Robert Griffin III's lies, Mike Shanahan's poor management doom Redskins in playoffs

yahoo sports ^ | Dan Wetzel

[Nifster]

That’s not an indicator...he coorded for Seifert and walked into a Denver team that any west coast offense style coach would have won with.

My comment stands. Doesn’t matter what you think. My guess is you have ‘led’ as many teams to the Super Bowl as I have. I don’t need to have done it to know what I see

[MinorityRepublican]

I don’t blame RG3. He’s a baller. The buck stops with the head coach.

[Alaska Wolf]

That’s not an indicator.

" Along with Vince Lombardi, Don Shula, Chuck Noll, Jimmy Johnson and Belichick, Shanahan is one of six coaches with back-to-back Super Bowl championships."

Pretty good company for a coach that is "dumb". LOL!

Doesn’t matter what you think.

You're at least correct about that. The proof is in Shanahan's record as a coach.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/coaches?coaType=head&team=WAS

[Alaska Wolf]

I leave this argumentative poster to you,

Sorry if I made you cry. Can I get you a tissue?

[jpl]

Griffin is an incredible natural athletic talent, but he needs to be taught how to play like a real NFL quarterback, otherwise he's not going to have a long and productive career in this league.

And the Shanahans deserve to be fired for putting the next ten years of the organizations' future in serious jeopardy for a tiny shot at a run that was never going to end in a championship this year anyway. Coaches are selfish by nature, but their selfishness is above and beyond the pale.

[onyx]

You likely need to put down the bottle, (your baby bottle).

ALL the former coaches and ESPN guys do not disagree with me. ESPN’s Dan Graziano also had harsh words for Mike Shanahan, noting that the Redskins coach was already taking heat for playing Robert Griffin III against the advice of team doctor James Andrews. Graziano wrote:

“The problems (plural) begin with the fact it wasn’t true. Griffin was injured. He entered the game injured, still wearing a brace to protect against further injury from the ligament sprain he suffered four weeks earlier in Baltimore. Sunday morning, a USA Today story quoted Redskins team physician James Andrews saying he was ‘a nervous wreck’ letting Griffin play so soon after the injury. When Griffin clearly aggravated the injury on a first-and-goal pass attempt in the first quarter Sunday, alarm bells should have been going off, and Griffin’s bravado should not have been enough to silence them. Not for the coach who traded three first-round picks and a second-round pick to get him and who’s charged with the care and maintenance of his long-term health.”

Gee, that guy from ESPN sounds almost like me.








How's it going for ya?

[Alaska Wolf]

. ESPN’s Dan Graziano

LOL! What NFL team did Dan play for or coach? Reading comprehension isn't your forte, either.

"Dan Graziano. An avid baseball fan but a mediocre player, Dan Graziano didn't play sports in college -- he wrote about them instead." Dan's an ESPN blogger!

[onyx]

Your credentials?

[Alaska Wolf]

Your credentials?

Pay attention. My ability to read, research, comprehend and post facts. You should try it.

LOL! What NFL team did Dan play for or coach? Reading comprehension isn't your forte, either.

"Dan Graziano. An avid baseball fan but a mediocre player, Dan Graziano didn't play sports in college -- he wrote about them instead." Dan's an ESPN blogger!

[onyx]

My comprehension of the game exceeds yours by 100 football fields and I am a woman. You’re a joke.

[Alaska Wolf]

My comprehension of the game exceeds yours by 100 football fields

LOLAY and your blogger, Dummy Dan. Do you share the same bottle?

[pgkdan]

Nah...I’m finished...it was a waste of time.

[onyx]

Wise choice.. I came back for a little more, but only because I couldn’t believe the pig-headed idiocy. I am now a believer..

[KevinDavis]

I agree.. I thought Texas was going to make it, but they lose the mojo... In today’s NFL, the team that is peaking in November and December tends to make it to the Super Bowl. Teams that struggle in November and December tends to choke..

[mmichaels1970]

Boomer Esiason
@7BOOMERESIASON

I feel awful for RGIII. He shouldn't have been out there

Lots of questions coming for Mike Shanahan and Dr. Andrews after watching this. Boy are they going to be raked over. #playingwithfire

Keith Hernandez ‏@Kah919
@7BOOMERESIASON RG3 is a grown man. He's not a Pop Warner kid. All coach and doctor can do is give RG3 their opinion and let him decide.

