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White House petitioned to label Catholic Church a 'hate group'
cna ^ | January 4, 2013 | Michelle Bauman

Posted on 01/04/2013 6:36:59 AM PST by NYer

The White House. Credit: Trevor McGoldrick (CC BY-NC 2.0).

Washington D.C., Jan 4, 2013 / 04:09 am (CNA/EWTN News).- An online petition asking the White House to designate the Catholic Church as a “hate group” for its views on marriage is drawing criticism for generating unjust animosity.

The petition reveals an “underlying agenda,” which is not simply to prevent violent crimes, but to “stigmatize any disapproval of homosexuality at all and essentially to silence us,” said Peter Sprigg, senior fellow for policy studies at the Family Research Council in Washington, D.C.

He explained to CNA on Jan. 3 that applying the “hate group” label to organizations that are morally opposed to redefining marriage is simply “name-calling designed to cut us out of the public debate.”

Initiated on Christmas Day, a petition on the White House website had collected 1,640 signatures by Jan. 3.

The petition – which is aiming for 25,000 signatures by Jan. 24 – argued that Pope Benedict XVI’s 2012 Christmas address to the College of Cardinals “demeaned and belittled homosexual people around the world.”

“Using hateful language and discriminatory remarks, the Pope painted a portrait in which gay people are second-class global citizens,” it charged.

“Pope Benedict said that gay people starting families are threatening to society, and that gay parents objectify and take away the dignity of children,” the petition said. “The Pope also implied that gay families are sub-human, as they are not dignified in the eyes of God.”

It called for the Obama administration to recognize the Catholic Church as a hate group, as defined by the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Anti-Defamation League.

However, Sprigg argued that the petition is “distorting” the Pope’s words, which do not actually include hateful or discriminatory language.

In his address to the cardinals, the Pope did not directly reference “gay marriage” or “homosexuality” at all. Rather, he defended the Church’s understanding of sexuality and “the true structure of the family, made up of father, mother, and child.”

The Holy Father refuted the modern notion of sex as “a social role that we choose for ourselves,” rather than “a given element of nature” and “bodily identity, that serves as a defining element of the human being.”

The complementarity of male and female is part of “the essence of the human creature” and is foundational to the nature of the human being and the family, the pontiff explained.

Sprigg argued that the petition is misleading and “clearly has political purpose.”

“The federal government does not designate hate groups. It prosecutes hate crimes,” he observed, explaining that a clear distinction must be made between moral opposition to homosexual acts and violent crimes against homosexual individuals.

Such labeling can also be dangerous, Sprigg said. Ironically, the hate group label can actually create hatred toward the group being designated, he explained.

He pointed to an incident last August in which a 28-year-old Virginia man entered the Family Research Council headquarters, made a comment about disliking the group’s politics and then opened fire, shooting a security guard before being disarmed.

Family Research Council had previously been labeled a “hate group” by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, said at the time that such reckless labeling may have led the gunman to feel justified in carrying out the shooting.

Sprigg reiterated this idea, highlighting the importance of allowing people to express their differing views peacefully in a democracy.

Suggesting that organizations such as the Catholic Church and the Family Research Council are hateful simply because of their views on human sexuality promotes “a dangerous misconception,” he said.


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KEYWORDS: catholic; hate; homosexual; homosexualagenda

1 posted on 01/04/2013 6:37:12 AM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 01/04/2013 6:37:58 AM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: NYer
John 15:18.

Matthew 5:11.

3 posted on 01/04/2013 6:40:38 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake
Amen

Acts 5:40-42

4 posted on 01/04/2013 6:51:36 AM PST by frogjerk (Obama Claus is coming to town!)
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To: NYer

This crossed my mind 30 years ago when I first heard the term ‘homophobia’ in college. It is kind of obvious. If embracing sodomy is normal and not embracing sodomy is hateful, then guys like the Pope & Billy Graham become haters and leaders of hate groups. There is really no way around this. Embrace sodomy or embrace Christianity or do neither. You cannot embrace sodomy and Christianity...they are mutually exclusive.


5 posted on 01/04/2013 6:54:27 AM PST by MSF BU (n)
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To: NYer

The headline I want to see: “Pope declares Barack 0bama an enemy of God.”


6 posted on 01/04/2013 6:55:24 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: frogjerk

Proverbs 18:2


7 posted on 01/04/2013 6:55:52 AM PST by freedumb2003 (MOLON LABE)
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To: reg45

“The headline I want to see: “Pope declares Barack 0bama an enemy of God.”

Do you get the feeling that this may be the ONLY petition at the wh “transparency” site that gets a comment from the king and then will have an executive order declaring it so?


8 posted on 01/04/2013 6:59:34 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: NYer
White House petitioned to label Catholic Church a 'hate group'

Can't wait for the White House petition to label the Muslim Religion a 'hate group' since moose-lims specifically hate homosexuals and are centuries behind in women's rights.

