Skip to comments.BCS title game a clash of cultures
Posted on 01/07/2013 7:56:30 AM PST by BO Stinkss
I never had any problems in the short time I lived in the Deep South. My co-workers in Savannah, Ga., told me at times that I was nice for a Yankee, which is to say that thanks to Southern hospitality, I was very politely well-tolerated. Still, there were times I felt as if I needed a passport. I also had never seen an entire aisle at the grocery store dedicated to grits, the way they had it at the Piggly Wiggly. And while that life was a while ago, it was enough to give a sense of some of the bigger things at play Monday night in the Notre Dame-Alabama national championship game. This is a rivalry of the two greatest college football histories. But its also especially to the people of the South, I suspect between two symbols. This will be part football game, part culture conflict. It will be as if the line of scrimmage is the Mason-Dixon Line. Alabama football is a way of life. And it also is the seat of football in the South. Its a cultural icon. Notre Dame is the nations team. Or, at least, the unions. Those lines still mean something in the South. Strangely, there are still some hurt feelings about the Civil War, which, as I was politely informed while living there, is never to be called that, but instead the War Between the States, the War For Southern Independence or the War of Northern Aggression. Kirk McNair, who has written two books on Alabama football, including What It Means To Be Crimson Tide, is in Florida, where hell see his 34th consecutive Alabama bowl game.
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No grits aisle in Mississippi
Saw on ESPN last night, a presentation on very devoted AL football fans overjoyed that their team is in the BCS title game again.
Some of the nicest, most polite people I’ve ever met were in Savannah, GA.
I wish there was a “grits aisle.” There is only one grocery store I have found in the greater Nashville area that has real (slow cook) grits available. Maybe Nashville no longer qualifies as The South.
Saw videos, including one of a father wearing a copy of the famous hat worn by the legendary coach Bear Byrant, finding out that his Christmas gift was a ticket to the BCS Bowl game.
It was inside his hat.
The so-called civil war as we were taught in school was about doing right, but the reality was it was a war the central government waged on We The People. It was nothing short of Democide led by lincoln, the worst president in US history.
“Some of my best friends are Northerners.”
I’ll say it is. NBC Sports’ high dollar product vs ESPN’s high dollar product.
The only problem I have with this game is that I can’t root for a tie.
Hope you guys enjoy it, but I don’t like either one of them.
Well bless your heart.
And he missed the importance of 1966. It wasn't just that Alabama, as the only undefeated/untied team was passed over. It was that the 1966 title would have meant three in a row for Alabama.
For my entire life, I have cheered for my home state Wisconsin (and/or Marquette) AND whoever plays Notre Dame.
Over the last few years on football weekends I have started to also cheer for whoever plays against an SEC team AND - when SEC plays SEC - against whichever SEC team is ranked higher.
Which is America's team? This year's match-up for me is more like the Iraq-Iran War. I want them both to lose!
Here's my tipping point for tonight -
1) ESPN is the nation's #1 sports news outlet.
2) I hate ESPN and their liberal ownership and staff.
3) The SEC (and SEC-member school Alabama) is affiliated with ESPN and more often hyped by ESPN personalities.
4) Notre Dame is affilated ESPN competitor NBC Sports.
5) I am less likely to hear ESPN bleating about a Notre Dame championship than a Crimson Tide championship.
6) As a result, I'm left to cheer for the 'Domers.
Go Irish!!! (I guess)
“The inferiority complex is still there in the South, where people think Northerners look down on them”
Surely he jests...Southerners think Northerners look down upon them? What would give him that idea? The irony is rich with this one.
But trust me, that attitude is met with a chuckle, and certainly not an ‘inferiority complex’. Exhibit A would be the exodus of people from Northern hell holes, and the population boom in the South. The South is a great place to live, and the people know it.
I was at the barber shop Saturday and the 20 something girl cutting my hair was curious why all of her Alabama fan customers had such hard feelings for Notre Dame. I explained this piece of ancient history to her.
No dentist south of the Mason-Dixon Line can find work. /s
The “sweet irony” of it all is that, the best well-known Catholic cable channel broadcasts from where else, ALABAMA.
BTTT - This thread may yet become interesting...
I lived a good part of my life as a ‘yankee’ in Arkansas, Mississippi and Alabama. I’ve never seen a grits aisle...even in Piggly Wiggly.
