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Does NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) keep two separate sets of climate books ...
Watts Up With That? ^ | January 6, 2013 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 01/06/2013 6:38:18 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Glaring inconsistencies found between State of the Climate (SOTC) reports sent to the press and public and the “official” climate database record for the United States.

First, I should point out that I didn’t go looking for this problem, it was a serendipitous discovery that came from me looking up the month-to-month average temperature for the Continental United States (CONUS) for another project which you’ll see a report on in a  couple of days. What started as an oddity noted for a single month now seems clearly to be systemic over a two-year period. On the eve of what will likely be a pronouncement from NCDC on 2012 being the “hottest year ever”, and since what I found is systemic and very influential to the press and to the public, I thought I should make my findings widely known now. Everything I’ve found should be replicable independently using the links and examples I provide. I’m writing the article as a timeline of discovery.

At issue is the difference between temperature data claims in the NCDC State of the Climate reports issued monthly and at year-end and the official NCDC climate database made available to the public. Please read on for my full investigation.

You can see the most current SOTC for the USA here:

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/national/2012/11

In that SOTC report they state right at the top:

SOTC_Nov2012

Highlighted in yellow is the CONUS average temperature, which is the data I was after. I simply worked backwards each month to get the CONUS Tavg value and copy/paste it into a spreadsheet.

In early 2011 and late 2010, I started to encounter problems.

(Excerpt) Read more at wattsupwiththat.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: climatechange; climategate; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax

1 posted on 01/06/2013 6:38:27 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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I am going to get the image here....for understanding ....go to WUWT ....(see the link to the excerpted article;

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2 posted on 01/06/2013 6:42:01 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; Fred Nerks; Carry_Okie; blam; Lorianne; Twotone; bigbob; NormsRevenge; ...

fyi


3 posted on 01/06/2013 6:47:48 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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There is an explanation,....

The SOTC is released with incomplete data....

4 posted on 01/06/2013 7:13:37 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The SOTC is released with incomplete data....

Given that even past records (such as for July 1936) do not comport, I think the problem goes farther than that.

5 posted on 01/06/2013 7:36:56 PM PST by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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As he says:

While I’d like to think “never attribute to malice what can be explained by simple incompetence“, surely they know about this, and the fact that they never go back and correct SOTC claims (which drive all the news stories) suggests some possible malfeasance.

We know that James Hanson's man-made global warming followers are scattered throughout NOAA and push the global warming scenario every chance they get. They ignore the past few years of record cold in Europe and further east in Russia. The US has been lucky not to have suffered the same way. However, at some time in the future we can expect the cold global circulation shifting to the western hemisphere and we will wish for real global warming.

6 posted on 01/06/2013 8:02:27 PM PST by CedarDave (Matt Damon is to natural gas fracking as Jane Fonda is to nuclear power generation.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I read their short and long term forecasts regularly. With a curious regularity, there is always above-normal temperatures across most of the USA. Even now as my region has an average climate for the past several weeks, their forecast was for a heat wave.


7 posted on 01/06/2013 8:16:38 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
And no one is ever held accountable. The money keeps flowing into their programs. Few in both sides of Congress take anything seriously. Few, in Congress, are even aware of the gross "bad science", if your willing to label it that way, takes place within these agencies within the Federal Government, that are forced through ideology by those that govern them, to not do good science and engineering, but are forced through power plays to produce dishonest information.

Sorry for a poor way perhaps of describing the whole mess, but my heart is in the right place. I'm sure of that.

Meanwhile. We are witnessing a terribly cold winter taking place in Europe and Asia. The folks in some parts of China freezing up, how many have to date alone in Russia died from the cold. After a short warming in parts of the USA next week, we shall see most likely brutal cold temps return across most of the USA.

And yet. These clowns can issue bull shit, and get away with it.

8 posted on 01/06/2013 8:24:34 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bump...


9 posted on 01/06/2013 8:50:34 PM PST by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: Marine_Uncle; tubebender; crusty old prospector; CedarDave; Carry_Okie
Pravada is reporting on the mess....FR Thread:

PRAVDA: Global Warming, Tool of the West

10 posted on 01/06/2013 10:13:16 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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Time to sign off here.

Nite all!

11 posted on 01/06/2013 10:16:43 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Posting both sides of an issue is just CYA.
Rather than be 100% WRONG it is always to cover both possibilities that way you can always (CYA) and be at least 50% right and then only report the predition that makes you look like you were 100% correct - hoping that nobody reports the fact (post fact-o) that you actually also predicted just the opposite.

That is a typical (Liberal/Communist/Fascist) (etc) propaganda ploy.


12 posted on 01/08/2013 3:12:54 PM PST by jongaltsr
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