9 posted on 01/04/2013 7:03:21 AM PST by laweeks
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To: NYer

Well we can safely say that adoptions from the third world to nice catholic ladies will skyrocket in numbers. Face it folks the libs know how to abuse people.


10 posted on 01/04/2013 7:04:24 AM PST by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: NYer

Well they do hate sin. I guess the communists are right about that.


11 posted on 01/04/2013 7:05:48 AM PST by Truth2012
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To: NYer

Gee, I guess that some people don’t like the fact that the Church hates evil.

“Let those who love the LORD hate evil, for he guards the lives of his faithful ones and delivers them from the hand of the wicked.” Psalms

“Let love be genuine; hate what is evil, hold fast to what is good” Romans 12:9


12 posted on 01/04/2013 7:07:40 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: NYer
"Southern Poverty Law Center."

Sounds like a hate group.

Just sayin'..........

13 posted on 01/04/2013 7:13:18 AM PST by hummingbird (Support Hummingbird Migration!)
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To: laweeks
"Can't wait for the White House petition to label the Muslim Religion a 'hate group' since moose-lims specifically hate homosexuals and are centuries behind in women's rights."

No kidding...crickets......

14 posted on 01/04/2013 7:18:08 AM PST by hummingbird (Support Hummingbird Migration!)
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To: laweeks

Homosexuality and pedophilia are not only tolerated but widely practiced in Muslim societies. What meets with disapproval is effeminate adult men who enter into relationships with others of their type. The dancing boys (who are essentially also boy prostitutes) of Afghanistan are fine, but they wouldn’t permit a dancing man, let’s say. However, actual prosecution of these people is usually a politically motivated procedure, meant to enforce the power of the imams or their henchmen, since adult effeminate gays are regarded as weak and disposable and are an easy target.

With Muslim males, anything they want to put their private parts into is fine in practice: another man, an animal (Ayatollah Khomenei’s first published writing was a fatwa announcing that it was okay for men to have sex with chickens but not to eat the chicken afterwards), and occasionally even a woman, whether she’s a foreign slave, one of his own stable or somebody with whom he has contracted the fifteen-minute “marriage” permitted under Islam. In many Muslim rural areas, a boy’s first sexual experience is actually when he is raped by his father at the age of 10 or so.

So I don’t think you’re going to hear any complaints about Muslims.


15 posted on 01/04/2013 7:19:10 AM PST by livius
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To: NYer

If it wasn’t for so many Catholics voting for Obama he would never have been elected in the first place.


16 posted on 01/04/2013 7:20:43 AM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: NYer

Not a peep about this from the Mainline Socialist Media which (is what that group should be refered to as)and desperately needs a trashing. The idea that this eminates from a tax supported agency in the White House should leave no doubt in anyones mind the administration is at war with Christianity particularly the Catholics.


17 posted on 01/04/2013 7:20:59 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("A voice crying in the wilderness make streight for the way of the Lord")
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To: NYer
I actually agree. The true Christian Church should be known as a hate group, since we are told by God to hate profusely: sin, the world, mother and father (subordinated love), Satan's minions, ourselves.

Hating isn't the issue, the object(s) of the hatred is. The Left hates rabidly, but are not called out on it because they hate the politically correct objects.

18 posted on 01/04/2013 7:22:09 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: livius
Homosexuality and pedophilia are not only tolerated but widely practiced in Muslim societies. What meets with disapproval is effeminate adult men who enter into relationships with others of their type. The dancing boys (who are essentially also boy prostitutes) of Afghanistan are fine, but they wouldn’t permit a dancing man, let’s say.

However, actual prosecution of these people is usually a politically motivated procedure, meant to enforce the power of the imams or their henchmen, since adult effeminate gays are regarded as weak and disposable and are an easy target.

With Muslim males, anything they want to put their private parts into is fine in practice: another man, an animal (Ayatollah Khomenei’s first published writing was a fatwa announcing that it was okay for men to have sex with chickens but not to eat the chicken afterwards), and occasionally even a woman, whether she’s a foreign slave, one of his own stable or somebody with whom he has contracted the fifteen-minute “marriage” permitted under Islam.

In many Muslim rural areas, a boy’s first sexual experience is actually when he is raped by his father at the age of 10 or so.

Gee, I wonder what Karin Johnson (Whoopie Goldberg) of "I killed six of my children in abortions" would have to say about this.

19 posted on 01/04/2013 7:25:10 AM PST by laweeks
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To: NYer

If it’s anyone thats doing the hating is the white house


20 posted on 01/04/2013 7:28:15 AM PST by angelcindy ("If you follow the crowd ,you get no further than the crowd!")
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To: freeangel

I suspect that this is ultimately the way he will attack the Catholic Church (and, in passing, any orthodox Christian church). What Obama would really like to do is to force a schism so that there will be a “Patriotic Catholic Church” that will do everything progressives want: “marry” gays, “ordain” women, support abortion, etc.