I’m Catholic, and I say, “Roll Tide!” I hope they win by 50.
Tide wants revenge...looking for payback against Johnny Football. If the Aggies win...they are in a good position for the national championship..
Aggies gonna BTHO Tide..
It will be interesting to see how A&M rebuilds their offensive line...they are losing some guys that are going to be tough to replace.
Go ‘Bama! I’m an Aggie who was skeptical of our move to the SEC. Well, I’m glad we did. We fit in with the other schools. We our proud of our Southern heritage.
I’m in Alabama and over 50 years old and have never seen a grocery isle dedicated to grits. So there goes his credibility
Seems to me somebody has watched "My Cousin Vinny" one too many times.
Oh, for God’s sake, just play the darn game already. This sort of meaningless pap, intended to fill column space, makes me wish both teams lose.
Wish there was a way they both could lose. go ducks
I live in Bama although am a transplant from Georgia. Have lived all over the country (but my home will always be Georgia in my heart)
I’m a Crimson Tide fan, a Georgia Bulldog fan, Georgia Tech fan and a Johnny Football fan. Love that guy.
If somebody’s all that worried about variety of grits, they’ll just go to the mill that ground them. Fine, medium, coarse, yellow, white, you name it, and ground fresh right there, from local farmers. We always bought Cherokee brand from the local mill when I was a kid. Getting harder to do now.
FYI..John Hoover is a sport columnist for the Tulsa World..a good writer..here's a GREAT quote from a recent column after the Cotton Bowl:
"Texas A&M last year left the Big 12 for the SEC, and took the state of Texas with it." Really sums it up rather nicely, dontcha think?
BTW our Gators have some awesome recruits coming in..supposedly the # 1 or #2 class in the whole country. Still can't figure out what happened in the Sugar Bowl..I worry about the coming season..not sure if we have a QB..Coach Boom has been really quiet since the loss...maybe he ran himself into a wall...
That is extremely amusing to anyone who has actually been to south bend. I think that is the first (and only) place I ever saw a sign depicting a car being towed with the caption “Solicit a prostitute, Lose your car.”
What a bunch of hooey! I loathe this type of ignorant yankee snob.
Notre Dame football graduates 97% of it's players.
Alabama football graduates 72%.
Just something else here for folks to fight about. ;~))
Northern Snobbery PING! ROLL TIDE!
This game should be between Bama and Oregon.
The co-eds at Alabama are much better looking than the ND women.
1. The madness of college athletic team loyalty is widespread across the nation, especially football and basketball.
2. The worst=loudest/most obnoxious fans (and this especially applies to ND and UA) are those who never attended the school or had family who attended the school.
3. It boils down to the basic psychology of people wanting to associate with/be identified as a winner, especially if their own lives have not worked out so well.
4. Sports marketing at every level has refined the old Roman principle of "bread and circuses" to district the great unwashed masses from their problems.
5. Much is made about Roman Catholic allegiance to ND. The UA football coach, Nick Saban, is a devout Roman Catholic.
6. The majority of elite college football teams are comprised of >70% black athletes while black male enrollments at these schools are generally <4%.
7. The football programs at AU, UGA, UF, FSU, and others are plagued with bad behavior by thug athletes.
8. Major academic scandals involving black athletes continue to be revealed, e.g., UNC-Chapel Hill.
I learned at an early age in life to become an "ABB" = "anybody but (the University of Ala-)fan principally because of the bad behavior I observed exhibited by UA fans. I look at how the Roman Catholic administration at ND has embraced BHO and homosexual rights. Net result - I don't have a dog in this BCS fight. If the game were to be played on SAT, and UA lost, church attendence across the state of AL the next morning would be very skimpy.
Most of the time, I’ll take a Northern school over a Western one, a Southern school over a Northern one, a Texas school over a Southern one ... and anybody over LSU, OU or USC.
For today, Roll Tide. Otherwise, Hook ‘em.
“Notre Dame football graduates 97% of it’s players.
Alabama football graduates 72%.”
That’s excellant for both schools. But when you compare to overall graduation rates:
Uof A 65%
So compared to the school average Alabama is +7 for FB players while ND is -7.
Amen to that!
And where do many of Alabama’s star players come from, Alabama?
“Some of the nicest, most polite people Ive ever met were in Savannah, GA.”
Why Yes, Yes we are!
LOL. You are a trouble maker. ;~))