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Brrr! China’s coldest winter in decades at new low
Associated Press ^ | Jan. 5, 2013 7:52 AM EST

Posted on 01/05/2013 7:46:49 AM PST by Olog-hai

China is experiencing unusual chills this winter with its national average temperature hitting the lowest in 28 years, and snow and ice have closed highways, canceled flights, stranded tourists and knocked out power in several provinces.

China Meteorological Administration on Friday said the national average was −3.8°C (25°F) since late November, the coldest in nearly three decades. The average temperature in northeast China dipped to −15.3°C (4.5°F), the coldest in 43 years, and dropped to a 42-year low of −7.4°C (18.7°F) in northern China. …

The state-run English-language China Daily reported Friday that about 1,000 ships were stuck in ice in Laizhou Bay in eastern China’s Bohai Sea. …

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: climatechangehoax; coldwinter; globalcooling; globalwarminghoax; redchina

1 posted on 01/05/2013 7:47:05 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Paging Al Gore!!!!!!!


2 posted on 01/05/2013 7:48:22 AM PST by whitedog57
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To: whitedog57

He’s too busy selling Current TV to oil-funded Al Jazeera.


3 posted on 01/05/2013 7:49:49 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Yup.

The global warming nuts on the east coast who are experiencing above normal temperatures this year need to understand that China, Russia, India, Canada and Alaska are all experiencing below normal temperatures.

4 posted on 01/05/2013 7:52:23 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Olog-hai
Hmmm....let me think this through. We're told that carbon emissions create "global warming," therefore, we should cut back on production, use of fuel, etc. America and other countries are told to cut down, and they comply, but a country like China thumbs it's at these policies, and not held to the Kyoto Accord, yet would think that because they don't, that "global warming" would get out of hand and all Chinese would be standing around with fans and sweaty wife-beater t-shirts.

Yet.... hmm... could it be possible that... well... ENVIRO-NUTS ARE WRONG!!!!

Of course, as I'm reminded that when the language doesn't work anymore, you change the terminology. "Climate Change." Hah. I'm sure China can point to many other times in their past where they've had some bad winters, like anywhere else in the northern hemisphere.
5 posted on 01/05/2013 7:56:23 AM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: Olog-hai

Global warming is definitely happening. Weather patterns are definitely changing. The only debate concerns the cause. I, like everyone else, am not sure why.

That it is currently cold in China is anecdotal information so it is worthless as far as constructing a meaningful theory.

I doubt we are causing it, but it is a possibility. Not enough definitive evidence yet.

One thing is certain. We are destroying the water on the planet. This is indisputable across all scientists. That is my bigger concern.


6 posted on 01/05/2013 8:06:02 AM PST by sakic
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To: sakic

Global warming ain’t happening. You know what a single degree (in Celsius) of alleged “average warming” across the entire globe, measured with different types of instrument with even more differing types of calibration, means? Yup, means nothing.


7 posted on 01/05/2013 8:08:30 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: sakic

How are we destroying the water? That just sounds like the next scare tactic of the enviro-nazis, now that they realize we’re on to the global warming scam.


8 posted on 01/05/2013 8:08:57 AM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: sakic

We are destroying the water on the planet......How? Water is Hydrogen, and oxygen. Combined. The water you drank yesterday was the water OOG drank (and pissed out two millions years ago). Yes, there are sediments, even medicines or radiation in it, but once it evaporates and comes down as water, again and again how are WE destroying it? How do you destroy gasses ?


9 posted on 01/05/2013 8:16:37 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Olog-hai

Serves them right for producing all that carbon.


10 posted on 01/05/2013 8:20:51 AM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: Twotone

Sounds like the person you are replying to never heard of the first law of thermodynamics.


11 posted on 01/05/2013 8:21:08 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

My mother made a similar remark to me some months ago. I thought then that it sounded like another ginned up scare tactic, & still do. I know that we’re tapping reservoirs & possibly over-using them, but we have ways of making potable water out of sea water. Not likely we’re going to run out of that anytime soon.


12 posted on 01/05/2013 8:32:37 AM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Olog-hai
"south-moving polar cold fronts caused by global warming"

I like that. Yes, in the entire history of the planet going back billions of years, cold fronts have never been caused by normal climatic events. Sure. (snicker)

13 posted on 01/05/2013 8:34:34 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Olog-hai
China is experiencing unusual chills this winter with its national average temperature hitting the lowest in 28 years

Any Green cultist will tell you China's unusual chills are just more proof of global warming. When you've invented a cult, facts don't matter - anything that happens is going to be portrayed as proof that your doomsday predictions are justified. If there's a hurricane it's because of global warming. If it's unusually cold in much of the world it's because of global warming. If it gets hot in summer, well of course that's because of global warming.

