02/2013 6:50:55 PM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: Matthew10

Then there are all those “illegal” weapons out there; they can be recruited into the resistance, strange bedfellows.


97 posted on 01/02/2013 6:53:03 PM PST by JOPO (Hank)
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To: Matthew10

You have posted what I see as happening.


98 posted on 01/02/2013 6:55:07 PM PST by Quickgun (I came here screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: Psalm 73
That's what the lawyers call a "chilling effect" on the exercise of Constitutional rights; screw 'em. I'll be going to the range in a few days to exercise my God given right to keep and bear arms. Damn the Congress. The bastards may have the power to disarm the citizens, but they certainly do not have the authority. If the Repubos roll over for a confiscation, even in light of the Heller and MacDonald USSC decisions, the Constituion is dissolved and we are no longer bound to obey any laws.
99 posted on 01/02/2013 6:57:03 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: camle

I think in Texas, they will have to deal with the State of Texas if they try anything against any citizen in Texas. We’ve got good history on exactly this. Damn little difference if its a pompus messkin or a tyrannical kenyan.


100 posted on 01/02/2013 6:59:01 PM PST by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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