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How can a Convicted Felon be writing gun laws? (Vanity)
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Posted on 01/06/2013 7:25:52 AM PST by Red in Blue PA

Serious question. How can a convicted felon, who cannot even walk into a gun store to purchase a gun, be allowed to WRITE gun legislation? There is something seriously wrong with this country when this is allowed. This rule needs to be changed. This pisses me off more than I can say. We need to make it clear to those in power that not only is an AWB out of the question, but that things like this need to change. Common sense would dictate that if you cannot buy a gun you cannot have a part in writing gun laws!

H.R.34 Latest Title: To provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers of certain firearms and for a record of sale system for those firearms, and for other purposes.

(Excerpt) Read more at thomas.loc.gov ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: awb; banglist; bobbylrush; bobbyrush; guncontrol; obama; secondamendment

1 posted on 01/06/2013 7:26:09 AM PST by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

No politician should be rewriting gun laws that are already enshrined in the constitution.

As far as felons are concerned, if they’re too dangerous to own a gun they shouldn’t be walking free. In other words, I don’t have any issues with felons owning guns if they’re safe enough to be free.


2 posted on 01/06/2013 7:30:02 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The same way tax cheats get to write tax laws.


3 posted on 01/06/2013 7:31:36 AM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Fair is a place you go to eat cotton candy and step in monkey poop)
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To: cripplecreek

We need to redefine who is a prohibited person. People who commit violent or serious crimes against other citizens should top the list. I don’t worry about the guy who ran afoul of EPA regulations and ended up with a felony or the embezeler. I worry about rapists, strong arm robbers, murderers and the like.

After redefining prohibited persons, we punish them more harshly for being in posession.


4 posted on 01/06/2013 7:39:41 AM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Maybe a better question should be, how can a convicted felon be a congressman? We have moved beyond stupid in this country, I’m afraid.


5 posted on 01/06/2013 7:39:46 AM PST by GnL
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To: Red in Blue PA

The right to bear arms is for when tax cheats write tax laws and felons write gun laws while illegal presidents act like kings and congress is looting the treasury.

Its all over but the justice, that always comes in the end.


6 posted on 01/06/2013 7:40:44 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

May I suggest a change in your post that might help you sell your argument?

You don’t name the felon or his crime or his postion in the law writing process. Not even in the link is this part of your argument given.

As a “serious question” your post is an epic fail


7 posted on 01/06/2013 7:43:12 AM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: umgud
I worry about rapists, strong arm robbers, murderers and the like.

Exactly the type of people who should be in prison. Another result of liberal compassion unleashing dangerous animals on the citizenry.

Kind of like the guy who killed the firemen on Christmas. The man beat his grandmother to death with a hammer and should have been buried under the prison.
8 posted on 01/06/2013 7:44:45 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: wildbill

Bobby Rush. There is a link to his bill in the OP.


9 posted on 01/06/2013 7:45:26 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Good point.
What does it say for ALL of us, when a convicted felon can’t (supposedly) vote or own a weapon BUT can be an elected official making policies and laws regarding the things it is illegal for him to partake in?


10 posted on 01/06/2013 7:46:12 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: Red in Blue PA

Hey - it makes perfect sense for a Dim felon who can’t own a gun to write the laws - if he can’t have one, why should we have them? At least that’s my theory about why he would be concocting the law; make it so he and his bretheren have less to worry about when they come for you.....Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do - whatcha ya gonna do when they come for you?


11 posted on 01/06/2013 7:46:27 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

To make the argument you pose, you have to name the guy and his offense and his position. I still don’t know who the hell Bobby Rush is or what he did.

Don’t make your audience wait for information or have to search it out on their own.


12 posted on 01/06/2013 7:52:16 AM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

This article is about Bobby Rush, the dipstick who got up on the House floor and pulled up a hoodie over his head in violation of House Rules.

Rush is also a former member of the Black Panthers and is probably is still a member . He was once convicted of illegal possession of firearms which lost him his own right to own firearms, This former Panther and criminal has proposed a bill to require licensing of all handguns and semiautomatic firearms (H.R. 45). Although he managed to receive an honorable discharge from the Armed Forces, his service record includes an incident of Absent Without Leave (AWOL). Bobby Rush is therefore just another common criminal and jailbird who resents the fact that law-abiding people can own the means with which to protect themselves from terroristic violence.