6 Jan Boomer Esiason ‏@7BOOMERESIASON
@Kah919 tell that to the over 3000 ex players suing the NFL. Coaches have to protect players from themselves.

Boomer Esiason ‏@7BOOMERESIASON RGIII Shouldn't be playing. Aikman is right on.

Derrick Ward ‏@DerrickWard32
Mike Shanahan should be fired for letting RG3 play today. Bottom line. You risk tearing his knee up to try to win and u see he isn't mobile

Not every coach or player is in agreement here. In my opinion, the first instinct is for many to circle the wagons around one of their own. But Shanahan is in deep after this.

This completely blows away the small controversy we had in Cleveland when Colt McCoy was reentered after a concussion.

[Alaska Wolf]

Not every coach or player is in agreement here.

All of those on FOX and ESPN are in agreement as I stated. I also heard Mark Schlereth on ESPN this morning say the same thing. Playing through injuries in the NFL is part of the culture. You and I may not like it, but players have been doing it for decades. When and if a player doesn't, he can lose his job, like the most obvious, Alex Smith, of the 49s this season.

[Alaska Wolf]

pig-headed idiocy

You should get counseling for that problem.

[mmichaels1970]

Playing through injuries in the NFL is part of the culture.

It sure is. But when your franchise QB who has already had an ACL reconstruction, starts hobbling on the knee, you take no chances.

An ACL revision has a several-month longer rehab period than the first reconstruction. A fast rehab on a revision is about 9 months for the most aggressive/optimistic. A revision may also require the surgeon to disconnect the original ACL, bone graft the holes in the bone (where the reconstructed ACL was threaded), wait 3 months for the bone graft to heal, and then perform the revision. Rehab doesn't even really start for those three months.

A revision surgery also has decreased odds of long-term success.

Whether RGIII has actually torn his ACL or not this time is irrelevant. Once a previous ACL reconstruction patient starts hobbling around on the same knee, he should be taken out...period. Doesn't matter what he says.

It was the wrong call to make. And if a doctor actually cleared him during the game, he should be ashamed of himself.

The Skins have now risked four high draft picks and a franchise QB because RGIII said he was "fine". He may never be the same player again. I can only pray that his injury is minor and hope he makes a speedy recovery. He seems like a good guy.

[Alaska Wolf]

when your franchise QB who has already had an ACL reconstruction,

Then as former NFL players have asked, "Why weren't you complaining when Griffin was playing against Dallas?"

He may never be the same player again.

Griffin isn't stupid. He knows the risks of playing football. He already has screws and rubber bands holding him together. He also saw what Adrian Peterson accomplished this season.

[mmichaels1970]

Then as former NFL players have asked, "Why weren't you complaining when Griffin was playing against Dallas?"

I didn't watch that game. If the condition of his knee was visibly worsened during the Dallas game, I would certainly still be "complaining". I didn't see it, so I have no idea.

I also think that entering a game with a suspect knee is more excusable than continuing a game when the condition is so obviously worsened. I'd guess that at least before Dallas he had time to get the right medical procedures and tests done to determine that he could indeed attempt to play. The decision wasn't made after dragging him into some small wooden shed and injecting him with heaven knows what.

Did his knee look like it worsened during the Dallas game? Honestly, I didn't see it.

Griffin isn't stupid. He knows the risks of playing football. He already has screws and rubber bands holding him together.

As a former NFL Player has also said:

“Here’s a guy that was out there, trying to do his best for his teammates,” Gannon continued. “I think at some point, somebody’s got to step in. It’s like stopping a fight in the 15th round or something, when the guy’s been knocked around too much and he can’t defend himself. I mean, that was the situation to me when I looked at Robert Griffin III.”

So it can be equated to throwing in the towel for a boxer, or the TKO. Specifically put in place to prevent these "warriors" from getting killed due to their determination.

He also saw what Adrian Peterson accomplished this season.

And Peterson was coming off of his first ACL reconstruction. Griffin has already been there and done that. The rehab period and odds of success get increasingly worse with every reinjury.

I promise you, if Peterson were to hobble back to the huddle limping on his previously injured knee, I would stand by the argument that he should be pulled.