Some Green cultists realize that their scare-term "global warming" is getting them laughed at when they try to associate it with freezing temperatures or the usual hurricane season, so they want to change the scare words to something more vague like "man-made climate change". The benefits of this are that it can more properly be applied to any damn thing that is worth remarking about. The drawback is that such nonsense is making too many people realize how ridiculous and irrelevant the entire climate change cult is.
14 posted on 01/05/2013 8:38:41 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Olog-hai
In related but unreported news, it has now been 2630 days since the last major (greater than or equal to Force 3) hurricane has made landfall in the US mainland. This shatters the old record of 2231 days set 19 Oct 1906.

This record breaking calm period is, of course, due to "Global Warming". Then again, when the next major hurricane hits, that too will be due to "Global Warming".

15 posted on 01/05/2013 8:49:21 AM PST by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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To: Olog-hai
Two weeks ago:

Down to -50C: Russians freeze to death as strongest-in-decades winter hits

16 posted on 01/05/2013 8:52:45 AM PST by null and void (The world is full of Maple Streets.)
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To: sakic
We are destroying the water on the planet. This is indisputable across all scientists.

There is, a CRAP LOAD of water on this planet. We may be causing localized pollution and dis-location issues (which, do indeed worry me)... but, we're a LONG way from destroying the water on the planet.

Oh... and, there is NOTHING that is "indiputable across all scientist". :-)

17 posted on 01/05/2013 8:52:53 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: sakic
Global warming is definitely happening.

No significant warming since 1996 according to Phil Jones ( a leading warmist) at the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia. The Satellite readings, per University of Alabama are also showing no increase in tempreature since 1996 - a finding which contradicts all the warmists computer models.

18 posted on 01/05/2013 9:30:08 AM PST by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: Safetgiver

Lots of toxins don’t evaporate. PCBs do not evaparote. You are not drinking the same water that used to be. Find me one scientist who believes we are not damaging the drinking water. Find me one who says that mercury levels are rising in fish.


19 posted on 01/05/2013 10:07:00 AM PST by sakic
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To: FreeReign
China ? Heck two nights ago a section of Interstate I-20 in West Texas was closed due to brief blizzard conditions. Do not believe me ? Check the map.


20 posted on 01/05/2013 10:24:33 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
When you've invented a cult, facts don't matter - anything that happens is going to be portrayed as proof that your doomsday predictions are justified.

While on the subject of cult identification, it might be time to properly label Socialists and Communists as cultists. They ignore the facts from history and the present era, that demonstrate and prove socialism and communism are not productive ways to run an economy. Heck, even Putin is trying to tell them they are wrong. And they just keep ignoring all advice and just keep heading straight for the cliff.

21 posted on 01/05/2013 10:34:04 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Olog-hai; TigerLikesRooster

I have been trying not to think about the poor souls in places like North Korea where the serfs and slaves have no electricity and probably won’t have any trees soon.


22 posted on 01/05/2013 10:45:12 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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Saw the AP tag, so was patiently reading and waiting for it...at the end of the article I was not disappointed...

“The national meteorological administration said China is seeing dropping temperatures partly because of south-moving polar cold fronts, caused by melting polar ice from global warming.”


23 posted on 01/05/2013 11:03:09 AM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: sakic
Have you ever looked at a globe?

70% of the planet is covered in water, much of it three miles deep.

You sound like a lunatic when you say we are running out of water. If anything, we should be more concerned about running out of land. However, nearly half the landmasses on this planet are still uninhabited - pure wilderness. And 80% of the other 50% is sparsely populated. If all the available land on Earth was divided among the current living population, we'd each have nearly six acres of land all to ourselves.

I'll take my six acres in Hawaii please.

24 posted on 01/05/2013 12:08:39 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

By living we are always “destroying” something...even our selves. However, the comment “we are destroying ALL the water” takes the cake as one of the most lame-brained things I have read today. It is a weekend. Maybe mental hospitals allow internet access on weekends.


25 posted on 01/05/2013 12:32:46 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: SamAdams76

Never seen a globe. What is that?

We are decreasing the amount of clean drinking water and clean ocean water. This is indisputable. Do you dispute my contentions about PCBs and mercury?

I have never understood how as conservatives we cannot be concerned about the quality of our natural resources. How did that become the property of loony liberals?

This is not about business vs. enviro-nuts. This is about future generations having access to clean air and water. We have already shown that it is possible to accomplish these goals. Years ago, Denver was the pig sty of America. When I had business or pleasure to attend to there I practically needed a gas mask to breathe. Now they have done a great job of cleaning up that place. That has been to the benefit of business and the residents. Good business is dependent on a healthy populace, except for perhaps the pharmaceutical industry.


26 posted on 01/05/2013 4:56:48 PM PST by sakic
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