Takes a lot of Chutzpah to believe he is qualified to vote on my owning a firearm.Bobby Rush is a Democratic Member of Congress who represents the First District of Illinois, which includes roughly half of Chicago’s South Side and the national headquarters of the Nation of Islam led by the racial demagogue Louis Farrakhan. Nearly two-thirds of the residents of this district are African-American .Killings are rampant there, in spite of restrictive gun laws.

How did this man get elected to Congress?
The answer is written above. 2/3rds.of the residents of his district are African-Americans.


13 posted on 01/06/2013 7:53:00 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Red in Blue PA

Why do voters elect a convicted felon?


14 posted on 01/06/2013 7:54:39 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: wildbill

Gun owners know who Bobby Rush did and his past. If you don’t, then click on the link I posted, and Google his name.


15 posted on 01/06/2013 7:57:54 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Hoodie-Wearing Gunmen Kill 1, Wound 5 in Bobby Rush's Chicago District

by Dan Riehl 30 Mar 2012 Former Black Panther Rep. Bobby Rush (D-IL) made quite a fuss when he donned a "hoodie" during a speech in the U.S. House of Representatives until he was escorted out. At the time, former Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) "applauded his courage" for doing so.

From left: Bobby Rush, Black Panther, in 1969; William Ayers the fugitive in 1970; Bernardine Dohrn's mug shot in 1969

16 posted on 01/06/2013 7:59:04 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: wildbill

Congress Fires First Shot : H.R. 45 Filed on First Day

WAR ON YOU:

Representative Bobby Rush (D-IL) filed a comprehensive anti-gun wish-list bill in the 111th Congress on its first day in session. No sooner were the new members of Congress sworn in than Mr. Rush, a former Black Panther leader, file his bill which he calls the “Blair Holt’s Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009”. The bill has no cosponsors and was automatically referred to the House Judiciary Committee.

If passed, this bill would require that anyone wishing to purchase, own, or possess a “qualifying firearm” - that’s any handgun, and any long gun capable of accepting a detachable magazine - would have to be licensed by the state or the federal government in a licensing program managed by the Attorney General. To get a license you would have to prove you’re you, provide a passport-style photo, a thumbprint, and take a written exam which includes questions about firearms safety, safe storage, the risks of firearms ownership, and anything else the Attorney General deems appropriate. All transfers would be required to go through a licensed dealer with the exception of occasional gifts or bequests between parents, children (18 or over), and grandparents, or loans of not more than 30 days between “persons who are personally known to one another.” (It actually says that. I’m not making this up.) And all transfers would have to be recorded in a “Transfer Record” established and maintained by the Attorney General.
The bill also makes it a crime for a dealer to have shoddy records or fail to appropriately cooperate with any inspectors. It makes failure to report the loss or theft of a firearm within 72 hours a felony punishable by up to 2 years in prison. Failure to keep a firearm locked up in such a way as to keep it inaccessible to anyone under 18 becomes a federal felony too....

http://waronyou.com/forums/index.php?topic=5654.0;wap2


17 posted on 01/06/2013 8:03:58 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: wildbill

The Long Run
In 2000, a Streetwise Veteran Schooled a Bold Young Obama

By JANNY SCOTT
Published: September 9, 2007

Correction Appended

The rise of Barack Obama includes one glaring episode of political miscalculation. Even friends told Mr. Obama it was a bad idea when he decided in 1999 to challenge an incumbent congressman and former Black Panther, Bobby L. Rush, whose stronghold on the South Side of Chicago was overwhelmingly black, Democratic and working class.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/09/us/politics/09obama.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0


18 posted on 01/06/2013 8:06:12 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Red in Blue PA

Thread on Felon Bobby Rush four years ago:

Convicted Felon Bobby Rush Proposes Sweeping Gun Control
IsraPundit ^ | 3/23/09 | Bill Levinson

Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 12:10:12 PM by Winged Hussar

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2212748/posts


19 posted on 01/06/2013 8:09:26 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Red in Blue PA

Another Chicago politician recently followed the tradition set by Bobby Rush:

Anti-Second Amendment Democrat Arrested With Gun at Chicago’s O’Hare

Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
December 6, 2012

http://www.infowars.com/anti-second-amendment-democrat-arrested-with-gun-at-chicagos-ohare/print/


20 posted on 01/06/2013 8:12:21 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Red in Blue PA

I taught writing at the college level for years. One of the prevalent problems is the assumption by the author that everyone (in your case, gun owners)knows the details of the argument. (who Bobby Rush is and his sins.)

