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New York City to Restrict Prescription Painkillers in Public Hospitalsí Emergency Rooms
The New Your Times ^ | 2/10/13 | Anemia Heartcolic

Posted on 01/11/2013 8:42:31 AM PST by dangerdoc

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1 posted on 01/11/2013 8:42:37 AM PST by dangerdoc
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To: dangerdoc

“Under the new city policy, most public hospital patients
will no longer be able to get more than three days’ worth
of narcotic painkillers like Vicodin and Percocet.
Long-acting painkillers, including OxyContin, a familiar
remedy for chronic backache and arthritis, as well as
Fentanyl patches and methadone, will not be dispensed at
all. And lost, stolen or destroyed prescriptions will not
be refilled.”


2 posted on 01/11/2013 8:46:24 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Diogenesis

Thank you, I didn’t want to step on any toes.


3 posted on 01/11/2013 8:47:34 AM PST by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: dangerdoc; Diogenesis

Sounds like you Fur Shur don’t want to get shot in New York City!


4 posted on 01/11/2013 8:51:29 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Bloomberg said people will have to suffer a little.


5 posted on 01/11/2013 8:54:40 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: muawiyah

You won’t have to worry about about your 16 ounce soda not being big enough to wash down your pain pills.


6 posted on 01/11/2013 8:58:00 AM PST by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: dangerdoc

Bloomberg is a tyrant. He latched on to the Republican popularity due to Giuliani to get elected. Then he convinced the idiot city council to remove the term limit so he could run for a third term. Then stopped being a Republican (though he never was one anyway) to become an “independent”.

He’s out of office next January. Can’t come soon enough, and I don’t even live in NY.


7 posted on 01/11/2013 8:58:13 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: dangerdoc

The natives have been streaming in for 0bamacare, as if that is their job.


8 posted on 01/11/2013 8:59:06 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: dangerdoc; Admin Moderator

duplicate of http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2977009/posts


9 posted on 01/11/2013 9:00:38 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: dangerdoc

It boggles the mind that hospitals have just rolled over for this lunatic mayor.


10 posted on 01/11/2013 9:01:41 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: dangerdoc
In place of pain killers a small wooden stick will be provided to clench between ones teeth and in severe cases a set of straps to hold the patient’s arms down.

Unlike pain killers, no danger of addiction is present for these items.

11 posted on 01/11/2013 9:03:16 AM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: dangerdoc
I was on Hydrocodone for well more than 3 years. I have no addiction type of reaction not being on it anymore. (Couldn't get it for the last two years)

I never abused it, just used it for pain management. I wish I could get it again, but the gubbimint makes it very hard or impossible.

I guess the MD's and government group people in very real pain together with pleasure seeking addicts. Too bad for me.

FMCDH(BITS)

12 posted on 01/11/2013 9:04:20 AM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: massgopguy
Bloomberg is undoubtedly looking forward to that part. Expect to see some shots of him visiting emergency rooms on Friday and Saturday evening in coming weeks.

Jus' checking out the pain!

13 posted on 01/11/2013 9:09:44 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: dangerdoc

Last year in Germany where there is Obamacare, I was supposed to have surgery at the hospital. When I checked-in they collected four of us in a room and then said we had to come back another day because of emergencies and missing staff. Right away the Turkish woman claimed “acute pain” and was allowed to stay. Some people know how to work the system. In New York I bet a lot of people are learning how to work the system.


14 posted on 01/11/2013 9:10:23 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: nothingnew

The only people who get it are those who are addicted and pay for it on the street or pay a DR. for a bogus visit and get a prescription.


15 posted on 01/11/2013 9:13:40 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: massgopguy

“Bloomberg said people will have to suffer a little.”

“Here is my problem with legislative medicine,” said Dr. Alex Rosenau, president-elect of the American College of Emergency Physicians and senior vice chairman of emergency medicine at Lehigh Valley Health Network in Eastern Pennsylvania. “It prevents me from being a professional and using my judgment.”