He suspects, probably correctly, that this would be the larger segment of the schism, and that the small remnant faithful to Rome would be powerless and without support. In addition, the Patriotic Church would get all the property and resources, and the members of the Roman remnant would probably be deprived even of their civil rights. For the Church, it would be like facing Henry VIII all over again, or perhaps a combination of Henry VIII and Mao.


21 posted on 01/04/2013 7:28:30 AM PST by livius
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To: laweeks

Probably nothing. Heck, they’d even let her have an abortion - abortion is regarded as a good thing for non-Muslims, since it reduces the number of infidels. It’s strictly forbidden for Muslim women, of course, but then, so is speaking in public, showing their faces, etc.


22 posted on 01/04/2013 7:32:22 AM PST by livius
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To: PatriotGirl827

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23 posted on 01/04/2013 7:33:00 AM PST by PatriotGirl827 (O Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee)
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To: PatriotGirl827

Enter “Knights of Columbus Hate Group” into a search engine and watch what comes up just from 2012 alone. There is a new Lesbian Senator who said she is out to get us. As is one of Obama’s Czars.


24 posted on 01/04/2013 7:42:47 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: livius

Georgetown will be ground zero for the “Patriotic Catholic Church”.


25 posted on 01/04/2013 7:48:40 AM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: NYer

Ha I knew it was a hate group /bad sarc


26 posted on 01/04/2013 7:52:05 AM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, Romans 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: NYer
This is what comes from accepting a non-Theistic basis for morality. Theonomic positivism would make it impossible to declare opposition to homosexuality "immoral."

Even "natural law" paves the way for non-Theistic moral standards.

27 posted on 01/04/2013 7:54:55 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: NYer

so not the FOIA has a list of homosexuals?

Why not petition to have the Democrat Party declared a hate gourp and subject them to FBI investigation?


28 posted on 01/04/2013 7:55:36 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: hummingbird

....Or the ACLU even. Just saying.


29 posted on 01/04/2013 7:56:08 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: NYer

The attacking has begun.


30 posted on 01/04/2013 7:57:54 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: reagandemocrat

No doubt about it.


31 posted on 01/04/2013 7:58:37 AM PST by livius
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To: massgopguy

Cool! I’m a member of a hate group within a hate group!


32 posted on 01/04/2013 8:00:27 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NYer

Let’s just have a war and get it over with.


33 posted on 01/04/2013 8:12:57 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: NYer

The one White House Petition I would sign would be a Petition demanding that anyone who signs a White House Petition, debates a White House Petition, or is offended by someone elses White House Petition be executed.

ALL the Petitions from any source are meaningless, worthless, and irrelevant. All they do is give stupid people the illusion that they are doing something, which I think was the Administration’s intent when they set the whole thing up.


34 posted on 01/04/2013 8:15:13 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: NYer

Okay, most the local readers here know where I stand on the errant theology of the RCC, but this is utterly ridiculous. The RCC is not a hate group and deserves to be left alone (except when it comes to doctrine).


35 posted on 01/04/2013 9:14:52 AM PST by Dutchboy88
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Hey, in 20 years, we’ll have the pedos and the bestiality people and the necrophiliacs all getting “married” to the object of their lusts and there will be no disapproval, citizen.


36 posted on 01/04/2013 10:25:23 AM PST by jjm2111
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To: NYer

So the Pope adheres to the teachings of the Catholic Church.

Who’d-a thunk it.


37 posted on 01/04/2013 3:32:55 PM PST by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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Sadly, I know some Catholics who might be willing to sign this petition. They're BIG into 'social justice', especially for homosexuals, and they're pushing for homosexual marriage. They don't like what the Pope said about homosexual marriage in his New Year's speech, and they're hoping to convince other Catholics to turn against the official teaching of the Church.

I've had a running 'battle' on the Facebook page of one of the women from our parish for the past couple of months, but frankly, I'm not going to bother, anymore. Her oldest son had considered becoming a priest. I sure hope he decides against it; we don't need anymore 'progressive' priests. We're already dealing with the mess they've made for the past 40 years. I'm not going to change her mind, and most of her other FB friends already share her opinion, and I don't think I'm gonna change their minds either. They all love 'fairness' more than the teachings of the Church, and they firmly believe the Church isn't following Jesus's teachings, because he never said anything specifically against homosexuality, or abortion, for that matter, so why should the Church teach against either of those issues. Oh, and Jesus didn't like weapons, which is why they think all guns should be banned.

Yeah, it has gotten THAT silly.

38 posted on 01/04/2013 6:25:50 PM PST by SuziQ
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