I’ve been a gun owner since 1948 and never heard of him, but that doesn’t prove anything either.

Next, even if it were true, you posted to a general audience of conservatives, presumably to tell them something they DON’T already know and then to move them to some action by your points of argument. It’s called persuasion.

I’ve had to pry some info out of you in these posts and still get a response that I should do it myself via Google.

Instead I’ll simply go on to another post.

Thank you for your time, and responses however, to my efforts to help.


21 posted on 01/06/2013 8:14:05 AM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: Venturer; wildbill; Red in Blue PA

Many thanks for the info, Venturer - I’m sure wildbill appreciates it too.

RBPA - your link to Thomas had nothing pertinent to this thread other than the submitter’s name. Others should not have to provide the basics to the story-line.


22 posted on 01/06/2013 8:21:50 AM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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23 posted on 01/06/2013 8:23:41 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Here is their interpretation of the right of the congress to pass this unconstitutional law.

[Congressional Record Volume 159, Number 1 (Thursday, January 3, 2013)]
[House]
[Page H34]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Printing Office [www.gpo.gov]

By Mr. RUSH:
H.R. 34.
Congress has the power to enact this legislation pursuant
to the following:
Article I, Section 8, Clause 3
``The Congress shall have Power ``to regulate Commerce with
foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the
Indian Tribes.’’


The power designated to congress by this clause DOES NOT allow them to violate other portions of the constitution. If anyone does not believe this then our Federal government CAN do ANYTHING as long as they can show they are regulating something which might cross a state line.

VERY DANGEROUS stuff and being ignored thanks to the number one criminals in the USA, lawyers especially lawyers who become politicians and or judges.


24 posted on 01/06/2013 8:59:06 AM PST by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Hitler released the his friends in the prisons to help him. Obama already had them our in the streets.


25 posted on 01/06/2013 9:04:06 AM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: wildbill

H.R.34
Latest Title: To provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers of certain firearms and for a record of sale system for those firearms, and for other purposes.

Sponsor: Rep Rush, Bobby L. [IL-1] (introduced 1/3/2013) Cosponsors (None)

You only had to go to the link to get the above info - HE IS THE SPONSOR of the bill! Pretty painless unless you’re more interested in bitching!


26 posted on 01/06/2013 9:21:59 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: cripplecreek

What you said.

Folks here don’t realize that is a new law only since 1968


27 posted on 01/06/2013 9:24:15 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: wildbill; Red in Blue PA

I thought it was just me who thought this thread is an epic fail.


28 posted on 01/06/2013 9:32:02 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: umgud

“”We need to redefine who is a prohibited person.””

AMEN! Mark Fuhrman is one who is or was prohibited from possessing a weapon of any kind. I don’t know if he ever got that set aside... Totally ridiculous for merely answering a question some thought untruthfully that had nothing to do with the prosecution or evidence in the OJ case. The Attorney General of CA (Dan Lundgren at the time)charged him with perjury and he couldn’t afford to fight the charge so he pleaded no contest. The man was a hunter, owned weapons and had a large knife collection. He had to get rid of everything!


29 posted on 01/06/2013 9:32:26 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: umgud

“”We need to redefine who is a prohibited person.””

AMEN! Mark Fuhrman is one who is or was prohibited from possessing a weapon of any kind. I don’t know if he ever got that set aside... Totally ridiculous for merely answering a question some thought untruthfully that had nothing to do with the prosecution or evidence in the OJ case. The Attorney General of CA (Dan Lundgren at the time)charged him with perjury (a felony) and he couldn’t afford to fight the charge so he pleaded no contest. The man was a hunter, owned weapons and had a large knife collection. He had to get rid of everything!


30 posted on 01/06/2013 9:34:02 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Thank You Rush

WHOOPS!!!!!


31 posted on 01/06/2013 9:36:41 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: wardaddy

We were handing guns back over to released prison inmates at the gate into the early 1900s.

The big difference is that back then, most of the truly dangerous were exterminated before they ever got to prison. If they survived long enough to go to prison they were either executed or stayed there forever.


32 posted on 01/06/2013 11:07:14 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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