I will have to disagree with Dr. Rosenau: I believe that this is a very reasonable policy.

It prevents an E.R. from dispensing more than 3 days of narcotic analgesics. It does not prevent an E.R. doctor from giving a patient a prescription for a larger supply of such a medicine, and then having the Rx filled at an outside pharmacy.

In view of the fact that most of our E.R. patients have enough money to buy liquor, smoke cigarettes, get expensive manicures, or purchase the latest designer jeans or sneakers, there is little risk of these patients will suffer for lack of medicine.

I will reluctantly agree with Mayor Yenta Bloomberg on this one.


16 posted on 01/11/2013 9:14:47 AM PST by paterfamilias
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To: massgopguy

“Bloomberg said people will have to suffer a little.”

“Here is my problem with legislative medicine,” said Dr. Alex Rosenau, president-elect of the American College of Emergency Physicians and senior vice chairman of emergency medicine at Lehigh Valley Health Network in Eastern Pennsylvania. “It prevents me from being a professional and using my judgment.”

I will have to disagree with Dr. Rosenau: I believe that this is a very reasonable policy.

It prevents an E.R. from dispensing more than 3 days of narcotic analgesics. It does not prevent an E.R. doctor from giving a patient a prescription for a larger supply of such a medicine, and then having the Rx filled at an outside pharmacy.

In view of the fact that most of our E.R. patients have enough money to buy liquor, smoke cigarettes, get expensive manicures, or purchase the latest designer jeans or sneakers, there is little risk that these patients will suffer for lack of medicine.

I will reluctantly agree with Mayor Yenta Bloomberg on this one.


17 posted on 01/11/2013 9:15:05 AM PST by paterfamilias
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To: dangerdoc

Nanny knows best!!!

I’m amazed how people just bow down to Bloomberg. He says “jump” and they say “how high.”


18 posted on 01/11/2013 9:18:09 AM PST by ScottinVA (More dizzying than a Tilt-a-Whirl is an around-a-circle argument with a liberal about gun control.)
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To: nothingnew

I have psoriatic arthritis and could not get through the day with etoldalac and vicoden. I am speechless that the city can just dictate this to the medical community without a thought to what patients need.


19 posted on 01/11/2013 9:18:36 AM PST by CityCenter (Compromise is the welcome mat to deception.)
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To: cotton1706

Honest to Pete, there is only one guy who scares me more than Obama when I think about him being POTUS, and it’s Michael Bloomberg. This guy must lay awake all night every night thinking about new ways to micromanage everyone else’s life. He seriously needs professional help.


20 posted on 01/11/2013 9:24:20 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: dangerdoc

Sounds like Bloomberg is practicing medicine without a license.


21 posted on 01/11/2013 9:29:33 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Children, pets, and slaves get taken care of. Free Men take care of themselves.)
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To: dangerdoc

He said on NY radio this morning that ‘some people will suffer’ by not having the necessary pain killers but that somebody always loses in these greater good deals. He actually acknowledged that the poor would suffer most.


22 posted on 01/11/2013 9:35:17 AM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: svcw
This policy only applies to the eleven public hospitals in the city.

It will drive patients with pain to the private hospitals. If the patients cannot afford to pay, the private hospitals will have to provide emergency services anyway - that is the law. This will transfer the costs from public (taxpayer funded) hospitals to private (for profit) ones. The only way the private hospitals will be able to compete will be for them to adopt a similar policy.

23 posted on 01/11/2013 9:46:55 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: dangerdoc

While he is a rabid liberal and a tinhorn tyrant, in the case of emergency rooms and disbursement of prescription medicine classified under the Controlled Substances Act, I actually don’t have a problem with only a 3-day supply. It should only be enough to give a patient time to see a regular doctor to whom the patient has been referred.

If the patient does not have the assets or means for a private referral, the prescription should be long enough for the patient to work within the local government health system to locate a more long-term doctor-patient relationship that can fall within public healthcare means.

There was a guy recently on Dr. Phil who told of how he was hooked on Oxycodone and Oxycontin, etc. He shopped every emergency room he could, faking ailments, and lying his ass off. Anything to get the drugs. Last February I broke my foot badly. Extreme throbbing pain. They gave me ONE pill! Told me it was broken and gave me a referral to an orthopedic surgeon along with a prescription for 10 pills.

While I was in the emergency room, I witnessed two, what I’d call druggies, talking to the nurses and doctors in the treatment area about all the trouble they have and pain and needed pain killers....drugs, drugs and more drugs. Neither had any insurance at all.


24 posted on 01/11/2013 9:57:50 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: dangerdoc
As the old saying goes. Elections have consequences. NY’ers are idiots to keep electing this control freak. I think he needs to be hospitalized himself.
25 posted on 01/11/2013 10:11:37 AM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: dangerdoc

All should note....especially those PhonyCons who think that “GOP always means ‘Conservative’”.....that Bloomberg initially was a Republican....and was even worshiped by some in the GOP Media.

I would get the hell out of NYC if I was any sort of conservative.


26 posted on 01/11/2013 10:13:56 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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To: dangerdoc

I hope the bloomin’ idiot gets kidney stones for a month and can’t supress the pain!


27 posted on 01/11/2013 10:18:54 AM PST by meyer (Proud member of the 53%.)
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To: Diogenesis

NYC. The Dry-Nurse State.


28 posted on 01/11/2013 10:26:16 AM PST by AdaGray (squi)
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To: nothingnew
I got whole pill container upstairs with Hydros'.....but I use them very rarely...... my back was killing me to tears a few years ago, believe me,they can dull the pain and are very addictive....

naprosyn actually works better in the long run for me....

however, a public govt agency has no business telling drs who to prescribe to and how much to prescribe....its bs.....

29 posted on 01/11/2013 10:28:13 AM PST by cherry
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To: dangerdoc

I actually agree with Bloomberg on this one - too many pill addicts use the emergency rooms for their prescriptions, 3 days supply unril you get to a doctor is more than enough time.
There are a lot of pill addicts around and this will save taxpayers money.


30 posted on 01/11/2013 10:29:50 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
fewer meds prescribed will mean more visits and admissions to hospitals so these people can be treated for pain, and its a mandate to hospitals to relieve pain....

so the hospitals will be full and not available for use....

will we see more robberies of pharmacies?..probably.....more use of street drugs?..probably....

31 posted on 01/11/2013 10:30:32 AM PST by cherry
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To: PMAS
the drug seekers actually can claim "chest pain" and be admitted and put on a morphine drip although most of them like their dilaudid better, that and regular iv pushes of benadryl and phenergan to top it off...

they have it down to a science...

here in our area there is now a policy where frequent drug seekers get on a list available to all the hospitals and clinics....they can see how many times a patient has come in with pain issues....and treat accordingly....

32 posted on 01/11/2013 10:37:07 AM PST by cherry
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To: Diogenesis
And lost, stolen or destroyed prescriptions will not be refilled

Ask any pharmacist....I mean any pharmacist, anywhere, about the ridiculous BS that drug seekers can concoct when trying to wheedle a few pills from the person on the other side of the counter. "My dog ate all the percocets" is not too stupid a thing for these d-bags to say.

Bloomberg. Stopped clock principle. Right for this one time.

33 posted on 01/11/2013 1:34:12 PM PST by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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To: dangerdoc

You can sure bet old Lizardface Bloomberg will never suffer a minute. Perhaps we should outlaw curbside air conditioning.


34 posted on 01/11/2013 1:36:23 PM PST by dforest
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To: dangerdoc

Take a look what POS Blommberg does for his ownself!

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/hizzoner_cold_feat_lYxDIMuat7x4PL7nUbdBEM


35 posted on 01/11/2013 1:39:29 PM PST by dforest
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